Contents of said letter from daily beast: https://archive.is/YFBK3#selection-773.0-779.748

“Dear Jonas,” the president wrote to Norway’s prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre. “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT.”

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[–] 362 points 9 months ago (20 children)

dude is so pissed about not getting a peace prize hes going to war with the planet... as if to demonstrate why he would never, ever be deserving of such a prize.

its hard to really wrap your brain around how stupid a human you would have to be to write that letter... and who is worse the clearly mentally deficient president, or the circle of sycophants enabling this bullshit?

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  • [–] 187 points 9 months ago* (16 children)

    I mean, it fits entirely however for anyone paying attention.

    He hated New York high society because New York high society snubbed him and wouldn't let him in their club, because he's a classless ass.

    He hated the US neoliberal democratic order because they snubbed him and wouldn't let him in their club, because he doesn't actually know what the fuck is he doing and doesn't care about democracy.

    He vows to destroy any group or idea that would reject him. He views it as a personal affront and never feels like maybe he should be a better person.

    No, his solution is to destroy everything in his path, which is why he is also tearing apart NATO because he was snubbed by other democratic world leaders. He is such a giant fucking pussy baby bitch who can't handle rejection at all.

    He doesn't even care about ruling over the ashes, he just wants to see it all fall and neither understands nor cares to understand how any of it might impact him in the long run because he'll be dead before consequences come knocking.

    The fact that a third of the country are exactly the same really exposes how deep the USA's problems with mental health go.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago

    The fact that a third of the country are exactly the same really exposes how deep the USA’s problems with mental health go.

    This last part is the scary part. Normal humans see Grandpa Klan Robe here raging out and calling for "retribution" and think - someone should take the keys away.

    Dumbass conservative apes with broken brains look at that and cheer him on and want to vote for him even harder. 1984 was all too prescient, but that's because he was looking at quite recent events - "We've always been at war with [Greenland|Venezuela|Canada|Mexico]!"

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    I genuinely think there's a chance that everyone is completely missing his motivation here.

    Trump turns 80 on 14th June 2026. He wants someone, be it Denmark or the US Army, to give him a country for his birthday.

    What better gift is there?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    I'm shocked that no one has burned the pedo-lago club for furries down yet

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wait what? Don't bring furries into this. What'd they do to you? (Other than dance in front of ICE.)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    nothing?

    I personally don't care what people do in their spare time. I was making reference to donalds furry party he just had

    https://people.com/mar-a-lago-gala-dog-masks-rococo-gowns-11886133

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Why you do the furries dirty like that?

    They’re just autistic and deeply perverted. Not criminals

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    never said they were. was making reference to donalds furry party at his pedo Hotel golf course thing

    https://people.com/mar-a-lago-gala-dog-masks-rococo-gowns-11886133

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    He hated the US neoliberal democratic order because they snubbed him and wouldn’t let him in their club,

    Huh?

    He was fully in the neoliberal club...

    He got the fucking Clinton's to come to one of his weddings, neoliberals loved him because they were one of the few people he actually wrote checks too. Because he always got a return on it.

    The shit about him not liking the Clinton's is just WWF play acting.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    With the bad takes again? Neoliberals will take money from anyone. Thousands of average voters donated to neoliberal causes over decades. Were they ever in the club?

    One of the few good things the neoliberals ever did, was to say no to Trump when he demanded power. The fact that Obama ridiculed him, whatever you think of Obama. Should tell you how IN he was. It's not like everyone by that point didn't know he was a petulant manchild. They snubbed him. Figuratively and literally. Its why he ran in 2015 against them. Petty bitterness, like all his lawsuits. He just never thought he would win.

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    Yeah, he's always been mocked and derided since at least the 80s. The local press knew who and what he was for sure. Magazines like Spy mocked him all the time.

    I'm sure with his fragile snowflake ego that he has never felt fully accepted by the typical elites, especially old money. Maybe creepy pedo weirdo elites like Epstein and the freak(s) he ran his beauty pageants with at least tolerated having him around.

    The guy has always come off as thirsty AF for approval by things like Hollywood and so on, too...

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    the WWF connection is real. Trump has been a close ally of the McMahon family for decades and he was breifly involved with the show directley a couple of times . The way he runs conferences, talks to people, etc, is very similar to how things get scripted on the WWF/WWE

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    It's always been the sycophants who are worse. Slowly, deliberately, and methodically, America has been driven half-crazy stupid by extreme right wing xenophobia and ignorance. Reactionary ideology has fully engulfed the rotten brains of America's least introspective imbeciles. Trump is the mirror of their desperate desire to be heard, to be catered to, to be rescued from every perceived threat, real or imagined.

    We can shatter the mirror, but the monsters live among us.

