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[–] 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

There’s a store like half a block from my apartment, so I just treat it like an external pantry.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (21 children)

    I keep a list that is shared/synced with my s/o via a self-hosted KitchenOwl instance. I've been slowly porting my recipes over to it as well. Overall very satisfied and it works well.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Yep, this method works really well in a busy schedule.

    My spouse and I use iOS so we share lists that we dictate to: "add onions to the grocery list" or "add vitamin c to the pharmacy list" is pretty adhd friendly, and updated live so if one is shopping, that's inevitably when we remember something and the other one of us can update the list without texting.

    I like kitchen owl, but have to use iOS for various reasons, and it's pretty low friction, even autoorganizing the list by section of store to make it easier when roaming the aisles.

    All our recipes are in print or our heads at this point so we don't need a list-from-recipe feature.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    One thing I wish one of the grocery list apps could do was to store recipes, then you choose which recipes you want that day/week/month whenever you go shopping, it's smart enough to know if 3 recipes need flour only put flour on once, then go through and mark ingredients you already have.

    Like I can put in a recipe for penne alla vodka or fettuccine alfrado then if I select penne alla vodka it adds : Penne pasta Vodka sauce Heavy cream Mozzarella cheese Parmesan cheese Sausage

    Etc to the list. Then I say actually I already have heavy cream and mark it as not needed.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    That seems like a perfectly reasonable feature list!

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Do you know of anything that does this? I'm kinda tempted to sketch out a plan to do it myself but I already have a totally different project I'm working on and struggling with.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I use Paprika on iOS, which does this.

    • import a recipe from any URL - including source, photos, nutritional info
    • keeps a database of recipes
    • create meals or calendars of recipes
    • generate a categorized grocery list

    I have a folder full of recipe files from before I got that, but haven’t really looked yet for anyway to import those

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know of anything like that, but it seems like parsing out multiple different formats for recipe ingredient lists would be one of the major obstacles to consistency and reliability.

    I don't know much about digital recipes, other than the crap that is various websites with their ingredient list obfuscation game.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but I'm not even asking for that. I literally want a "start recipe" button... I enter each ingredient in separate text boxes... Optional "instruction" box to paste the instructions... Later I decide "on Tuesday let's have home made pizza, then on Wednesday we'll do beef tips and noodles" and I click a check box or type in recipe name, system sees ingredients I previously entered for that recipe and adds it to grocery list.

    No web scrapping or parsing needed. I will enter the ingredients for each recipe but I only want to enter it once

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    Oh yeah, I get it. On iOS I use a simple database app called Collections that I really like, I use it for mileage tracking and certain kinds of journaling or lists that need extra features like a relational key or lookups or sketch or calculation fields etc. When I can’t find an app that does what I want.

    Basically a simple roll-yer-own approach. I haven’t looked into sharing the data dynamically, though. I think Collections is iOS only, probably similar apps galore on android. https://collectionsdb.com/

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    And just like that, I found a replacement for bring...

    Now to convince the wife. Any QoL improvements?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    When I first deployed to my VPS the iOS client would keep auto updating and then refusing to connect to the older version deployed (android client had no issues) - they were pushing updates often. I setup a chron job to pull the latest docker image and restart the containers, no more problems. Dunno if that is still necessary or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Christ, why is everything a fucking docker image these days?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What's wrong with Docker? Spinning up KitchenOwl was as easy as just copying and pasting the Docker Compose file.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    It's a waste of disk space, fucks up iptables, doesn't isolate UID/GID, doesn't reap orphaned processes, and just overall adds another layer complexity to what could just be a simple package installation.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I make a list, forget the list, and end up winging it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I make my list on my phone for exactly this reason.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I forget my phone, which had the list. Or worse:

    I have my phone, so I have my list, go to pay: Forgot wallet. 😩

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Plan meals for a week. Make list of what’s needed. Shop once a week. Rarely eat out. Never delivery.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    My family always made a very careful list which was followed when grocery shopping.

    Now that I do my own shopping I also make a list, on my phone though. I note down only the very essentials and leave most things open to what I can find whenever I get to shop. For example, I really need eggs and deodorant so I write that, but if I need veg I don't list the type of veg, I just note "veg on special" and make my choice on the spot.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    I have a spouse and child. Winging it simply would not fly.

    Anything less than strict adherence to a list would be another fight... and there are already too many of those.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wing it

    I did worse than wing it actually... half of the groceries I got over the past few weeks were from Too Good To Go, so near-expired food that the grocery store winged-it for me💀

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Depending on the store TGTT bags can be amazing or... not so much. One store near me will always include fresh fruit, veg, meats, rolls, cans... another will just hand over a bag with like ten kilos of sliced ham in it.

    TGTT with a freezer is a game-changer, though.

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    [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I stopped winging it after all too often ending up with both a fridge full of rotting produce and yet also nothing to eat. Turns out grocery shopping needs some strategy that I can’t do without help.

    AnyList has been an awesome tool for me. It’s got all my recipes, a meal plan building to sketch out the next week, and builds a shopping list so I can only buy the things I will for sure cook with.

