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[–] 168 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Token changes to mollify people. Don’t slow down.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    This is the first time in a while this admin has thrown a scapegoat out instead of just puffing up their chest and saying “nah”.

    It’s not much but it shows the pressure IS working. Keep going.

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  • [–] 88 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol “commander at large” and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change

    So he gets a nice comfy retirement

    Bovino’s sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents under Bovino’s command.

    Lol. No.

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  • [+] 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    He's getting fired because he flubbed the PR. Their lies were too audacious and too easily disproven to be fully accepted at desired numbers within their base. Steven Miller is reportedly one of his main detractors.

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  • [–] 87 points 9 months ago

    Good. Now try him for his crimes.

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  • [–] 79 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    He needs to retire into a prison cell.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Ironically, NPH is the Nazi in that movie. They even wear the same coat.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The symbolism in the movie is apparently in contrast to the book, which glorified war and the human side. The director decided to take it another direction and it was a fucking great decision

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sadly, most viewers (at least, the most vocal ones here in America) really don't understand that movie and end up glorifying the humans by the end. Media literacy is something we need to teach better

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I have to admit, the book makes a great argument for "fascism" / military meritocracy, plus it's just a easy to read action book.

    I still think the argument is very flawed, and it's a good thing that Heinlein (iirc) never had children to raise.

    But do read it, it's a decent book with an interesting argument.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    The book itself does not glorify fascism but rather shows a fascist future human society. Heinlein wasn't a fucking a Nazi and the "allure" of this weird future fascism is the point on which the reader is supposed to reflect.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    First: The book does not glorify historically existing fascism, no.

    But I believe that it is at least a half-serious argument, that Heinlein actually believes that a society like the one in the book wouldn't be the worst.

    I don't believe that Heinlein supported racism or the oppression of "lesser" people. He made that point pretty clear, in interviews, life choices, other stories or by famously revealing (iirc) that Ricoh was brown-skinned.

    But the militarism, united humanity in a hostile universe, the weird ideas about authority and merit, and the per aspera ad astra part? I do believe that he's at least in part making a sincere argument, wrapped in an action story as a vehicle. The world he creates resonates too well with Heinlein's biography, imho.

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  • [–] [S] 109 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Now what kind of material did Nat Geo have in their magazines he might have found arousing, I wonder?

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago

    Should be sent directly to The Hague, do not pass Go.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    peak of his career really did turn out to be prancing around at a few gas stations in an ugly coat trying to look tough.

    time for more local organizing while they try a new tactic.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Then I heard him on TV, trying to sound tough with a voice like a cartoon character. These guys really have a weird vision of who is cool or scary. Stephen PeeWee Himmler Miller thinks he sounds tough, and he always sounds like a screeching weenie. I guess this is what a tough guy looks like to him.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    To be replaced by someone just as bad I'm sure.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I think minnesota could probably get him on some form of Dereliction of Duty/RICO and throw in felony murder.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Accessory after the fact. Grab his ass in a blue state, send him back to mn, in an unmarked car.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I sure hope they don't let these characters just slink off into the shadows, never to face any consequences whatsoever.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    the first scapegoat.

    I kinda suspect that the administration was told or it was heavily suggested by higher ups in the military that "yeah...if you go with this insurrection act we're not going to have your backs on this one." Otherwise why would they be throwing Bovino under the bus for this?

    What has happened thus far is apparently what they wanted according to project 25 but like I said I suspect they don't have the support of the people they NEED the support from.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    It would be nothing short of miraculous if that plan falls through just because it became wildly unpopular. This brings two things to mind:

    1. It would explain why there's a phased rollout of worse and worse policy with a lot of improv along the way. Otherwise, all this shit would "just happen" inside the first year.

