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[–] 159 points 10 months ago* (25 children)

There have been dozens, if not more, of impeachable offenses Trump has committed and they don't care. Why would they care about this, which helps their dear leader?

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  • [–] 66 points 10 months ago (23 children)

    Because no one cares about Pam Bondi, but the American people care about the Epstein files

    Who's going to defend her? She made the administration look bad while also pissing off the public

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    In n particular, MAGA care about the Epstein files. This is a major crack in their coalition. They spent years throwing around conspiracy theories about pedophile cults secretly running the world. They are obsessed with the Epstein files, and the more Trump tries to obfuscate their contents, the more they have to start wondering what his skin in the game is. We're already seeing it happen with people like MTG publicly turning on him.

    It's still a cult. They don't want to suspect dear leader of anything. But the more he works to conceal stuff, the more they're trapped between two things they hold at absolute truths. One of them has to give eventually.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    I’d dearly love to believe you but if any group of people are champions of managing cognitive dissonance without addressing it, it’s the MAGA crowd.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I have yet to see the limit of MAGA voters' stupidity, but I hope you are right.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    See, the thing is, I'm not talking about their stupidity.

    That's why the Epstein stuff is sticking in a way nothing else is; because it doesn't ask them to be smart. In fact, it plays right into their stupidity. That's the difference.

    Everything else has bounced off them because it was easier to excuse it. Excusing the tariffs is easier than learning how trade really works. Excusing tax cuts is easier than understanding how the economy really works. Excusing his foreign policy blunders is easier than trying to understand the value of soft power. Ignorance is simpler. Ignorance is easier.

    But the Epstein stuff? That sticks because they don't have the ability to be ignorant about it. This is something they know. Secret cabals of pedophile elites kidnapping children to sexually abuse them on a private island? My brother in Christ, they write fanfiction about that shit. They are the self proclaimed experts on that stuff. With everything else they can just say "Well I don't understand this, but I'm 100% confident that Trump does, because obviously the billionaire is a genius." But then they watch as Democrats are out there screaming for the release of the Epstein files while Republicans are dragging their heels and it does a number on them. Because they know how this is supposed to work; Democrats are all evil child rapists and Trump is the saviour sent to stop them. So why is Trump running cover for the pedophile cabal?

    In short, I'm not claiming that MAGA are suddenly getting smart. I'm claiming that the Epstein cover up is exactly the right kind of stupid.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I really hope you are right, I'm not up to date with MAGA I don't run in any of their circles, but I know Meagan whatever her name is already tried downplay pedophile like if they are 15 it's not as bad.

    I'm just afraid they are so stupid it's easy to explain stuff away with bullshit like that

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    MAGA won't collapse as a unified front. No collapse is ever unified, that's why it's a collapse. The fact that you're seeing some of them bending over backwards to defend Epstein doesn't prove that the damage isn't happening. That split is the damage. There's a tonne of infighting happening in the MAGA world right now. Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes are basically at war. Tucker Carlson has managed to turn the Heritage Foundation into the red wedding. Lauren Boebert and MTG - major MAGA figureheads - both openly defied Trump over the Epstein files, and MTG is retiring from Congress before the mid terms. If you're only looking at one or two faces you're not seeing the full picture.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (14 children)

    Who’s going to defend her?

    More pressing, who is going to prosecute her? To date, I've seen zero impulse under any prior administration to prosecute the wrongdoing of outgoing officials.

    The closest case has been the half assed effort to get Leticia James on... misreporting a mortgage statement?

    Nobody at the highest levels of government and business actually want to fuck with one another. It is always and forever punching down on the plebs.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Congress. They can just impeach her

    I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she'd be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she'd be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis.

    Now Trump definitely won't fire her. He loves criminals who do crimes for him.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    They can just impeach her

    Hasn't Trump been impeached twice already?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    Yes, but really no.

    They impeached him, which is the name of the procedure to remove an official from office, but then they didn't have the Senate votes to remove him from office

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (6 children)

    they didn’t have the Senate votes to remove him from office

    When has anyone ever?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    Us, right now?

    This isn't a unicorn. Literally the entire Senate voted to release the Epstein files, that unanimously passed law in the Senate was not followed

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Literally the entire Senate voted to release the Epstein files

    Well aware that they'd be redacted down to nothing

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    It's not going away. Why do you think Congress members have resigned this post month? It's not because they care, it's because they realize being an incumbent is a liability at this point

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    A lot of the Congresscritters resigning are eyeing higher offices now that they've secured a pension through their five year term of service in the House.

    And while this is certainly a shit year for Republican incumbents, the gerrymandering favors Republicans long term. They'll be back, and in greater number, in '28 or '30.

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  • [–] 63 points 10 months ago

    Lock her up.

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago

    Paedo protector pam.

    Remember what she did when the fat old child rapist dies.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

    Then what will be the consequences? I don't give a fuck that these people are breaking the law if nothing is going to be DONE about it. I want a headline that says Trump and his cronies are to be prosecuted. Not might be! ARE! and I want the trial to happen quickly, not be dragged out for four years, by which time America has irreversibly descendended into fascism!

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Democrats will make a big theater about and proceed to not do anything when they have power.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    "It's time to come together and heal as a nation. Now is not the time for retribution."

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Trump and his cronies need to be removed from the office, not prosecuted. Not because a part of the population strongly disagrees with his policies, but simply because he has been blatantly disregarding the constitution. And if you think "only the supreme court can decide if that's true" I'm sorry but you're wrong, you only need a brain. You don't need a conviction to know that he is a paedophile and has something weird going on with Putin, you just need your eyes and ears. The epstein files have now been released, clearly implicating him, yet people still seem to be waiting for "the official thing" and crying about the redactions. I understand that he "allegedly" is an Epstein associate until he's convicted, but dear Americans please remember that being found guilty of something is not the same as being guilty of something. You can be one without the other. You can be reasonably certain someone did something based on the evidence you've seen. Judges are not superhuman, and especially if they're complicit, how can you rely on them to stop the injustice?

