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[–] 54 points 10 months ago

What. The. Fuck?

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  • [–] 198 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Kidnapped. The word is kidnapped.

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    [–] 80 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    So he truely believes he runs the whole world..... If anyone is about to start ww3 anytime soon ..... it's him.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Literally, this has been standard US imperialism for the better part of a century.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    The US inherited it from the British, there were people already living here. They have been invading sovereign nations in the name of the US since independence.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    When exactly do you think the US colonial rebellion happened?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The 1700s. Whereas the last skirmishes of the Indian Wars ended after WWI. Europeans invaded the sovereign nations that were already here and then the US, after independence, continued to expand westward into places where people already lived.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    It ended in 1783, howbout you go reread my comment and do some math.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Howbout you go reread their comment and do some math.

    The Wounded Knee Massacre which ended tribal resistance and completed the conquest of their land happened in 1890, and then the "Renegade period" went on until 1924.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Holy fucking shit too many of you talk about shit you do not understand. The US is still occupying those lands and intends to eradicate Native American nations. If you also actually read my comment, you'd see that the person above was trying to explain something (inadequately) that was outside the scope of what I was addressing.

    Fucking some of you have to develop humility jfc.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    The US is still occupying those lands and intends to eradicate Native American nations.

    No shit. That's what they said, and you started arguing with unclear language. What were you addressing exactly?

    Fucking some of you have to develop humility jfc.

    Learn to communicate your points, your audience isn't dumb, your language is.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Jesus Christ, you're not the first person to call this an "audience." Reminds me of men who call their internet confrontations, "debates."

    The commenter who I made fun of here brought up -- and incorrectly ignored the specificities of US imperialism -- a topic that was not relevant to my comment on US imperialism in the past century when they wanted to talk about US imperialism "inherited" from the British Empire over two centuries ago; apparently without even knowing when the Rebellion was.

    My snide comments came with the assumption that my "audience" could think for themselves and figure out why someone would respond that way to what they said. Of course, I do not write effectively for an "audience" who does not.

    I won't read your response, I write these when I'm bored or waiting in line.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Literally, this has been standard US imperialism for the better part of a century.

    The US inherited it from the British, there were people already living here. They have been invading sovereign nations in the name of the US since independence.

    a topic that was not relevant to my comment on US imperialism in the past century

    It is relevant, they were agreeing with your sentiment and extending the timeline by correctly asserting that it goes further back than a century.

    apparently without even knowing when the Rebellion was.

    When exactly do you think the US colonial rebellion happened?

    How is that apparent? And what point do you think you're making exactly? Do you think because they rebelled and started their own empire that somehow negates that they inherited it from the empire they expanded from?

    The commenter who I made fun of

    My bad, I assumed you're having a conversation in good faith.

    I won't read your response, I write these when I'm bored or waiting in line.

    Same, and I'm bored of your childish, quick to anger, holier than thou attitude. Develop some humility.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I would argue we’re already in WW3 it’s just not a full on “hot” world war quiet yet, this might do it though

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It won't. Venezuela isn't a member of BRICS or anything. They're a member of OPEC, but that's an economic cartel, not a military alliance. They don't have the necessary allies to come to their aid to turn it into a world war.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Maybe Greenland but Canada no way. Canada will put up a fierce fight and a LOT of Americans will defect to fight for democracy rather than live under a pedofile king and his circus of Nazis

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    I see Canada more likely to be like Afghanistan or Vietnam. I definitely don’t believe one strike would win anything. I was raised by a delta special forces Vietnam vet green beret and he would constantly say NEVER underestimate guerrilla warfare. I just don’t think they would be subdued easily and I do think they would be skilled with guerrilla tactics and withstanding the cold. I think the friendship between Canada and America would be a huge blow to troop morale. I don’t think Mexico would fall easily either and 99% of Americans in the west anyway have Mexican friends(very bad for morale). I think Mexico would put up a fight and I think both countries would wear down the moral of the military and cost way too much. The only effective strategy would be to do an internal coup after heavily propagandizing the populations of the countries and I do see that as a possibility for Canada

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    "We invaded sovereign soil, going after oil

    Taking countries is a hobby paid for by the oil lobby

    Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan

    And Ahmadinejad say they coming for Iran

    They only love the rich and how they loathe the poor

    If I say any more they might be at my door."

    Killer Mike - Reagan

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    All is good...

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    This is insane..

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Guess the USA really is a rabid dog that we have to put down 🤷‍♀️

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    glassed, the correct term is to glass

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  • [–] 112 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Harris didn’t spend enough time taking about her policies though.

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  • [+] -10 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Not relevant she was also an american imperialist she made that clear.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago* (11 children)

    Yes, the fascist orange Nazi pedophile with dementia was a much better choice.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Did I say anything even remotely like that?

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    We're in a thread talking about the only other choice we had for president vs Trump, because of what Trump is doing as president, and you're going "well aCkShYuALLy" about it.

