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[–] 101 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Man it's hard to teach non-violence in an age of violence and emotional deregulation.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago

    "it is very unfortunate that our Jaeydighn used the calming banana as a weapon but we believe it's important for him to express himself freely and from now on we will peel it in an effort to make the impact softer for everyone involved."

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  • [–] 205 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Took those Snickers ads way too seriously

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  • [–] 82 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I wonder if they saw the ad and thought "a Snickers a day will get expensive, we'll give him a banana instead".

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  • [–] 78 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    After all, it's just a banana. How much can it possibly cost? Ten dollars?

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  • [+] 68 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 66 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    On top of all of this, at least in my country, the pay is shit. And no government past or present seems interested in changing it so...

    Always the same story on loop.
    "Nobody wants to work anymore" - Because the pay is shit.
    "We're struggling to fill positions" - Because the pay is shit.
    "This generation is laz— The. Pay. Is. Shit.

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  • [–] 143 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    In a situation like this is it better to punch the kid or the parents?

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  • [–] 85 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You sound angry. How about eating a nice banana instead?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Hey! This is the internet, someone will suggest to play safe, take a swing at all three.

    I know I sound old, but I miss the days when I (or even my kids) went to school. If a teacher reached out to parents you knew troubles where waiting at home. Not like being beaten senseless, but a punishment was lurking in your near future which would match your wrong doing.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Surely the designer put it up as a prank.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Graphic designers do this crap all the time. I've got an aviation textbook with three meshed gears on the cover:

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Is there a community for like these "looks/sounds great until you think about it for two seconds" style art/news/media fails? Because I feel like it would be fun time.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Dude school kids were awful when I was one and couldn't understand why they couldn't think logically. I cant imagine how bad it is now after decades of brainrot and phones in schools. I would NEVER be a teacher.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago

    As a youth soccer coach, I'd take this over some of the parents I've dealt with. We had one girl bullying other kids and when we told the mom she refused to believe us. Even when one of the other coaches told her she overheard it. The mom just said she must have misheard.

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  • [–] 118 points 9 months ago (30 children)

    People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

    Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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  • [–] 62 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Expelled? If they’re Black we just send them right to prison!

    Sadly this isn’t a joke

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago

    Yes, depending on the age and if police are on campus. Police tend to be permanent on some campuses for "security" but schools with them statistically show a much higher rate of incarceration. Although expulsion is also a fast track to prison, too.

    Unsurprisingly, police tend to be in predominantly black schools, although even in desegregated schools (for which there are very few), it's black students most likely to get in trouble for acting out. Socioeconomic status accounts for some of this, though.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    My sister in law and her husband are these people.

    She had a kid in high school was non-verbal autistic that she gave up for adoption and ignored. Her first son with her husband was definitely on the spectrum and struggled hard in social situations and in school. School actually pushed for the diagnosis, but there were the "no way. Not my kid." Kind of people. And did nothing.

    Their second kid came along and hes further along the spectrum than their other kid. He's 6 and still not potty trained and barely talking. My 4 year old passed him developmentally a year or more ago, which seems to have been the catalyst for them to seek help.

    Both kids are doing better no that theyre seeing specialist and on development plans with the school. I just cant believe they waited so long... especially because her brother has a son who is also non verbal autistic, and his parents got him diagnosed before i even knew you could see those traits in children

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    If this is the US, ain't nobody can afford a therapist now.

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  • [+] -16 points 9 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    How.

    No, really. Specifically tell us all here how “they chose that”.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    By fucking the economy so hard they most people live paycheck to paycheck, no savings, and since there's no universal healthcare people need to pay therapy from money they don't have.

    This is by design, keep the poor poor so they don't learn enough and get enough resources to change things. Things like fair pay and healthcare cost a lot to industries that pay lobbyists.

    If the current status is costing the government more than universal healthcare, who is pocketing the difference? Hospitals, insurance companies.

    Yeah, "they choose that". "They" being the industries that pay lobbyists to make sure that "that" keeps happening, and "that" being US citizens not being able to afford therapy, in between other things.

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  • [+] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    By voting against their own interests for decades.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Are you talking about the US, or elsewhere?