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  • [–] 185 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    Lol, that letter reads like something a third grader wrote.

    "Dear Santa, since you decided not to give me a Nintendo for Christmas, I no longer feel like I need to clean my room and not say bad words. I have done more chores than any other person..."

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Next he will demand an Academy Award for Melatonin's piece of shit movie.

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  • [–] 54 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Is been mostly an embarrassing decade

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I dunno, I was pretty embarrassed by Dubya, as well, so it feels like its been almost a solid two and a half decades of embarrassment.

    Dubya and his middle east clusterfuck is when other nations started questioning US stability and relations but was considered an anomaly.

    Trump turned the anomaly into a certainty.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What about non dubya. What about Reagan. Ford? Nixon............ Its been a roughly embarrassing century. Longer actually. But at least a century.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, I don't disagree, but Reagan and Ford didn't necessarily make Europe especially distrustful of the USA. Reagan made South America distrustful of the USA, but the USA weren't specifically allied with many South American nations other than through imperial dominance anyway.

    The USA was mostly considered stable and relatively trustworthy, even with Reagan in charge. Dubya was when Europe really started questioning US long-term stability and trustworthiness as an economic partner and NATO partner.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    It's a very narrow distinction, but I'll give you that. Though it was Reagan that sold arms to the middle east and Iran. Perhaps they didn't think the US would fall under him. But they certainly knew he wasn't a dependable or upstanding person.

    Trump is very mask off in a way that many of those sociopath's weren't. Mostly because he's incapable of masking.

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  • [–] 121 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Someone in my family that's defended trump tooth and nail since the first term on everythinghas done just told me they oppose what he's doing to Greenland, and the flood of ICE agents in Minneapolis.

    I have never heard them speak a word against Trump. Not ever. And they have argued the craziest shit I've ever heard... Like, they think Renee was 'asking for what she got' levels of crazy, and that's after they watched all the videos.

    ...and they just told me they are now against Trump on these two huge events. This is nuts. I need to go but a lottery ticket or something.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    That is wild. I wonder why Greenland would be the tipping point?

    Usually conservatives practically swoon at the notion of invading and occupying things, despite all their talk about "America first", it's usually really Israel first, Americans dead last, and when it's time to bomb/invade something, they are balls-deep on the cheer-leading.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    As someone with experience with people who are in the MAGA reality bubble, this is because there is no in-canon explanation of Trump's actions (yet, the story writers patch these up pretty quick). There was no setup for this, no laying the misinformation groundwork and no existing goal that this advances.

    Since Greenland wasn't part of the story, it just came out of nowhere. Lacking any in-MAGA explaination, they are examining this situation as a normal person who knows normal facts and this is completely an unforced error by any measure as anyone can see.

    If this was something that was serious and planned then we would have started hearing about this months ago as they started preparing the lies and the misinformation seeding into social media via paid/artificial content creators or otherwise useful idiots. This is probably the strongest indication that Greenland is a distraction and not a real move. This is probably the case with Canada too, in my opinion.

    They would rather people talk about anything but the Epstein files and how they are very clearly covering them up and not complying with the law. They don't want reporters to have time to report on all of the people that he has pardoned who also have made $2-5 million dollar donations to various MAGA PACs, some of them committing even more crimes and getting another pardon...

    They need to throw things into the air to distract people. Some of their planned events are polling negative (the Minnesota Invasion, Healthcare Subsidies) and they don't have anything else so instead we get more random tariffs and more random military threats because they are something that the Executive Branch can do unilaterally and suddenly to ensure that they grab the next news cycle.

    This is the "Flood the Zone" tactic that Steve Bannon said that they were using during the first admin.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If this was something that was serious and planned then we would have started hearing about this months ago as they started preparing the lies and the misinformation seeding into social media via paid/artificial content creators or otherwise useful idiots. This is probably the strongest indication that Greenland is a distraction and not a real move. This is probably the case with Canada too, in my opinion.

    He did start babbling about it early in his second failed term. And I did see attempts to sanewash this talk about Greenland in places like The Atlantic, for example.

    But yeah, the messaging on this has been extremely scattershot.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    He talked about buying Greenland as early as his first term. Don't know if it was major news in USA, but here in Denmark it was pretty big news, mostly because it would literally not make any sense for anyone to sell Greenland. Might as well buy it from Azerbaijan as you might buy it from Denmark.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Basically a DDOS attack on our attention span and journalists capacities

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    That is it exactly.

    Even 24 hour news only has so many seconds of time to put things on the screen and you only have so many hours to try to understand what is happening in the world.

