This cannot possibly hold up in court. You cant just advertise a product and then be like "*but actually we might be lying about some or all of these things"??? What the fuck are you selling then

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[–] 265 points 9 months ago (23 children)

Do not buy that laptop. If they cut corners on the fucking description, who knows what else they'll cut corners on.

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago (20 children)

    I literally cannot think of the last time I saw a Samsung (or Sony for that matter) laptop in the wild.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    How'd you know it was Samsung? Honestly I don't know if I've ever seen a Samsung laptop even through a screen

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago*

    I think they’re assuming it’s a Samsung computer because it mentions phone link can connect to a Galaxy smartphone. Seeing as that’s the name of the program provided by Microsoft (which will connect to any smartphone) I’m assuming whatever ad copy this shitty llm ate to regurgitate this slop used a Galaxy phone as an example

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    It specifically calls out Galaxy smartphones.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, but it also admits that it is AI generated. And Phone Link is the name used by a few different services, the most common made by Microsoft directly, so specifying Galaxy phones over Android on general is suspect.

    That being said, AI doesn't usually pull out quite such specific and relevant terminology unless prompted to include it.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    For anyone who wants something else, KDE Connect works outside of KDE, and even works on Windows. You don't need to use Microsoft's version.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    And it is easier to setup. For phone link you have to scan QR code, wait for it to pair etc... And with KDE connect you click pair on one device and on second you accept. Easier and safer

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I take my Vaio on the go from time to time but similarly don't often see much else but Macbooks. People with tablets and keyboards are becoming a more common sight though.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    I've understood things about Macbooks back in the early 2010s when I saw a manager at my job holding his Air, open, by the corner while gesticulating. A contemporary Vaio would've snapped in half from such treatment.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Anecdotally, I just picked mine up in a similar fashion and despite being uncomfortable from the imbalance, it seems to hold up fine. Might depend on the gesticulation factor - I gave it a 'tree in the breeze' sort of motion but not a 'wacky inflatable tube man' kind haha.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Idk how Vaio are built these days, but Macbooks have been famously made from an aluminium slab by cutting out the inside space, for a long time now. This ensures solid structural integrity. Plus the display hinge is very robust too, doesn't swing easily.

    I've had a Vaio back in the late 00s, it was slapped together from separate plastic parts and creaked with any movement.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Oh I couldn't speak on their modern build quality as mine is from 2014, back when Sony still owned Vaio. I wouldn't choose it over a Macbook to use as a racquet, but that wasn't the intended use case then nor would it be now.

    I did use an Acer laptop for a bit once and that thing must have been damaged or something because the hinge was so loose it would slowly open up when I was typing. Eventually I remember propping it against something to keep from constantly adjusting it. Fortunately my Vaio doesn't suffer such an issue.

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  • [–] 106 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Send us $1300 and we will send you... something?

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Amazon’s “Starfish” project is scraping the net for small businesses and posting their products on Amazon, with AI generated information.

    Imagine getting a sale from a storefront you didn’t consent to being listed on, with an inaccurate description of your product.

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  • [–] 89 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I recently ran into this issue with a coffee pot. I was specifically hunting for a coffee pot with an adjustable temperature warmer. Ordered one that specifically stated that in the description, only to receive a coffee pot that did not have that feature. Checked the model number on the box versus the listing, and it's the same. Then I saw the fine print: we are not responsible for inaccurate product information.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago

    we are not responsible for inaccurate product information.

    I have half a packet of mints in my car. Going to put them up on eBay and sell them as immortality drugs. Well see how that works out.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What country? In many, this is straight up false advertising and you're entitled to a refund.

    At their expense for shipping, no less. Nothing that a charge back won't fix - with all the evidence ready to go) https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/problem-with-a-product-or-service-you-bought/repair-replace-refund-cancel

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What's keeping them from checking the info before publishing it, though?

    Oh, right. Greed.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    "windows 11" "smooth computing experience" yep that's AI alright.