    This really is not a call for violence. I do not care how you stop Trump from hurting the USA and the rest of the world, but it does need to happen, and You The People are the only ones who can make it happen. It is your duty and your right to resist tyranny, isn't it? I hope new "political" figures can rise soon and accomplish that with nothing but charisma and a spine, but at the very least, please stop being so defeatist towards the lack of consequences.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm not sure if this is directed at me specifically or the American people but 1) I'm not American and 2) I'm not being defeatist, I'm demanding something be done to change things just like you are. Before the people can do something, they need to recognize that the government isn't going to do anything to stop this

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    [–] 33 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I hope that if I’m ever in the papers for abandoning my morals, my oaths, and all dignity in egregiously stupid ways, that my wonton and clear law-breaking is characterized as defiance.

    “Oh, no, your honor, I wasn’t breaking all those laws! I was defying them!”

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    [–] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm sure her loyalty will be richly rewarded.

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  • [–] 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Throw it on the heap of all the other illegal shit this administration has done for which they'll never be punished.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Hey, now, you can make sure they're punished. You can be the justice you want to see in the world. It's just a matter of willpower ;)

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    ‘Don’s Best Friend’: How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women

    https://archive.is/S1p87

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Remember when Obama decided that "moving on" was more important than prosecuting the Bush admin for war crimes? There won't ever be any consequences for these people unless we find a way to distribute them ourselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    The corruption, incompetence, and negligence of the Bush administration led to the avoidable deaths of over 10,000 American citizens, countless foreign nationals, the rise of organized Muslim military extremism, AND the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

    When Obama took over, I never bought into his Hope & Change bullshit, he looked like just another neolib placeholder President, meant to fill in between destructive Republicans presidencies. That was the role of EVERY Democratic president since LBJ, the last warrior Democrat, and that's the role that Obama filled.

    I said at the time, that if Obama didn't aggressively punish the crimes of the Bush administration, the Republicans would view it as extreme weakness, and pounce. Republicans are feral, and they operate like wild animals. If their natural tendency for chaos isn't controlled, the next Republican administration would be even worse.

    Despite that, even I was surprised at how bad MAGA became.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Remember when Obama continued committing war crimes like he was the 3rd and 4th terms of the bush administration? It was in his best interest not to prosecute, the precedence would have been inconvenient for him.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    Okay, she erased them. But did she remember to click "Empty Recycle Bin"

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Do it, stop talking about it.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Some of us pretended to to wrap presents for the kids. Others erased evidence that could help put a pedophile in jail.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    The department’s own explanation confirms it is violating the law it claims to follow.

    LOCK. THEM. UP!

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    This bitch belongs in prison.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    She's on the same shitty level as Epstein. Protecting pedophiles.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Okay, slow your roll there. Protecting pedophiles is not nearly in the same category as directly facilitating pedophilia and engaging in human trafficking.

    Downvote all you like, but a murderer is still guilty of a greater crime than their friend who is helping them bury the bodies.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Straight to Guantanamo.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Bondi’s been on the outs for a while now. They’re just throwing whatever blame at her to rationalize getting rid of her. People might think her eventual departure is good, and it is, but they’ll just put some other just as awful person in her place.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Even after dems have healthy majority these people won't face backlash.

    It's two hands of the same body. They're working together.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    If this is ever over, she is going right to jail.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    And not shit will ever happen about it. More news at 5!

    It just gets so exhausting. Nothing will happen. No one will be held accountable. Ever. USA USA USA!!!

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    Nothing will ever change until the American people take to the streets and demand it. Stop waiting for someone else to fix it. They won't.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Ah yes how do you propose they do that women and children in the back so they get shot and killed last?

    Or what's your suggestion?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Sustained protests have changed a lot in the past few years. You can ask France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece, The Netherlands, Serbia, Nepal, South Korea did it with varying degrees of success.

    Maybe even the Home of the Brave could do it. Don't let your pessimism get in your way.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's much harder to protest in the US since it's so fucking big. All those countries you mentioned are tiny land mass compared to the US, so any US protests always seem so spread out.

    I'm not against protest, just saying it's not 1 to 1.

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  • [+] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Are you aware of Kent State or the Detroit riots? They have shot and killed protestors before and no one banded together then and no one will band together now.

    Also refer to how they have DEA and friends use their facial recognition on protestors all the time and then show up at your house with bogus charges.

    Its easy to say do something from an armchair and I feel you, I wish we could do something

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Unimpeachable: Republicans control too many seats to ever allow successful impeachment (even less conviction) of any of their loyal gang members.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    This needs to be hammered home every time people meme about writing strongly worded letters.

    They literarily have NO POWER.

    That said, if Democrats take back power and do not fully prosecute these fuckers there needs to be riots.

    Check that, we've seen Biden, we KNOW centrist Democrats won't do shit.

    We need leftist flooding the primaries and sweeping out the old Democratic guard.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm a school bus driver and one time I was chewing out some misbehaving kids. At one point I said "if you guys don't stop I'm going to report you to the principal and he's going to, uh, give you a stern talking-to" and I just started laughing because it was so pathetic. The Repubs are like the kids on my bus: they know they can do whatever they like and nobody's going to be able to do anything about it.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    And we now go live to the DNC for their complete strategy for holding the American Fascist Party accountable:

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  • [+] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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