    When faced with two choices (which itself is a problem that needs to be addressed), the American people picked the fascist pedophile over "woman who laughs weird" (something the GOP actually tried to use against her during their campaign).

    she was also an american imperialist she made that clear.

    If you've got any proof of that claim, lay it out for us. As someone who does not pledge allegiance to any politician in any way, shape, or form whatsoever, I would be very interested to see what you've got.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago*

    No you are in a thread about numerous war crimes that led to the kidnapping of a country's leader and overthrow of a sovereign nation. As well as the plundering of the wealth for an entire country.

    The well aCtUALly here is people sidelining the war crimes discussion into an endless debate about red and blue. The factv is basically every US president since WW2 has been guilty of war crimes and all americans can do is argue about red and blue.

    She made it clear she was an imperialist by refusing to condemn a genocide that was being carried out with US weapons and sold to the genocidal regime under her tenure as vice president.

    To be clear Trump is a pedophile rapist war criminal as well. Please dont dismiss me as an apologist for either of them.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    If you've got any proof of that claim, lay it out for us

    How about her talking about making sure that rhe USA would have the most lethal armed forces in the planet?

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    People who didn't vote for Harris didn't choose Trump, they just rejected Harris.

    You don't get to propose Nazi light as an alternative to Nazi pro and demand people vote for her, which is what happened.

    If she was a viable candidate, people would have voted for her. He won by the toss of a coin, because people wanted neither.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    only thing this does is introduces the precedent for other countries to do the same to him.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Thumbs crossed for Nambia to do the funniest thing of all time

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Would be absolutely amazing for some 3rd world country, to just casually imprison Trump, stating "We'll control USA for now". If no one intervenes in this, then no one should intervene in that.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Honestly, having oil reserves is a national security issue at this point. Until they find a way to cheaply ruin oil reserves, no country is safe from the US.

    If you want to defeat us, peace hasn’t worked but starvation sure as hell will.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Shameful of Trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Such a crude justification for taking over a country

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I am not seeing enough Star Wars memes in my feed after this.

    Maduro Leia and Trump Vader would be a start.

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  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    As I've already replied elsewhere where you(?)'ve also spammed this comment, Trump doesn't have friends.

    Trump has parasites who take advantage of his stupidity, narcissism, and pettiness, and now also his dementia. And I suppose at some point, before he was so far gone, he might have had marks he was talking advantage of.

    He's psychologically incapable of friendship; he'll betray anyone without a second thought the instant they're no longer of benefit to him, or someone convinces him to, which these days doesn't take much effort.

    And he'll die before (knowingly) helping anyone for free.

    If he can't give Trump something shiny enough, Maduro is fucked, no matter how much of a friend he might believe him to be.

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  • [+] -35 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

    However it means Trump accidentally did something right, which will make him even more insufferable. And he might get ideas of doing it to other countries.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Would you describe China attacking North Korea or Cambodia or another SE Asian dictatorship to depose their leadership as "accidentally doing something right"?

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    People dragging you for supporting the fall of North Korea is some unhinged tankie shit.

    Stay sane; ignore the .ml brigade.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The how does matter. You can appreciate the removal of a despot and still oppose unilateral regime change by force--especially one so explicitly motivated by resource exploitation. This is very different from the UN-sanctioned and NATO-led intervention that deposed Gaddafi.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I completely agree with you on all of those points. The present Venezuela invasion is totally heinous in my book.

    Acting like Xi invading North Korea is the same thing as VZ is where I totally disagree with you.

    Assuming the Chinese were to make a modicum of effort to prevent mass famine, I see the possible humanitarian boon as outweighing the international-relations consequences. Or to frame it differently, the crimes against humanity that North Korea has committed give China a valid casus belli.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    How can we justify staying in Venezuela?

    Calling for immediate snap elections, then returning Maduro for trial in Venezuela? Okay. That’d be one thing.

    But basically annexing the country?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Staying would be a really, really bad idea. Venezuelans massively hate Maduro, but a military occupation would be a different thing. The best course of action would be to allow Edmundo González, the closest thing to a legitimately elected president, to return and take over leadership until further political reform can be done, followed by new elections.

    Unfortunately this is Trump we're talking about. He'll find a way to fuck it up no doubt.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    You mean Maduro's boots? There's a reason 90% of Venezuelans out there are celebrating regardless of what happens next. Taking out a dictator is a good thing even if it ends in civil war.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    There's a reason 90% of Venezuelans out there are celebrating regardless of what happens next.

    [Citation needed]

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    See these picture from "exiles" in Florida being shared everywhere.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    There are around 29M citizens in Venezuela. And around 330,000 people of Venezuelans decent in Florida. Even if 100% of the ladder agreed, that wouldn't even account for 1.5% of the Venezuelan population. Why does their opinion matter more than that of the 29M people who are actually there?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    You're getting downvoted, but what I've heard of the occasion is basically this. It's upsetting because Trump absolutely did something horrendous - but this time to a horrendous person. It's definitely a case of him trying to apply abuses to justify abuses.

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