    There news gets chopped up into TikTok or Tweet-sized memes which contributes to the distortion (consider a Tweet vs a Last Week Tonight show on any topic), each of those memes are evolved and signal boosted by social media and out the other end of the algorithm pops content that maximally compels your attention which is flavored with the bias from the recommendation algorithm (i.e. What ever bias Elon/Zuck/ByteDance wants to introduce: suppressing Gaza protest coverage, promoting alt-right viewpoints, etc)

    Look at the screen time on your phone, what percentage of your day is spent being told what you're going to read next by an algorithm?

    The motivations of the algorithm are not to maximize your understanding or knowledge or tether to reality, they are to make you scroll one more page. People can see how effective large AI systems, like LLMs, can be when deployed at scale.

    Recommendation algorithms are also machine learning, but with less pre-IPO hype and they are just as powerful and are deployed at a scale where almost every person on Earth has their world view affected by them.

    They have to go or be severely regulated. They can be useful when they recommend you books or movies, but when they're the gatekeeper of information for the majority of the population then they are informational weapons of mass destruction and should be regulated as such.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Not enough challenge. We "liberate" "armed" countries from their "oppressors" and go into the very bad places and make things "better"

    We're now raiding Sunny Side Daycare. There's no fairytale there.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Conservatives seem to oscillate between isolationism and aggressive intervention. They're both from the stance of American primacy, either using our military for our benefit and to enforce our wishes or saying the world has nothing to offer us we need and that we're better off not extending effort or energy on the rest of the world.

    Currently our conservatives are swinging towards isolationism, which is why the anti immigration rhetoric and pulling out of international organizations was very popular. That's not compatible with a plan to forcibly annex another country.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Because Greenland is full of white people. If it were full of brown people, especially if they immigrate to the US frequently enough and “steal our jobs”, we might be hearing a different tune.

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    Americans, if you're listening...

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    I think most people don't want to throw their life away killing a guy that already has one foot in the grave.

    We could probably just send him a dozen hamburgers and he'd finally have that heart attack we've been waiting for.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for high cholesterol before, but these are strange times.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    High cholesterol, a blood clot, a stroke, an ugly fall, a heart attack... I'm rooting for so many fatal conditions right now.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The immorality of killing someone besides, and making him a martyr to his supporters that would make them more dangerous, there is a legal process to remove a president.

    We think that this administration is driven by Trump, but once removed, the people who are behind much of his policies are still there. Venezuela is comparable at the moment. It is still controlled by Maduro’s administration.

    The world needs to treat America as a pariah despite the economic pain. It needs to find a way to thrive without it.

    America needs a revolution that demands reform in all three branches as well as the voting process. Our leaders and judges, given their privilege of power, should be subject ti term limits. First past the post should be replaced by a comprehensive voting process such as ranked choice.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    People keep using the word martyr, but I'm not sure he can become that. There's no ideology bringing these people together, the disruption that he's causing is the unifying force.

    If he's gone, there's no clear contender to continue that disruption, so there would be tons of infighting. I don't think there's a path to dominance from that kind of chaos. Trump only managed to get elected with the support of broken systems, which are being dismantled.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There's no ideology bringing these people together

    Agreed, but there's something that's like an ideology. They don't know what it is, but it comes in a red ball cap and waves a lot of flags. Usually from a giant truck. Whatever those things are are the "ideology". And his murder would definitely calcify a lot of that.

    I mean, it's a cult. Plain and simple. What happens when a cult leader is killed? Besides the inevitable factional war?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Disruption is the thing that's like ideology in this instance. There's no path for a cult member to disrupt things enough to become the new cult leader. There's the chain of succession or whatever it's called, and that relies on the legitimacy of the system to be used. If that legitimacy is disrupted, the only people that can take the lead position will be the people controlling the military, which will be nobody in governance because the commander in chief will be dead.

    This is one reason I guess the ICE budget is getting juice, so that when that change in leadership comes there is some force behind the change.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It’s really not that hard to create a highly contagious flu with a 50% IFR. Just do the initial release around people likely to interact with the inner circle and you’d wipe most of the old ones out. Plus once it got out you’d be eliminating anti-science people at a 5 or 10:1 ratio, improving the future prospects for the planet as a whole. Some really angry molecular biologist who got fired by RFK Jr. could do it for $50k in a limited space.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    The real evil behind the throne is 40 years old.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    *throne*

    And yes, but he's got the charisma of a week old sandwich left on top of the trash bin.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Is there a word for typoing a different homophone even though you knew damn well which one was correct?


    Anyway, my point was, waiting for him to die of old age is not a solution. Positive action must be taken to get rid of him.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I think most people don’t want to throw their life away killing a guy that already has one foot in the grave.

    I 100% think you are right about this. I don't think most people want look inwards and acknowledge this fear.

