Post title at limit, but meant to be peak tactile feedback in computer storage.

The space saved from being thin made it bad for looking up and finding a specific disk within a stack, tho, as it couldn't fit an end label

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[–] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    And a satisfying but not too jarring "thunk" when they seat in correctly. Plus, the activity light let you know it was safe/not safe to hit the eject button.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Remember how sometimes you'd put the disk in and you could hear the floppy part spinning for a fraction of a second to line up with, I guess the motor head, before it fully clunked in? That shit was peak.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Brrr-click!

    Yep lol.

    And you could tell by the sound if your read/write operation was going to fail for whatever reason.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    R-R-R-R-R-(sigh)-A

    I don't even remember what (F)ail did

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Didn't Abort just cancel trying to read that sector, while Fail would cancel the entire operation?

    Nope, I looked it up. Abort would completely abort the whole thing, while Fail was supposed to return an error code to the program so that it could decide what to do next. Like Ignore but less crashy.

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  • [–] 89 points 10 months ago* (18 children)

    "didn't take too much space"

    Someone never installed an operating system from floppies. Win98 was 38 floppies. Heaven help you if you didn't notice you only have 37 disks until halfway through the install.

    A media format with 1.44mb per disk is not conducive to space saving even back in the day.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    To be fair, by 1998 something as big as win98 wasn't supposed to be shipped in floppies. Then again, win95 was available as 27 disks

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Windows 95 on CD-ROM included three music videos, presumably to show off the capabilities of the format.

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    Those distros even have a GUI? Amiga Workbench on 720k all the way! 😁

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ok, you forgot the Kickstart boot disk loading the Kernel before. But yes, the Amiga was amazingly resource efficient.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I learned a lot about the Amiga reading Ars Technica's history of the Amiga series. Such a shame that that computer never reached Brazil

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Don't fret. Only snobby kids whos parents bought it for them had them. Because they wanted to one-up you. And they didn't even appreciate it. Like I did my C128D that had a built-in floppy drive.

    Fuck you, Csabika.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I see it and rise it to Atari ST TOS (256 KiB), GEM included.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    3.5 disks were my fidget spinners before the term existed. pulling back the slide and letting it snap shut kept my idle brain occupied for hours while waiting for stuff on the computer to happen.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Flashbacks of flipping around a 5¼" floppy disks that were actually floppy and manually spinning the cassette tape wheels while something is loading.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    Growing up, my dad used to download a lot of games off BBSes for me and my brother. He would save them on 3.5 floppies and then label what game was on each one. I've got fond memories of flipping through his box of floppies seeing what new games he had for us to play.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    OP they really were. Back in the day when I was a sysadmin I would keep a bunch of tools on a floppy that I would carry around as I did user support.

    It was like carrying around a toolbox to work on things.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The 3.5” disk was designed as a consumer product by Sony, whose industrial design is second to none. (Compare the 5¼ “ and 8” floppies, which were designed by IBM engineers and only intended for use by technical specialists.)

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Not all drives had buttons. There were workstations (Sun Sparcs) which had. motorized eject mechanisms.

    Used 10 of these workstations to copy my freshly downloaded Slackware Linux to the stack of 60 floppies it took. (Twice, so I wrote 120 disks, as at least one of the disks would have read errors on average). Each time one of the Sparcs was done, it did spit out the disk and I'd insert a new one, labeling the old one with what was written on screen.

    Ah the hours I spent downloading and installing 100-200 Megabytes of operating systems.

    Labeling the disks would just be a sequence number, I'd label the disk boxes with the content.

    Late 90s memories....

    At home, I'd install the os by inserting each of these disks into my PC with16MBytes of RAM.

    All that took about a day of work.

    You kids don't know how good you have it, we had to fetch out Xfree86 mode lines in a wooden bucket from outside in the snow, barefoot.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    We didn't stack them though. We kept them in those boxes with a pointless lock, and flipped through them.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Mine lived in the original cardboard boxes

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    For similar reasons, I feel like Gameboy Advanced cartridges were the optimal size for handheld consoles. Switch cartridges are so tiny and fragile.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    SD cards are perfect size. Micro SD feel fragile.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Switch cartridges also taste terrible, so simultaneously you need to put them somewhere to be sure you don't lose them while switching cases AND you don't want to make the mistake of finding out the hard way because you needed your hands free.

