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[–] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Shit is going down in Minnesota but they've never been more organized than they are now.

If you want to help you can donate to a few groups.

https://nlgmn.org/mass-defense/

https://www.wfmn.org/funds/immigrant-rapid-response/

More comprehensive list here https://www.standwithminnesota.com/

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The labour movement some 100 years back in minneapolis beat the shit out of cops and mafia thugs and strikebreakers trying to break the teamsters union's pickets.

    Organized club battles, each with long guns to the side in case, and the teamsters won. Not one battle either this was a protracted struggle, for months or idk how long exactly.

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  • [–] 153 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You think these fucks care about your rights?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, don’t resist. Just get in the shower.

    ^(/s)^

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You think recognizing that they don't care about your rights is the same as "not resisting"?

    The problem is that people don't recognize that their rights don't matter anymore.

    Alex Pretti exercised his 2nd amendment right and never broke the law, yet he was executed in broad daylight. It's time to recognize that your rights no longer protect you (just like they rarely ever protected minorites) and fucking revolt already.

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  • [+] 83 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 113 points 9 months ago (27 children)

    None. They said your rights can be waved away at the discretion of any federal agent. Which means your rights don’t exist

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  • [+] -16 points 9 months ago (25 children)

    Sounds like an excellent opportunity to sue them into the ground. A federal officer illegal disregarding your constitutional rights is a payday most can only dream of.

    So chill out and lawyer up.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    *If you survive. Also you can't sue the government without their consent.

    Land of the free and whatever.

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  • [+] -13 points 9 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Actually no, qualified immunity shields them personally. A tortured precedent, if the exact situation has not happened and been sued on it gets thrown out, or some ridiculous thing like that.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Qualified immunity can be stripped. It's not absolute. Constitutional violations are absolutely grounds for losing qualified immunity.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    In theory or what? Last I heard they were virtually immune. Courts are getting worse, not better too, and judges decide.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Judges are appointed for life; there's really no reason why they would match lock step with Trumps orders. Yes they're conservative (not all of them), but I don't believe they're going to break the law or compromise their integrity for Trump.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Are you for real? You do know about the federalist society? They groom them from law school, picking the ones less likely to come down with patriotism.

    It has not been like you describe since idk when, the 70s really.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    And the left didn't do the exact same thing for their judges? Y'all are all just incorruptible while the right are spawn of Satan or something?....

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The left? The left is nowhere near power. I am having trouble hearing you from inside the ass of the billionaires there.

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  • [+] -10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Bro, left dominates higher education. The idea that there's some conservative cabal brainwashing law students is hilarious.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    It isn't a secret about the federalist society, never has been at least that part of it. You are trying to argue established fact, if I wanted to do that I would find some conservatives online to call them out for lying about executing american citizens under false pretext, as if that's an acceptable precedent to set, that doesn't fly in the face of everything those traitors claim to believe in.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And the left has the American Constitution Society, big whoop; the right and the left aren't doing anything that the otherside isn't doing as well.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Your profile has disgusting comments, endorsing the execution of protesters, pretending to believe the false pretexts told to justify it.

    Which is a betrayal of the constitution and laws, a betrayal of the country, and shows a real lack of understanding and historical perspective to endorse the government being able to summarily execute citizens on the streets. If for real, only a weak mind would fall that deep into the arguments of cynical influencers turning people against their country and fellow citizens, no?

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Well by all means attack the person over the argument.

    Imagine researching a random stranger on the internet looking for a gotcha.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It's not surprising you think assessing the credibility of people making incendinary comments is not proper. That would help explain why you continue to pretend to believe the administration in their concerted efforts to overthrow the republic and replace it with a fascist kakistocracy. It would help explain why you would think such a thing would be good for you too perhaps, if you are for real.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Thats a naive take considering all the ridiculous rulings coming from SCOTUS, the highest court in the land.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    ridiculous

    Matter of perspective.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The courts are fucked, we cannot sue our way out of this. Scotus will cancel it with any success, if appeals did not first.

    They already barred nationwide injunctions. The admin could round up citizens to concentration camps and no judge can now say stop. You can try to sue individually as if irreperable harm would not have haapened by then if you could even get it into court.

    Seriously that was a big deal and media did not realize it. Or tell us if they did. Scotus is nazi.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    More realistic headline: "Here's a list of things your family can sue the government for after you're dead, once their GoFundMe goals are met".

    The only rights you have with ICE are made of lead.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    This is all good information. DHS doesn’t care about constitutional protections. They enter homes with administrative warrants. They can detain anyone, anytime, anywhere.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Breaking and entering using force? Time to stand my ground.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    I'm just waiting to hear that news. President Miller wants that to happen. He's setting up all the pieces so it happens as soon as possible.

    Stephen Miller is such a little bitch he couldn't even deal with his neighbors in Arlington, VA writing chalk messages on the sidewalk next to his house, so he had to pack up and run away to a military base. What kind of little bitch boy does that? I hope he takes care of himself in the same way that his Nazi heroes did.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    If you make it out alive, they would almost certainly send you to ADX Florence (or equivalent). Rights and protections are no longer inalienable, if you are part of the fascist regime. Taking a stand, saying “no more!”, is what we should all do. I’m terrified of the prospect of prison. However, at the current rate of escalation, we might all soon face a similar dilemma.