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  • [+] 3 points 9 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Why are you and others in your position not organizing and rioting?

    The answer, I expect, is that you’re not willing to risk the relative comfort you enjoy.

    That’s on you.

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  • [+] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    So, no answer?

    I ask again. Why are you not rioting?

    I have as much empathy for you as I have for Russian and Israeli citizens. As much empathy as I would have had for your average German in 1939.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I work at a school and I received training that explicitly told us zero tolerance does not work, made me do a double take. So in at least the northern states things are changing for the better.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Yup, I teach at University in California and get to cite that. It's a little counter intuitive for people, but it's true and much better for teachers to understand. I imagine some places ignore data, though.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I mean, that depends on the age. If that kid is 7 or older, yeah, you should probably look into therapy to figure out where that behavior is coming from. 5 or 6, well, kids are still developing emotional regulation at that point. I'm not saying the reaction should be, "OK, we packed a banana," but probably something more like, "Oh no, I'm so sorry, we're going to have a talk about how it's never OK to hit, have you witnessed this kind of behavior before?" then offer to pay for the glasses. (Also, packing a banana isn't a bad idea, as well as making sure he's getting enough sleep. 9 times out of 10, when young kid gets disregulated, they're over-tired or hungry).

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm here thinking people are so quick to insist on therapy. We don't even know if they've tried to discipline their child like a normal parent should.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I'm referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.

    Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids... although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.

    Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn't happening, even in better administrations.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And this on top of the trump administration convincing everyone that you want to do gender reassignment surgery on their children during lunch.

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Wife used to be a teacher. Key word USED to.

    Had a student who regularly threatened to kill her and destroyed her classroom at least twice a week. She would have to clear all the students into the hall while he went on a rampage in there.

    The AP would just come down and give him video games to "calm him down". Guess who learned to freak out for rewards?

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  • [+] -15 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    This specific child was being neglected at home. He clearly felt that school was the only place he could exert control without being hit for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Can you point it out for a dumbass?

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This isn’t even that bad.

    The reason bullies get away with being bullies at school is cause their parents also tend to be bullies. So when the little shit gets in trouble for being a bully, his fat parents will waddle in and bully the stuff and faculty for daring to discipline their little skid mark. Faculty don’t wanna deal with this, so they let the little shits get away with everything and only punishing the kids who fight back

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    Good first step, now make him write “I will eat my calming banana instead of getting angry” 1000 times on the chalkboard like Bart.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    All the problematic peers I’ve known either were born into a neglectful or hostile household, or were neurodivergent of some kind and didn’t fit in with the environment we were in, since those who were typical and were born into understanding families would just do what they were supposed to do.

    Due to how schools where I live are supposed to be looking out for signs of neurodivergence or other differences, while also being underfunded without a justification, many students aren’t even seen and once they get to middle or high school, they become the violent and problematic ones.

    Then again though, it’s also the parents’ responsibility to make sure their own child is heard and cared for to prevent such outbursts from happening in the first place, and those neglectful or hostile households are likely a result of the parents not understanding what being mentally healthy means.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I'm a teacher assistant, 80% sure I want to go into teaching (students assaulting me isn't holding me back. Its just the self confidence of stepping up and leading the class is what's holding me back. And granted, I'm not in the USA, so I don't fear school shootings)

    I've had students punch me. I've had students slam doors hard enough to break windows. But I also remember seeing the students learn something. The way their face lights up when they are smarter than their friend, or when they make a connection in math. THATS what is bringing me back to the classroom.

    The shy kid in yr 8 is now school captain. The kid I personally nicknamed 'Cartman' because that was his personality, is helping the new kid around school when teachers aren't looking.

    Remember the good bits

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    80% sure I want to go into teaching

    Judging by the rest of your message, I think you'd be a great teacher, you should become one.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the encouraging words. I was going to make a comment about "that's 4 years of study, just for a maybe I will like it". But this year (well, this July) marks 4 years of being a Teacher Assistant, and I'm still ready for another 4 years...

    All the signs say "go for it", but the leadership...

