Thake the bike! Really! At 45 Minutes for 3 Miles, even walking would be faster.
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You are the traffic
3 miles over 45 minutes. You can literally walk briskly faster than that!
Not if there are dogs, or bees. Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you.
Honestly the number of people in that thread claiming that walking 3 miles in 45mins was some super human ability was shocking. I’d bet good money that they have never actually walked more than 5 mins anywhere other than maybe when shopping.
Ok, wait. I regularly take a 1.5km (close to a mile) path uphill that I need 20min to walk (and people say I'm a fast walker). How are you all walking so fast? I need to wait for trafic semaphores and stuff, but how can walking almost 5km (more than 3 times my path) take only twice as long?
I walk fast cause I'm 2 m tall and have long legs, but my ex used to walk a Pokemon go route with me that was 1.6 miles and it took us just about an hour to go through it and back. She was not very tall and had no problem keeping up.
5km in an hour is a brisk walk. In 45 minutes it's probably closer to a jog. It's not super human but it's not a normal walking pace.
why did you guys break up
Around 5,5 km from me to my Grandpa on the other side of my city with pedestrian lights etc. Takes me around 45-50 minutes. Fast walker, around average height for an EU man.
Yeah my sustainable walking pace is around 4.5kph on flat terrain. And I'm a pretty quick walker. Which is around 2.5mph. 3 miles is probably a 70 minute walk for me.
15 minute mile is my "walking while listening to fast music" fast pace. It is definitely a brisk pace but this is not even close to jogging. And 3.5 miles is my normal distance.
And even then, the point is more that if you are moving at 4 mph in your car, the car is doing almost no work. 4mph for a semi in shape human is perfectly reasonable to walk, so if that is all your car is providing you, it isn't worth it.
Medan human walking speed is ~4 MPH* so, actually, yeah pretty much half of people aren’t going to be able to do 3 miles in 45 minutes right off the bat. That’s before we take into account crosswalks and other walking hazards and that obesity and sedentary lifestyles are on the rise.
* I was taught 5 MPH but I found multiple sources that listed 5, 4, and 3 MPH so yeah…
As a 5' person, 3 mph is a sweaty pace for me even in cold weather. Someone with long legs might find 5 mph easy but I'd be running.
well yeah, most people these days are extremely unfit, that's kinda the point.
Walking fast isn't a superhuman feat, it's something you become able to do if you regularly walk a lot.
3 mi in 45 min? That's about 6 or 7 kph. That's a brisk walking pace. And a bicycle easily does twice, maybe even thrice that.
With no sidewalk, breathing fumes the whole way
A decent amount of Americans are not in good enough shape to walk 3 miles in any amount of time.
I walk 3.3 miles to and from work, 3 days a week, takes less than an hour, even if I had a car I'd do that over a 45 minute drive, thas crazy business
This doesn’t really look like a place with great infrastructure for walking, though 😅
I walk 3.3 miles to and from work
In that kind of traffic? You'd be trampled to death
In the middle of the street? Sure. But best part of Lambofeeties is their ability to go places cars typically can't, like the sidewalk or the side of the road
That's great in walkable areas (which I want more of), but there are some parts of America that are designed for cars only. There is no sidewalk, and the lanes go all the way to the edge of the road which may have a fence or wall for some sections.
The US has gone so far into the "freedom" of cars that they're taking away the freedom to use alternatives.
Oh, trust me, I know. My mornin walk to work has plenty of stretches where I am in the middle of a, thankfully not too busy at the time, road, but still, faced with a 45 minute drive or a 55 minute walk on the road, imma inconvenience others and play on the fact that no one wants to hit the 6' guy in a kilt as much as I can. Far from perfect, and I have to keep me head on a swivel, but yeah
If they only had one more lane...
As much as I love a good Ten Minutes Hate directed at some carbrain too lazy to walk 4km, it seems I'm going to have to be the one to point out that it's entirely possible that this person's route to work is far too dangerous to walk, let alone cycle.
Just look at that strip of paint some of you are calling a bike lane. Maybe you would be willing to risk your life squeezing amongst the monster trucks on a bike, but I certainly wouldn't. And walk? Breathing all those tailpipe fumes for 30-60min? Hell no. This person may well be looking at 4km of car-exclusive road to get to work.
So instead of ripping into this poor soul for being lazy, maybe we should be considering the very real possibility that their options are limited by poor infrastructure/planning/politics.
Not Just Bikes has pointed out in numerous videos places where the distance is walkable/bikeable but totally unsafe to walk or bike. Carbrain infrastructure is not just bad because it centers cars, but because it excludes every other option.
Very sarcastic comment, but if the traffic is bad enough then it becomes safe to cycle again because of how little anyone in a car can move.
Actually, that's a pretty good strategy. I quite like cycling around in heavy traffic for exactly this reason.