    It’s also made me realize I’m not about to buy fresh herbs or green onions when they’re only going to be used as a bit of garnish for one dish.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    For me the meal planning is more important than the shopping list.

    Even with a list I still may get a bunch of random stuff and no meals. But if I know what meals I want to make, I can do a decent job even winging it

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I'm shocked nobody has mentioned Aisleron (https://aisleron.com/), I use it for my semi-monthly shopping. It lets you organize items, and then you swipe it if you're out of it/need to buy more. You can have different stores set up, and each item will go to the corresponding location in that store.

    It basically functions like a database for grocery items with an intuitive interface.

    Oh, did I mention it's FOSS?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    A little of both. As a mom you get used to doing a mental inventory of what you have and what you need to create meals for everyone while trying to reduce waste

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I don't understand how that would work, everything runs out at different rates. Something like eggs, sure, just get a dozen every week. But things like mayo, laundry detergent, tofu, cheese, etc., these all need to be re-bought at very different random times.

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  • [+] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm also one person but if I don't keep a list I'll end up with no milk and 10 boxes of cereal (real example)

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  • [+] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    There's the rub, I straight up can't trust my memory like that, I might remember needing to do something but then forget that I already did it.

    With that milk example, I'll remember that I need more milk, get the milk, go home, open the fridge, see milk already there, remember that I already got more milk a couple days ago, put new-new milk next to old-new milk, and legit fucking do it again a couple days from now leaving me with three jugs of milk. Memory is borked I guess.

    Fun fact: I have so, so much tooth floss and white rice rn due to this fun phenomenon

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    Exactly. I'm not sure what op is misunderstanding, but cereal is another perfect example. You don't buy cereal on every shopping trip, so when you go shopping you need to know if you need to get cereal on that trip

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    For me it worked with a family as well, given that I do all the cooking.

    A big part of it is I buy in bulk when possible. Not only do I have a large stock of laundry detergent but I have a chest freezer with large stock of meat.

    • I don’t need a list for Costco runs because it’s every few months and the things I’m low on are top of mind. Also, I try to buy ahead and keep them in stock so no big deal if I miss something and have to go back a couple months later.
    • what I buy at the grocery is much smaller and dominated by things I buy every week

    Eggs, milk, bread, produce every week. Meat if it’s not in the chest freezer. Double it if a kid is home from college

    Mayo is from Costco. Normal size, Believe it or not, they’re the only ones I know who carry kewpie mayo. So I’ll get it and an extra to keep in stock, and worry about it next Costco run. If I forget, no big deal, we can go without mayo or I can get something on next grocery run

    I do use a recipe manager, which can import recipes from any URL, and can generate a categorized grocery list. If I want a recipe, it’s probably there, so I’ll look at that list

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I usually do our food shop online, however I plan the meals and write down everything we need for the week. If I'm going to the shop then I'll write the list down in the order I'll move through the shop so that i can just work my way down through the list.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Same.

    I have a spreadsheet of every meal I've cooked for the last three years, with a meals look-up tab that allows me to filter by cuisine, protein, carb, and then also pulls in the date from the planning sheet so I can see how long it is since I last cooked that meal. Makes weekly meal planning a lot easier, eg: I want a chicken and rice dish that I haven't cooked for at least two months, then a vegetarian pasta dish for next day. No problem!

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I don't make lists for anything. My life is pretty much winging it... Which does explain a lot when I type it out like that :P

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I make a menu that includes two breakfasts (6 and 9 am) a lunch (11) and six dinners. I account for what i have and list the rest of the needs. Then i go shopping and add two treats(for snacking or dessert) and two beverages (oj, pop, prebrewed coffee, rtc) and a freezer pizza.

    If i have to go back that week for anything, i fucked up.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Grocery list and I take a pen along and mark everything off when it goes into the cart.

    Yeah, I'm old.

    I'd love to have a database with all my recipes with ingredients and add them at a click of the button. The problem is I have a fairly well stocked kitchen and I still need to go through the list anyway to make sure I'm not buying anything I already have. So having a computerized system really doesn't save me any time.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I make a list and every so often I remember to bring it with me.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    It’s a bit of both. We do have a list with the staple items and foods we buy and we check it to see if our pantry needs refilling but other than than we just take what we think would be good and/or useful

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago*

    No list and I do constantly forget stuff. But I also go shopping every other day, so it's not like anything essential will be forgotten for too long.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago
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    Mostly wing it based on my memory. But in some occasions, there's a list of important stuffs. It's mostly just 2,3 items like "we're out of potatoes/onions/salt", then wing the rest.

    I think except for important and constant stuffs like spices, it's better to just buy what's available cheap and make your food from that. But that could be just me

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    Both!

    Always go a list nowadays as I have ADHD and if I go for three things I will forget one of them. The list is what I must get, but once there, I get what is on the list and then maybe get a few more things that I forgot to put on the list.