    It's not just one guy though... I bet the German people thought the same in the 1930's, and look how many people died because of their reluctance to being more active against the nazis.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    This idiot still has a 40% approval rating here. Europe you gotta apply more economic pain to us, I already see headlines about how leaders are leaning toward negotiating. Fuck that, bazooka us in the face already!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I guarantee you the majority of people who need to be "listening" are very specifically not listening. They are pretending everything's fine, and they'll keep doing that until it's time to vote republican again in November. They will likely not see this story.

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  • [–] 88 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    His legacy will be that of the most embarrassing thing to ever happen to America. No joke- This “man” will die being remembered as a cowardly little moron that threw temper tantrums when he didn’t get what he never deserved in the first place.

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  • [–] 88 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    20 years ago, many of us thought George W. Bush's legacy would be that he was the most embarrassing president to ever happen to America...

    Never forget that Trump is the most embarrassing president that we've ever had yet...

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    And prior to that, we had Ronnie Raygun. W was embarrassing on a lot of levels, but Ronnie Raygun had the most criminal administration in history (at least so far) and the things they did set us on the path we are still on....

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Watching Futurama and hearing them say that Nixon was the worst president in history AND alternate history is hard to watch now. The writers get a lot of things right, but Trump completely breaks that joke in a heartbreaking way.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    My guess is that it had something to do with the age of the writers? Nixon really broke the mold, I guess.

    A lot of things happened in the 60s and 70s that broke a lot of cherished myths of post-war America. Seeing JFK and RFK getting assassinated. MLK getting assassinated. Pentagon Papers. An incredibly painful economy. Oil embargoes. Then Nixon and Watergate...then the Church Committee. I'm assuming if they were to do a word association, they'd probably associate Nixon with all or most of this stuff. It definitely made an impression on the boomer mindset.

    But Ronnie Raygun was far worse than Nixon. I think at that point, the boomers (and their parents) were just sick of all the bad news and conservative corruption and mostly tuned it out. The media mostly turned away entirely from the Iran/Contra affair.

    And of course Bush Senior and W were not exactly great.

    And now there's Taco...

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If you ever try to tell someone the publicly released undisputed facts of the Iran-Contra affair, you will come across like a conspiracy nut because what happened is so utterly absurdly criminal and yet there were virtually no consequences for anyone involved. One fall guy went to jail for a while and then came out as a Fox News correspondent.

    "The famously conservative president of the United States illegally sold weapons to a radical Islamist terrorist organization in Iran (the US's mortal enemy in the middle east) and then used the proceeds to fund Central American guerrilla fighters that were also narcoterrorists? And nothing much ever came of it? Hah, as if!"

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Yeah. I mean I understand that for a very large population - the boomers - the Watergate thing was extremely formative for the time. But when someone tries to tell me that Iran/Contra was not as bad as Watergate? I just don't get that. It's just like what you say - it sounds like some wild-eyed black helicopter thing when you read it out loud. It also reads like a rather salacious Hollywood plot when you add in that Ollie North, decades later - in 2025 - married the secretary (Fawn Hall) that helped him shred documents...Fawn Hall also dated Rob Lowe because he saw her in the trial...and she was offered lots of money to pose nude.

    Ever since Watergate, a -gate is added to every scandal, even after Iran/Contra, even though Iran/Contra seems remarkably worse. I guess at that point, the boomers and the Silent Generation were jaded and had PTSD by so many things that came before, but...wow. Also, Gen X is a much smaller set of people, so their opinion on it or impressions didn't really matter, and Gen Y was much too young or not born.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Bush the I went to war for oil. No "WMD" bullshit cover story even. Just "we need that oil for profits, go send your children to die". I stupidly thought that would wake people up.

    Ai yi yi.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Well, if they weren't going to wake up after Iran/Contra...or the allegations that Ronnie Raygun worked to purposefully fuck up the release of the Iran hostages [1] so that he could do it during his Inauguration...but no.

    They elected Bush Senior into office even though he was VP in the most criminal administration in history. I guess people could tell themselves that he somehow knew nothing about all the crimes, but...

    [1] https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43368900/reagan-iran-hostages/

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The irony is that he was the President that followed an incredibly accomplished, intelligent, and thoughtful man. I disagreed with Obama on a lot, from policy to style, but there was no doubt that he had great charisma and intelligence. To be followed by that shit show TWICE must hurt.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    "If you don't give me a Nobel Peace Prize I'll go to war with you."

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    The proof is that the entire upper tier of the Executive Branch has completely lost its shit and is crewed by morons. Last time around there were adults in the room that reeled in his worst impulses even though he'd sneak a gainer in once in a while. This time? They're a clown car stuffed with ideologues, racists, and fools with the brake pedal ripped out.

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