The aggravating part isn't not the lazy, but their complaint that they are building more density surrounding it's area. A less carbrained person would see that as an opportunity to push for bike lanes and public transit.
Yes, even get the developers to pay a contribution as part of the permit.
I get the impression - or what seems most likely given their ridiculous situation of driving at average of walking pace - that they'll be asking instead for one more lane, and it won't be dedicated for bus or bike or tram.
At the stage they seem to have reached I think it seems quite fair to ridicule the whole city and everyone who has had the power to vote there for the past generation which presumably includes the ooop.
That is just a narrow shoulder, you're asking to die riding a bike on that.
it’s entirely possible that this person’s route to work is far too dangerous to walk, let alone cycle.
If only there was some kind of enlongated multi-passanger vehicle they could use
proceeds to wait 45 minutes in traffic AND 15 minutes additional for the bus
It's funny, because I cut ten minutes off my thirty minute commute via the HOV lane by carpooling, and I see plenty of Metro buses on the same route.
Great, then you can just spend the hour sleeping or watching youtube or something, rather than bored and frustrated in the car.
How do you know there is?
And if there is I don't see a dedicated lane.
I would still bus on principle because I'm a masochist and stubborn. But I get it when people don't if the infrastructure isn't good.
The obvious solution is to put your bike on your car's bike rack, pull out across both lanes of traffic, then take your bike off your car and ride from there.
/s just in case
The traffic is moving at walking speed. It's definitely not dangerous to ride bike there...
That's not even designed to be a bike lane it's just the edge of the road
With the speed of the traffic being nearly none, I think cycling would be pretty safe in the shoulder there. I wonder what it's like in the morning
3 miles = 4.82Km for the rest is us.
If they're building infill density, they should also build frequent public transit. Even something as simple as dedicated bus lanes would be enough.
That's a 40 minute walk if you walk fast. Get a bike and it's probably 20 minutes (at least I tend to cycle around twice as fast as I walk)
Looks like a bike lane right there.
The amount of car brain in people is insane. I used to live in an apartment literally two buildings down from my work. Could see it from my window. My roommate still drove every single day. Dude lived in the gym so not like he couldn't do the walk
Honestly I'm so glad I started biking to my high school all those years ago, it conditioned me to view biking as a natural solution for my daily commutes.
And how many of the cars in this photo are going to sit in this same traffic to the gym after work (and try to get the closest parking spot)? If 10 - 20% of them were able to and chose to bike or walk, it would be a more pleasant experience for everyone.
That's a gutter. But then again, most US bike lanes are just rebranded gutters. I'd bike it.
My work is only a few miles away and it only takes me 10 minutes to get there on my bike: I was lucky enough to find a place near work without it being impossible to ride though.
The Republican shithole burb I live in is determined to bulldoze what little open space remains, and stack more apartments on top of overpriced apartments. No improvements of course. I have to slog 4 miles to the nearest shopping, and if I had to take the bus? A simple errand could run four hours.
Unfortunately not all forced to work are able to walk/bike 3 miles, though that is a good suggestion for most people. I'd be thrilled to be able to walk 3 miles to work so long as it is safe.
I use an electric stand up scooter and a full face helmet. 3 miles is 20 minutes.
4,82 km in 45 minutes is an easy walk??
That’s 6.5 km/h, or about 4 mph. Very average.
My most recent measured walk, just wandering in no hurry was 4.37 km in 52 min. That’s 5 km/h or a little more than 3 mph.
So … yes?
Absolutely! I have a regular round I walk around the river that is about 9 km and takes a bit over 1,5 hours, so about the same. A bicycle would save this person tons of time through.
Sure. Maybe I misread, your original comment seemed to be incredulous that someone would consider that an easy walk.
I’d bike it but I wouldn’t mind walking in winter or so.
It really did, sorry about that. Was just too fascinated with the case to think about phrasing. For that distance I'd either bike to save time or walk past or with the traffic to have a nice wake up walk with a podcast in the morning and a disconnect from work walk in the afternoon.
So... they're making more housing that is closer to your job? Move there. Now you have a shorter commute. Congrats.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
I dont think Reddit or Spez have any involvement with OP's traffic issues.
But maybe I'm just not informed. 🤔
I was about to crash out but then I saw the community I was in. whew!
like just get a bike for 3 miles and stfu knock down your travel times get exercise it's not a hard! see, I still had to rant even a little. sorry lol
Yep, my area is like that. Long lines starting at 2:30 every day, lasting until at least 7. All along the entire route, there are new, enormous complexes going up on every square inch of open ground, and almost no road widening. When they do try to increase the infrastructure, by the time it's finished, it's already built up too much for the new roads to handle.
Totally thought the rear camera LCD was a display of a beluga leaving a docking station in elite dangerous

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