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[–] 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.

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  • [–] 43 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Please add chess.com → lichess

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't lemmy the reddit of the fediverse?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Lemmy and Piefed are both Reddit alternatives. I'm not sure what all the pros and cons are of each, but Lemmy's developers are tankies so probably better to direct users and funding to a different project. I'm only on Lemmy because I wasn't aware of Piefed when I first joined.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Bookwyrm is cool, it just needs more attention and interaction. It would be cool if it could expand into other forms of media (games, movies) like NeoDB, which again feels like posting into the void.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a little behind on this, what does goodreads have to do with bezos?

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    In 2013 Goodreads was sold to Amazon 😭

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It's impressive how Goodreads has been owned by 10+ years by the company with the largest cloud infrastructure and supposedly great engineers, and still it loads like shitty personal blog from the 2000s. It's pretty obvious it was just bought so they could redirect traffic to Kindle store, just like IMDB redirects to Amazon Prime.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    As pointed out, Goodreads has been owned by Amazon for a good while. And they also own slices of some other similar book sites (LibraryThing, for example, and some other site that was merged into Goodreads).

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    There's also StoryGraph - it's not federated, but ran by a tiny UK company, but seems pretty popular. I like the content warnings feature and stuff like readers rating the pacing and moods of the books, which is then displayed with graphs on the book page, but they have also introduced some AI features :/ (fortunately opt-in)

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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    Since your Lemmy account is only 3 days old, I would recommend switching over to PieFed. It’s a much nicer experience and federates with all the same servers that Lemmy does, so you’re seeing the same posts but in a better way. You’re on lemmy.zip, and the same devs run piefed.zip.

    With a little curation of your community subscriptions, you can get a very similar experience to Reddit but better.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What do you prefer about piefed? Lemmy seems perfect to me.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago

    I like the interface more than the Lemmy interface, but it also has a number of cool features that Lemmy doesn't have. And the update schedule is crazy good. PieFed 1.5 has only been out about 3 weeks, and the dev just released 1.6 today with more features, updates, and fixes.

    Not to mention that there is some..... questionable.... behavior by the Lemmy devs. While the PieFed dev may not be perfect, he doesn't have the baggage the Lemmy devs do, and I feel better using the PieFed software. It all connects to the same stuff.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (35 children)

    What's the difference between Piefed and Lemmy?

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Piefed has quite a few features that Lemmy doesn't have:

    • multicommunities
    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
    • crossposts comments consolidation
    • communities moderation features
    • posts and user flairs
    • keyword filters

    https://join.piefed.social/features/

    Lemmy should get there in version 1.0, but they still don't have any precise timeframe for that release, and still need to do some testing https://lemmy.ml/comment/23570258

    You might see a few people discrediting Piefed for some optional filters it offers, but all of those filters are configurable by admins and disabled by default: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Piefed seens to have a lot of issues baked into the code

    https://lemmy.world/post/42299745

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Lol, why? I don't use Piefed and besides, I work on my own open source project.

    But seriously, why would I contribute to a project I don't use and have no association with?

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    How can I pick which piefed server doesn't have the social credit score enabled?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I recommend MULTIVERSE, the anarcho-antirealist PieFed server. We have a karma system the same as Reddit, which you're used to, and we don't do any extra processing of the score. Some PieFed sites ignore karma earned on meme communities to prevent repost farming, but on MULTIVERSE, we just look at upvotes - downvotes, and unlike Reddit, your karma score means absolutely nothing for your ability to post on communities.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Piefed provides sections or slices of the fediverse and often is incorporated with mastodon, whereas Lemmy is a much bigger aspect of the overall fediverse. While everyone is entitled to their option how they approach certain topics, Lemmy's devs have a huge impact on federation protocols, moderation norms, and general user experience across the fediverse!

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (10 children)
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    wait are you sure? there was a lemmy admin talking about how the software is authoritarian and has a "social credit score" that sounds like what a tankie would put in

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  • [+] 12 points 9 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I wonder if they mean the genocide-denying lemmy admin or the transphobic lemmy admin. It's easy to mix those two guys up

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Oh boy oh boy, I think I'm about to receive a fun link with more Nutomic bad takes

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I am really curious, who is it that goes around and slanders me behind my back? Why do they care so much what a random person on the internet says? And these are just some casual comments in an obscure online forum. Does this individual not have work to do, or friends to spend time with instead of this? So feel free to send me a private message with the username who sends these links.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Piefed has two user rating systems. Your attitude, which is public, and allows people to see what your ratio of up votes to down votes is. The other being reputation, which is generally reserved for administration and moderation iirc. Which is an accumulation of how other people upvote and downvote you. Basically the sort of thing anyone could get just by looking at the public information just condensed all in one spot.

    Anyone calling it social credit score is being disingenuous. The most controversial feature it has is its content filtering system, which is disabled by default.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    And also most of the things you said are simply wrong.