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  • [–] 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Remember kids, murder is against the law. So, if ICE tries to murder you like they did those 2 other people just say, "thats illegal".

    They will have no choice but to stop murdering you.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago*

    ICE has murdered about 50 people so far this year.

    They don't just execute white people in the streets. Don't forget that they also operate concentration camps that have been murdering brown people for years

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago

    Title should be changed to "ysk what legal rights will be violated in encounters with ice"

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago

    I don't think the ICE officer will care about your rights, much less about rights that they don't even know...

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago*

    You de facto do not have a right to have your rights honored though. If an agent wants to put a slug in your head, they will demonize you, maybe persecute your friends and anyone sticking up for you.

    The state needs to file open murder charges for both executions. There is nothing to investigate that is a cowardly cop out

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    Does that matter, given ICE doesn't give a fuck about the law?

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Those rights would count in a country still under the rule of law. Which the US is no longer.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Wtf is this article. Sounds like to me x is illegal but ICE did x anyways

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    As we all learned, it's legal for you to die.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    How can you assert any rights when facing a group of masked, armed, thugs?

    The masks allow them to avoid any accountability when they disregard your rights.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    At this point assume none, including a right to live. It's good to know in any case.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Studded tires and going slower than the posted speed limit, which normally is the expected speed and you shouldn't go more than 10% slower than it. Those are two rights that come to mind when dealing with ice.

    Oh wait ICE means something else in the US. Yeah, good luck guys.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    What asshole says you shouldn't go >10% slower than the speed limit.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You can if it's slippery or when there's a corner. Not on a straight dry road with good visibility. That's just pointlessly dangerous

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    There are very few roads with minimum speed limits. If you're driving the exact same as the speed limit, you're the one that's endangering everyone on the road.

    You should always expect a bicycle around every turn that's going 5 mph.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    If someone's going >10% over the speed limit, that means other people have to pass them, which is a dangerous maneuver. If they're going the speed limit, only selfish people will pass them.

    Police are literally allowed stop you for going 50-60 on a 90 km/h road here in the middle of the summer. It's suspicious and a completely valid reason to check if you're drunk.

    around every turn that’s going 5 mph.

    But

    You can if it’s slippery or when there’s a corner. Not on a straight dry road with good visibility.

    I literally said that corners (tight ones anyway) and poor visibility (which corners can cause) in general are valid excuses, in addition to the aforementioned ice. "I was scared of doing 90" is not. I think you're lacking a little bit of reading comprehension. Must be the famously excellent American school system.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    You do not have to pass someone who is driving safely. You could, you know, also drive safely

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    I prefer to be as far away from drunk drivers, broken cars and unskilled drivers as possible. So no, I won't drive behind someone like that.

    Speed differences are known to be more dangerous than actually going the speed limit. You should have a valid reason for driving slowly. If you don't and can't handle driving at the speed limit, you shouldn't have a license.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago*

    know your rights! All three of them!

    You have the right not to be killed

    Murder is a crime!

    Unless it was done by a police man...

    The clash from 1982 still timely

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Maybe the Ayatollah of Iran should reverse threaten Trump if he doesn't stop killing civilians?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah that clearly isn't a thing for them anymore

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Source? I didn't see gun rights being taken away anywhere in the US. If every protestor was armed with an assault rifle, I doubt ICE would have the balls to kill anyone else in broad daylight

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    The fact that didn't happen after someone died for upholding their 2nd amendment rights is my source. You clearly don't have the right to bear arms Here's my source:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Point to where that happened

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    I said if EVERY protestor was armed with an assault rifle. Search up black panther armed protests for examples of where this worked.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    I think we're either missing each others points or in a weird agreement. I'm aware of the Philli BP show of force. Every community should do it that way, well articulated calm a show of community that can't be used against them.

    The fact is however they aren't in Philly and every where they have been the people have clearly had their rights squashed or are too and rightly so afraid to enforce them.

    Your point was second amendment mine was where is it in a meaningful way.

    We saw someone disarmed and shot then told not to believe our eyes.

    Now what seems to be happening is the second amendment I'd fuelling a rift in the republican party it seems. Iran looks to be the distraction from this whole dark period. But that is something that will prove my comment wrong.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Your rights are determined by how well you aim for the pelvic girdle.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    You have rights this is america *

    • Rights should be exercised at your own risk... Courts may change their rulings on them at any time, and not even the best lawyer on earth can revive after you've been shot in the head.
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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Fascists have nothing but contempt for rule of law.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    you have a legal rights to defend yourself with a firearm, which the gop and even tried is trying to discourage from.

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    You have all the rights. But Gestapo doesn't care.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Spoilers: none. You have no rights.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    None. These cretinous scumbags don't know or care what a persons rights are.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    You’re funny.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    You have these rights on paper. In fact you have no rights. It's obey or die.

    You voted for this, America. But hey. Kamala wasn't a True Socialist, amirite?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, blame the lefties for not stopping the righties instead of, you know, the righties.

    I mean seriously you think that the people who didn't vote for Kamala were such a large portion of the population they outnumber maga? That's wildly optimistic.

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