And all of the failures that plagued the 13 and 14 gens. That was the main reason I switched to AMD. My 13th gen CPU was borked and had to be kept underclocked.

Even within the same socket family, looking at you lga1151, can you run into compatibility problems.

As a person that generally buys either mid-tier stuff or the flagship products from a couple years ago, it got pretty fucking ridiculous to have to figure out which socket made sense for any given intel chip. The apparently arbitrary naming convention didn't help.

I just read the other day that at least one motheboard manufacturer is bringing back AM4 since DDR4 is getting cheaper than DDR5, even with the "this isn't even manufactured anymore" price markup. That's only even possible because of how much long-term support AMD gave that socket.

Or the 1200 different versions of CPUs. We just got some new Dell machines for our DR site last year and the number of CPU options was overwhelming. Is it really necessary for that many different CPUs?

The 2600k was exceptionally good and was relevant well past the normal upgrade timeframes.

Really it only got left behind because of its 4C/8T limit as everything started supporting lots of threads instead of just a couple, and just being a 2nd Generation i7.

Meltdown and Spectre? Those also applied to AMD CPUs as well, just to a lesser degree (or rather, they had their own flavor of similar vulnerabilities). I think they even recently found a similar one for ARM chips...

Oh hell naw, the issues with Intel came up much sooner.

Ever since Ryzen came out, Intel just stagnated.

And a constantly changing socket so you have to get a new motherboard every time.

I mean the i7s had SMT. You had to pay extra for SMT, whereas AMD started giving it to you on every SKU except a few low-end ones.

I'm personally hoping more 3rd parties start making affordable RISC V. But yeah I agree, having Intel stick aroundbwould be good for people as you said.

Not only that, but (as an American) I do want the US to have some fab capability. A strong Intel is in our national security interest.

I initially got the 13 series, got a 14 series as the warranty replacement. Even with updated bios firmware the 14 series also began suffering from the same instability issues, sooner than the 13. Switched after that because two chips in a row, different generations is not a small mistake. Just happy I didn't have to pay for that 14 series only to see it have the same problem

Yep, I kept the 3770k until I bought a 7800x3d. It lasted that long, and I gave my son the 3770k system and it was still overkill to play the games he wanted. Rocket League, Minecraft, fortnite etc...

7700k here I will upgrade from (likely to AMD) one day. But still almost zero reason to.

I still have my 3770k but it's in storage.

I bought a 1700X and was using that until upgrading to a 3700X, which I'm still using today in my main gaming desktop.

I think you'll be fine!

Now I want to see that one. But, I refuse to use online generative AI.

To be fair, I upgraded my main desktop directly from a Phenom II X4 840(?) to a Ryzen 1700x without owning any Bulldozer stuff in between.

(I did later buy a couple of used Opteron 6272s, but that's different for multiple reasons.)

I've got an FX 8350, sure AMD fell behind during that time but it was by no means a bad CPU imo. Main PC's got a 7800X3D now but my FX system is still working just fine to this day, especially since upgrading to an SSD and 16GB RAM some years ago. It can technically even run Cyberpunk 2077 with console like frame rates on high settings.

My first AMD was a 386-40. Had several of their CPUs since. But there were a few years there that it was real tough to pick AMD.

Wish I knew about that trick back then! I shelled out for an X4...

Oh man, I'd forgotten all about 3dnow!

TBF, AMD has been pretty rock-solid for CPUs for the last 5-6 years. Intel... not so much.

My last two computers have been AMD, the last time I built an Intel system was ~2016

Intel Pentium D era sucked compared to the Athlon 64 II x2 from what I remember. I had an Athlon 64 3000+ just before the dual core era. Athlon 64 era was great

Oh yeah I had one of those before my 4790k