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If ICE agents were smart they would refuse to do this. Sooner or later someone is going to defend their home against these goons, using lethal force. The government is deliberately putting these morons in harm's way so they can use the death of an agent as political currency; people like Miller care so little about ICE agents that they wish to see them dead.
MAGAmind have their hands clasped in excitement. They want the violence in the streets. We can’t win direct conflict with their goons. We must not give them what they want. We must circumvent their foot soldiers, and seek direct action against their masters. Make it clear to everyone: go after the money
That's all the excuse they need to ratchet this up another notch.
You could look at Renee Good and see that they need no pretext at all to shoot and kill without repercussions. "Don't feed the troll" isn't a great strategy when it's already gnawing on your leg.
I realized a bit after posting that they'll do what they want anyway without repercussions, so yea, you're right.
They're looking to instigate violence to justify martial law. Your 2nd Amendment solution only gives them more opportunity to oppress and kill civilians. If you fight the federal government you will lose. Discredit them, don't unalive them.
I'm not advocating for that, but as the prior poster said, "Sooner or later someone is going to defend their home against these goons, using lethal force" and they'll use that as pretext to increase the boldness and spread of their violence. At that point with a totalitarian state, what recourse to the law remains?
I found a memo that says they can’t 
You need the other document
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
(Hey, It's not illegal to quote the nation's founders, right? 👀)
Edit: Btw I remember this was required class material... must be awkward for the highschoolers of current times lol
How long till they break into a home and find themselves in the midst of a boobytrap. Nice bucket of paint over the door, that sort of thing. Nothing harmful, just a bucket of yellow paint to mark the cowards for what they are. This is clearly criminal behavior, and needs to stop.
I think I've seen this one
Nothing harmful, just a bucket of yellow paint
From the report they'll file: I was attacked by a chemical weapon in the form of a pigmented substance, so I started blastin'
Land of the free
Land of the fee*
It was only Land of the Free while it was the Home of the Brave, but no one would stand up for their rights so they lost them.
"advocates say..."
Dude, armed masked individuals are breaking into your house and kidnapping you and your family.
Castle doctrine says otherwise.
Sir, this is a Wendy's Minnesota. There's no castle doctrine, but rather a duty to retreat.
Look, if I'm on that jury I'm not convicting you if nazis break down your door and you start defending yourself
I understand, however in the article it states "The shift comes as the Trump administration dramatically expands immigration arrests nationwide..."
There's a reason this started in areas such as Minnesota. I fully believe this is just trial runs and laying the (il)legal framework to handle more difficult areas.
Incorrect. Minnesota has a castle doctrine for defending your home, a duty to retreat in public.
Duty to retreat does not apply when you are already in your own home. It's only when you are in public or outside of the protection of your own home.
Yeah, but there's usually like 6 ice goons in riot gear with a lot of firepower. You hopefully kill a couple before getting shot to death yourself, and Trump doesn't give a shit if a few of his goons die. Citizens need to take up arms and force ice out. Not hope a few get into shootouts at an occasional home here or there.
Sounds like a fine way to end up eating a buckshot sandwich, but I'm not one to interrupt my enemy while they're making a mistake.
They know who has guns. They're going after people who don't.
Love to be proven wrong, though.
Contrary to what many people may believe, while I'm sure the government has an idea of who has guns and who doesn't, I doubt that idea accurately reflects reality. There are lots of ways in the US to get or make a gun that don't involve anything beyond cash changing hands.
It's only a matter of time.
Just a reminder that "the government" now includes Palantir's dystopian surveillance suite. You can be sure that every target has a confidence rating assigned to it as to what kind of resistance can be expected. The small percentage of people that maintain a low enough profile to be able to be armed without having any sort of red flag attached are likely to be assigned a low confidence rating. Yes, there will always be a chance that there's a mismatch. But the goons on the ground are being sent after the lowest hanging fruit. They may be mouth breathing meatsacks, but the ones calling the shots are not.
I jate to break it to you, but do you think palantir has accurate data? It's ai. It hallucinates by design
They have your data in data warehouses. They can definitely know if you 100% have a gun based off of your posts with a picture of a gun and some registration data from a breach that leaked, but what if its like 80% confidence? Their confidence is based off massive human-involved assumptions.
They have the data and theyre trying to sell access to it. Their profit margins arent affected if they are wrong 70% of the time, they make bank when it works that 30% and thats what governments and corps spend millions on. They have no idea how accurate it really is, they are really just guessing off of probabilities. And your inconvenience for being probed and labelled incorrectly? Well that is a price the rich are willing to pay
People are already asking how long it will take for an ICE gestapo to get shot
I'm shocked everyday that it still isn't happening
So they're illegally entering homes? Nice, we should stop them?
crickets
GDI
People have killed cops and got off free of charge to protect their rights. Cops. Real agents of a legitimate state.
Trump previously: "Take the guns first, go through due process second." (actual quote)
Trump today: "Take the homes first, go through due process second."
Next they'll be breaking into churches and schools, watch for it. Churches used to be considered off-limits, but I'm betting they are only off-limits in the bible belt, not the rest of the country.
They raided a school like the day after Good
They are this close to raiding churches: https://www.ewtnnews.com/world/us/minnesota-ice-catholic-church
They deported the church's maintenance guy and loitered at the church to intimidate the rest of the parishioners.
Well I have a memo deauthorizing it, it's just as legally enforceable as theirs.
That explains the lack of willingness to show judicial warrants: there aren't any because fuck you!
I'm pretty sure that has the same enforceability legal standing as ICE saying its legal for them to shoot anyone anywhere for any reason.
Isn't there a literal constitutional amendment that protects against precisely that?
Yeah but memo
That particular section is now illegible due to the orange and brown skidmark across the page.
Holy crap. Todd Lyons is a motherfucking traitor to sign this document.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26499371-dhs-ice-memo-1-21-26/
Shoot them in the face
Memo be damned, this clearly violates the 4th amendment,
Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
But the other branches of our democracy are captured and complicit in this disregard for the rule of law. It explicitly says people/person not citizen, not legal person, not law abiding citizen or person, just a person has this right no other qualifiers. My fear is if the rule of law continues to crumble as fast as it has over this past year, shit is going to get extremely ugly and I fear what this means for my country. It's clear that protesting only isn't doing it and I fear again that elections aren't going to solve this problem.
Just saying that ISIS used this scenario to their advantage in the past. Just saying.
Again, trump needs to be held accountable for this. Trump and the R's are either telling them to do this or are okay with this. You can't say ICE is doing its own thing when you are directing them to do this trump.
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