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    The decision is yours to make after all, and it's a pretty important one. But I think any educational system (wherever you're from, doesn't matter) can always use more teachers that actually care for their students and aren't there just to have a job, which isn't always the case unfortunately.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    the self confidence of stepping up and leading the class is what’s holding me back

    You get used to it, especially after a few times of going through and refining your material. Once you have a clearer vision of the outcome you want a class to have, it's a lot easier to figure out how you can guide groups of students to that point, even if the group dynamics change from year to year.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The kid I personally nicknamed ‘Cartman’ because that was his personality, is helping the new kid around school when teachers aren’t looking.

    Should we be worried that Cartman is helping other kids, or is that a sign that he really grew and matured as a person?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago

    Dear Parent,

    In an effort to break the routine of unacceptable parenting, I would like to demonstrate what you can do with banans. First, get a large bunch of preferrably green bananas. Remove two of these bananas from the bunch. Take one banana, and insert the stem rigorously into your right ear canal. Repeat with the other banana in your left ear canal. Do not remove the banana until they begin to wither.

    And thats it!

    The effort to reduce your child's violent outbursts remains the same, but at least you will be able to share your Superpower of Narrow Intelligence with the public! Everyone will unequivocally know that you are a moron.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago

    This stupidity makes me need a calming banana.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    "Ah yes, the ancient cure for physical assault: potassium. I’m sure the glasses will magically fix themselves once he finishes his 'Superpower' fruit. 🍌👓

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    I'm just surprised they didn't write something like "You deserved it". It gets even worse than this, believe it or not.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Teaching in a school has greatly changed over the past 3 decades. It's still a rewarding career, but not one I wanted to stick with - the pressure to work miracles is too high, and the support just isn't there to do so.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What gets me is the complete lack of respect, while also having standards that expect you to be a saint.

    Teaching title 1, after the district reorganized and combined schools with rival gangs - roster changing every day, buses showing up hours late, not being allowed to kick disruptive students out of the classroom, and having to withstand verbal abuse…

    They want you to be Jesus. Spend your own money on supplies, focus on “building a relationship” with the student who screamed “fucking f-ggot” in front of the principal at you…

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Friend was offered $80k to head up a new middle school Spanish esl dept, witb 2 other teachers. A month before school was to start, they set a date to finalize the contract. They'd never even interviewed for the 2 other teachers. They wanted her to see all 350+ kids 2x a week. And the salary had dropped to $21.6K, which is the state minimum wage of 15$ for 180 8hr days. This is in a super high COL town- the grocery store starts at $27 an hour, and $2k a month rent is a steal.

    She laughed at them an walked. Had a job for 38 an hour in a construction firm's office in 2 days (where Spanish fluency is a marketable skill dental a high esl labor force)

    The schools response was the admin in charge of her hiring trying to throw her under the bus. She wrote an OP ED to the paper calling my friend out by name (which was blacked out by the paper per their agreement- it was so bad the paper reached out and asked her permission to print it- she agreed, with her name redacted and a promise theyd print her rebuttal as op Ed the following week) they tried to blame her for backing out last minute leaving them in the lurch, and claiming it was her unwillingness to teach that was to blame for their lack of a proper esl dept despite almost 1/3 of the students being esl.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    The bait and switch is such a thing.

    I hated chemistry. My brain wants science that is as much as possible about doing pure math. I don’t want to be memorize exceptions to every little rule and naming conventions that also have exceptions. I wanted to teach physics, I interviewed for physics. I get the job, then I find out I’m teaching chemistry.

    They didn’t care that i wasn’t certified for chemistry, and that I scraped through that certification test (because I’m not going to teach anything I’m not certified to teach and took the test before the school year started) with knowing what a hydrogen bond was, much less anything covered in an organic chemistry class….

    I also had classes that were 2/3 special education, which mandated a coteacher. I met her in 3 weeks in and saw her once a month, because she needed to serve as a substitute teacher. I was not certified in SPED at the time, and the IEPs they gave me were a literal excel spreadsheet with the accommodations ticked off which is beyond illegal.

    The system is so beyond broken. No one seems to give a shit but there are parts of the country which are just failing.

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