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Nice screenshot by the way, which leaves out 90% of the actual comment. Link for comparison. I wont even get into the other deceptions, you really are true to your name.

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  • [+] -12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Ew gross, fuck tankies. I'm really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No, Lemmy is fine. We may have our personal opinions on our things, but we never let them affect our work. A lot of admins and contributors also keep an eye on it. If you dont like how moderation works on a particular Lemmy instance, you can find a dozen other instances with different rules. As developers we could not even ban the clowns on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if we wanted.

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    [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What I miss is a auth service for all of them. Something like a "common user" where you can have all your Fediverse services under the same user.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    TikTok -> driving rusty nails through your nipples

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (19 children)
  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Revolt (now known as Stoat) isn't federated though.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Is there a federated version, either in the works or planned? Because otherwise, Stoat is the only option.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    Matrix just isn't up to it. It doesn't feel like Discord at all. It hasn't taken off in any meaningful way.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    None of those really "feel like" the things they're replacing. I don't really even think that should be the goal. They occupy the same space, though, and the infographic would look stupid if it showed all the options in some category, so they just picked a popular proprietary/centralized one, and a popular federated alternative in the same category. In this case discord is a popular chat app, and the most popular federa chat app afaict is matrix.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No.

    Other alternatives are Root, not federated.

    There's also Roomy in development which is federated, and will tie into Bluesky.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe add Matrix as a Discord alternative?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The Element application is solid now. Still I think it'd be a rough transition for most discord users. But more users probably means more potential for developer interest

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    The Element application is solid now.

    Eh, kind of. I have almost 300 unread message notifications I cannot get rid of. I have scrolled up as far as I can then slowly back down. I have gone into threads and done the same.

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Lol, posting Piefed as an alternative to reddit to Lemmy...

    Also, PeerTube is super obtuse to get an account and has almost no reach. You almost have to personally know someone who has a server or host your own. There's a reason why video hosting has gotten so corporatized: it's expensive. That said, almost "no one" used Mastodon for nearly a decade and it's finally starting to take off, so maybe it just needs another decade or two.

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago* (9 children)

    A lot of people hesitate to promote lemmy because of how transphobic / authoritarian the lead devs are. It's unfortunate, but if you're concerned about that then piefed really is the more attractive option (I like my comment history too much to have switched yet but... man, it's getting hard to justify not having done it.)

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

    No one likes the lemmy lead devs or their stances. But, to my knowledge, they just keep doing their own thing over at .ml and never channel it into their actual codebase.

    When I first started here, I was on Kbin, and switched to lemmy because it was so much better. I considered switching to Piefed exactly because of these reasons you mentioned (I've already switched lemmy instances, comment history is not an issue for me), but when I looked into it there were so many just frankly aggravating things about the way it works and filters stuff by default (not to mention being written in Python, but that's completely tangential) that I couldn't do it.

    Sure, lemmy developers have backwards principles. But at least their software doesn't. I completely get why someone would use Piefed instead, especially if they're trans or of some other demographic directly targeted by the lemmy developers, but I wouldn't do it myself (unless it gets better, of course).

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    And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

    People are more likely to donate to a project that they actually use. If more people are using piefed, it means more money going to that project rather than a bunch of tankies. So I can see why people who disagree with the Lemmy devs might want to direct people elsewhere even if the software itself is apolitical.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    It's a testament to (if nothing else) the ability of the piefed devs to behave like adults that I know nothing about them personally. Nu/Des are horrible people, both politically and interpersonally, but that's the beauty of FOSS: Those of us comfortable with separating the software from the creators get to stick with the software we prefer over one that lacks features or broad support (i.e. all the piefed apps I've tried have been pretty rough). Same energy as why people still use windows instead of linux.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I'd argue that it is more because so many people have hate comms and groups set up specifically to target the lemmy devs. Idk why people hate Des so much

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Theee are hate comms for the lemmy devs? I've failed run across them, huh.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    There's even a user who manually mirrors stuff posted on ml because they hate the devs that much

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not entirely sure what that means.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    There are both comms that are hostile towards the devs and a specific user who's calling is reposting content AND attacking the lemmy devs

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    (I don't want to come across like I'm nitpicking because no, to be clear I'm genuinely interested in this.)

    That many communities are hostile to the devs shouldn't be surprising, because unfortunately the lemmy devs are openly bigoted and most communities don't like that. And that's ignoring how Des is also a genocide denier and dismisses the human rights abuses of china while championing authoritarians (ex: their profile banner is currently an image of Mao), things many communities explicitly do not allow.

    Without knowing which user you're referring to I can't speak to the scope of what they're doing, but a single user isn't exactly evidence of hate groups or hate communities specifically set up to target the lemmy devs. That's just reprehensible people being criticized, and then one potentially freak user taking it beyond what is reasonable.

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