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  • [–] 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Sales bs has been totally disconnected from actual specs for a long time. Like shopping for hardware a few years ago, I could not rely on any sales garbage for info. I only looked for verifiable model numbers and then looked them up on linux-hardware.org because those scans list everything the Linux kernel discovered.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 9 months ago

    I know as a reseller the sales stuff tends to be useless. Like it doesn't tell me every feature or how to use the device but for really old products it ends up being the last thing around

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    Was just arguing about the usefulness of AI as a tool with someone on here, and he said that AI consistently making mistakes is a great way to improve critical thinking skills, because it challenges you to figure it out on your own after AI fails.

    So what I'm saying is, that was an absolute rubbish take, and shit like this is going to be the downfall of the internet. The internet was such a wonderful, useful tool, and now look at how they massacred my boy 😞

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Brilliant 😂

    It's the post truth world so many wanted.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago

    Makes me wonder what that world would be like. People will have to realize that they got something wrong or misread instructions. Like they can't just think "this is how things work" all the time

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago*

    If you can't give me exact, accurate details about your own fucking product, then I will not be buying your product. If it even actually exists, which I would now be doubtful of.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There's almost as many words in the disclaimer than the generated description!

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    we strive to deliver accurate information

    🤔 what do they think "strive" means?

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Online shopping just became gacha

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    That's just illegal in many countries for a start

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Sucks that the US is outlawing ai regulation

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The product information still needs to be accurate though. You don't need to restrict the use of AI, this falls under consumer protection.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    or we can simply apply false advertising if the ai gets something wrong, like how that lawyer that disbarred for using ai to write his court papers and cited a case that never happened

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, when the other commenters mentioned consumer protection laws, they meant that it would be a case of false advertising.

    There's also been a similar case before, where Air Canada got sued, because their chatbot promised to a customer that he could apply for one of their bonus programs after the flight, which then got denied by Air Canada: https://www.mccarthy.ca/en/insights/blogs/techlex/moffatt-v-air-canada-misrepresentation-ai-chatbot

    In that particular case, it might have helped, if the chatbot had a disclaimer that it's lying, but only because Air Canada provided the truthful information elsewhere on their webpage. That's not gonna be the case for such product descriptions...

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Do they know what "strive" means?

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Truth in advertising was killed off in the 80's.. They can basically say whatever they want now and little ever gets done.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Imagine being so lazy that you can't even write a description of your own product to sell. How do you not know your own product?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I've got a bridge to sell. It's about yay high and goes all the way across. It is colored #9aae07.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Sorry, that color is copyrighted by Pantone, please cease and desist.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That one's from the Adobe Color Palette.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    In case anyone was wondering, it's Best Buy

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    LLMs are a disease.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I do not get it, how much effort would a product description possibly be to instead use ai? This is not a one off, even before these llm ai systems a lot of instruction manuals in cheap crap you buy were written by machines, very badly.

    They are presumably paying people to be executives and board members and managers, but they can't be bothered to pay someone a few hours to write a product description accurately? We have all the wrong people in charge in this country. Because they can not even write an accurate product description they chose to.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, this is on Best Buy?!

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    The idea that a company could sell anything while giving out inaccurate information about the product up-front strikes me as utterly bizarre and unimaginable. at least in germany that would be considered "fraud" and definitely you'd have a right to get your money back.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

    I recently tried asking Amazon's AI a simple question about a product that had hundreds of reviews. It was a cheap thing, and I admit I was too lazy to verify the info so I went with what the AI said and bought it, and guess what the AI was just completely wrong and now Amazon is paying for me to ship it back.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Lpt: don't buy shit on Amazon. Ever. Never. Never ever ever.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah! I'll just visit one of the many mom-and-pop sto... oh

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    'don't buy from that conglomerate, buy from this one, silly'

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I mean if you're buying on Taobao or Aliexpress, at least you're only buying from 1 conglomerate. If you buy on Amazon, you're almost certainly buying from Aliexpress, except you get to pay a middleman too.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago

    But it's on Amazon to expect you to rely on the information their AI gives. I plan my programs how people act not how I want them to act

    I'm definitely more eBay luckily only time I deal with AI is if I'm writing a description for a new in box toy

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You cunts gotta get used to name and shaming instead of just posting and forgetting

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