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  • [+] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Btw, how much data fits a 5.25 magnetic disk when using modern tech?

    Edit: I did the math. With the same storage density as modern LTO-10 tapes, a 5.25" disk could hold around 31GB, while a 3.5" one could hold around 15GB.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Zip disks at least the 100’s had the same tactile qualities, little door to fidget and label space all while having that satisfying clicking sound each time you used them.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Not that I don't agree but... I'd take Mini Disc over them. Really similar but smaller -but not to the point of losing tactility or nice labels- and I love the eject mechanism of some players/recorders. Amazing mix of cassette tapes (usability) and CDs (capacity, non-linearity...), kinda late to the party.

    UMDs are cool too, thought not as much IMHO.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Still remember my friend making a copy of doom 2 for me using pkzip... I think it took about 10 disks.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    NES roms were the way to go. You could pack the emulator + a couple of games in a single 1.44MB floppy no problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I liked the sound they made. People have been using them to make music for ages. Best is still imperial march played on 48 floppy drives (or thereabouts).

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Didn't take much space, lol I remember the huge cases people used to buy to store them all.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    This and CD caddys. Nothing like spending a full minute swapping out the cd in the caddy, then getting that satisfying chunk when the mechanics kick in.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    I never liked cd caddies. The push button, wait for motor to eject, then push button, wait for motor to load was dissociative.

    The floppy drive was a direct mechanical link between the button and eject.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    sad minidisk noises

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  • [+] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn’t compare to the satisfying click of playing with the forbidden spring loaded metal door.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Certainly better than the 5 1/4" floppies they replaced.

    But, installing big programs, like Photoshop, off a stack of 30 or 40 disks was a hassle. Imagine Photoshop fitting in 40 MB, tho.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    But many 3.5" disks had end labels that you could read in a stack

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I had a cool little leather wallet that held 2 3.5" disks. Felt like a pro every time i flipped it open.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    And then the button jams 😞

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    MicroSD cards fit these requirements too

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    No, but SD/MMC do. Micro SD are so small they're awkward to carry and store.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I disagree, MicroSD is my external storage of choice. Their size makes them ideal to carry and store but you might need to rethink how you go about doing it.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    In a tactile sense, MicroSD are worse in every sense. I have a case to store some of mine, which I have to open gently unless I want half of them to pop out and fall on the floor. A different storage, which I 3D printed, fixes that problem but has another, which is picking up a single one and not 3 at a time, since they're kept in a line with roughly 2mm of space between them

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    CDs (and derivatives) have all of these features as well and orders of magnitude more capacity.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (5 children)

    I fail to see how this is better than CDs or DVDs. They had the same advantages you mention here. You can label them. They're super thin and easily stacked, especially with a spindle. They also easily inserted and removed from the drive at the press of a button. All that, and with a way higher storage capacity.

    The only advantave a 3.5 floppy had over them was being able to lock the disk from being written to with the little switch on the diskette but also still write to it if you ever needed. With CD/DVD, you needed special disks that could be written to once, or even more special disks to be able to re-write to them. And I do believe they had a limited number of re-writes you could even make.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago

    3.5's hard plastic immediately makes it "feel" better to handle, as it also protects the actual disk inside. Putting in and removing a 3.5 from a computer was also faster than the later disks. If you think about it, CD/DVD's jewel cases were the equivalent of the floppy's casing

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    The fact that 3.5" floppies were self-sealing to make handling irrelevant (put your greasy fingers on any surface you fucking want) is another obvious advantage.

    There are more. Before putting something on blast, really run it through forwards and backwards. You might be surprised at how many pros/cons fall out of a genuine consideration.

    Sorry for the wording of my original post... it WAS needlessly adversarial.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe consider for more than 0.2 seconds before making such sweeping assertions.

    What an unnecessarily adversarial, and rude, reply. Maybe consider for more than 0.2 seconds if being an asshole is necessary.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Oh look! Another nostalgia bullshit from someone who clearly never used a fucking floppy disk.

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