    So I never really make a full and complete list, just a list of necessities and wing the rest.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I take a list, and I grab everything on the list, but I also follow my whims

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I've been eating the same things every day for over a decade. I can manage without list.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    yes. I have this botepad on the fridge whenever I notice something is needed I write it down and when I go to the store I just grab that list, anything I didn't/couldn't get I try to write back down. I tend to forget to get the list so I half wing usually to poor results

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Both.

    My grocery list is just to prevent me forgetting the main points. So three items on the list "cat litter, dinner somehow, bake a cake" turns into any number of things bought as I decide on what to make for dinner and which cake to bake while shopping.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I just go when I need something and then it’s usually a few things. No need for a list. If I’m going to need to get a lot of stuff then I’ll make a list.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    make a list, then also wing it at the store.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    List, once I have everything in it then I look for stuff I might be in the mood for.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I make a list of the things I need, organized by the places I need to stop and buy them and a list of the things I need to do

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I wing it. Since I don’t know how to cook, I usually just walk around the grocery store, anxious as fuck, pick out a bunch of junk food, and go home and starve.

    Fortunately, my gf is a wiz in the kitchen— cooking, baking, whateva. She handles the groceries now too, I’m just the cart pusher and bag carrier.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I start with the "buy again" list on the grocery website.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Stop mid-exercise because I remembered something I need, roll the dice to decide on which of my todo lists I'll add it to. Then maybe start organising the lists a bit and get absorbed in the devices. Later I'll probably meet a friend or go for a walk and on the way back do the shopping, without any lists and forgetting half the stuff I need.

    That's pretty much my average.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I add things to an online pickup order as I think of them, I don't actually go in the store anymore

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    When I lived alone I did not need a list. I did meal prep and for most perishables I could get away with using a whole unit so as long as I remembered the recepie I was fine most of the time.

    Living with a girlfriend that is a very picky eater that changes what she likes every day made it too complex to keep track of. She sends me the list, I go by the store on my way home from work.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I text twin throughout the day to bring home groceries. If we're all going to the store then there's probably a big list twin can't just bring home easily after work.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    List. I have a shared digital list with my wife. When we run out of something (or when open the last package/box/tin) we put it on the list. But sometimes the list just says "dinner" or "breakfast 2x" and we wing it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    i should but usually don't :D I often end up with not having all the things I needed or too many things I don't need

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    LIst. A mere scrap of paper we keep nearby on which my spouse and I jot down whatever we see is or will soon be depleted and need to be renewed. The first of us that is able to do errands simply grab the list and that's it. The moment we notice the list is not where it is supposed to be 1) we know the other is doing errands 2) we start a new list ;)

    Doing so, we never have to wonder what we need to buy when we're doing errands, we just follow the list.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    In this economic situation, I really need to use grocery list to make my money last till the next month.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Take stock what's running out, make a list, wing it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I go to the market regularly, so I don't need a list. I know what I need. That's just 2-4 types of products per visit.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I always make a list otherwise I will probably forget something.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    Both.

    • for something unusual or occasional I make a list
    • for my usual stuff the fastest approach is to just take every aisle and wing it

    For example for dinners in a week

    • I’ll just wing it to get a couple packages of chicken and some veggies. I do the same every week
    • I’ll need a list if I’m out of a spice or need rice or scallions or something
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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    If I'm baking or cooking to a recipe with unusual ingredients I definitely make a list. I've got a master list of staples on my phone with check boxes that I sometimes use. But mostly I wing it. Top tip: never do your grocery shopping when you're hungry.

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  • I need a list especially when doing a big shop.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I make a list, tick off the first couple of things then, for whatever reason, forget about the list completely and go through the store winging it and forgetting half of the things that were left on there. every single time.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Nope shop like ounce a week for myself only so make a mental grocery list of at most 10 things to grad so no need for a physical list.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I have multiple grocery stores within walking distance so I just wing it.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I make a list between shopping of stuff I realize I should get (eg: peanut butter). When I go, I sometimes just grab stuff that's cheap or appealing.

    I also live like 5 minutes away on foot from several grocery stores, so it's not a big deal to go.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Both. Anything not in the normal set (milk, salad, peanuts, tofu, natto, bananas,.and sweet pepper) gets written down immediately when I know we used up the previous one or need something for a particular recipe. We also get sushi and ice cream once a week (usually on Friday) unless we're going out to eat.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    +1 repetitive single person.

    I make a grocery checklist categorized/sectioned by area of the store.

    Even if the list is repetitive - it just helps ensure I don’t forget something while daydreaming at the store or end up with 10 bottles of a condiment because I’m afraid that I have might run out.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I use a calculator and decide what I won't need based on that in the store.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    It takes me two minutes to drive to the store, 10 min to walk, I am winging it.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I make a dinner plan for a day or two then walk to the grocery store for ingredients

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Things get added to a list on my phone as I use things up or decide I want to make something. I absolutely use that list in the store - but I also buy on impulse: "oh, that looks really good / is on sale, I have a recipe but I'll need these other things". Or sometimes one thing will set off a chain: those chips the kids love are on super sale so I'll get them, and we should have some queso dip to go with them, and if we have queso dip I should get cauliflower, and if we have cauliflower ... "

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