    2. It's not hard to imagine these asswipes acting in a retaliatory manner for not getting their way. But what's worse is to imagine a failing MAGA or P2025 cabal "going for broke" if it appears they're all but finished, should we get there. IMO, we should all be prepared for both.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Twin Cities are creating a legend for themselves. Incredible resistance.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago*

    I hope he retires and tries to live out in the general public. Lets see him try to go to the grocery store or eat in a restaurant. At minimum he'll have spit in all his food for the rest of his dumbass life, assuming he doesnt end up in prison for his civil rights crimes under color of law.

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    Governor Tim Walz—whom the White House has blamed for inciting violence—and the two men are now on “a similar wavelength.”

    Once again, he just goes along with whomever he spoke with last

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago*

    He barely had time for one photo op though. Gestapo Greg was looking forward to lowering the bar even more so he can reach it.

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  • Bye 👋

    We'll always remember you unfondly. Hope whoever they replace you with isn't somehow fucking worse

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Hopefully he downloaded the Epstein files on the way out

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Ha, they will be misfiled to prevent anyone doing that, or court order forcing them. The explosive stuff anyway, if not destroyed.

    Also though copied to prez's legal fixers, and maybe others. Prez is a lifelong blackmailer.

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  • [+] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)
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    The Border Patrol chief has been ousted from his role as “commander at large,” and will return to El Centro.

    Finally, some accountability. Can’t imagine a worse punishment than being sent to El Centro.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Good riddance you sack of shit! Prosecute the racist loser too.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Back to making shitty cookies in a tree with Jeff Sessions.

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    [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    I hope someone holds a grudge and he's hunted down.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    This asshole is going to retire with full benefits.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    He's the face of ICE, surely the benefits start to mean less when every work9ng class person can't wait to spit in your food.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    He did not. Unfortunately.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Trump has always been happy to throw underlings under the bus. Nothing will change until Trump and those directly under him are replaced.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Nah. They sent him home to retire. Kind of like an extreme version of suspended, but with full pay.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    A number of ICE agents may also be redeployed/withdrawn. But he's being replaced by the guy who came up with Trumps immigration policy... 😳 What to know about Tom Homan, Trump’s border czar, as he heads to Minneapolis

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    Until he loses his life, it means nothing

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    They just cycled a key figure out of public view. This is PR strategy - when criticism against a particular organization or any of its key figure(s) reaches a certain point, replace some key figures.

    Tr;dr: the frogs in the pot all cheer as the cook is replaced and their replacement turns down the hob a touch.

    People tend to see key figures as representative of entire organizations, e.g., there are so many people who see removing Trump as being a solution despite him being a clear symptom of the problem. Letting some take a fall is a PR win grab bag: many people interpret the "punishment" of a few people as being applied to the whole organization and it suggests reform and atonement without actually changing anything substantial. Then the new figures start and optionally say they're changing strategies for future improvement - "it'll work but it takes time, just trust me bro."

    As long as this round of musical chairs tells a story that enough critics want to hear, enough mounting critical pressure is reduced for the cycle to continue a bit longer.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Someone needs to make renderings of his face with hair. You know, for the future.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    He is going retire out to Venuzula or Argentina and grow a funny mustache.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Who will represent the Hitler Youth at ICE?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    He was fired for getting caught.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago*

    No, He was fired because he said that Pretti’s Second Amendment rights were invalid. MAGA can justify any amount of murder, but you start saying that people can’t carry guns and you’re going to lose support.

    They were losing the base, so they turn on him and Noem and then they can pretend that anything bad was down to those two and the base can go back to fully supporting the administration and ICE

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    The only thing this does it show his other loyalist that being loyal and doing everything they tell you to do won't mean you keep your position.

    Even though he's likely going to still get paid or given some stocks or trump coins or something instead of being held accountable, it's still an act that will clearly shows that trump will not stand by you when you get in trouble for following his orders.

    His lackys are already bickering and at each other. This will fuel the fire.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Iwould say that he got promotion.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Don’t they have death sentence in that hell of a country?

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