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[–] 108 points 11 months ago (11 children)

From CNN:

New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani was pressed Friday on whether he believes President Donald Trump is a fascist.

Standing beside his host in the Oval Office, Mamdani began to answer – until the president, seated, interrupted.

“That’s OK – you can just say yes. That’s easier. It’s easier than explaining,” Trump told his guest, laughing it off as he playfully tapped Mamdani on the arm.

TFW the fascist agrees he is a fascist

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    But the two were all smiles throughout, with Trump even siding with the soon-to-be first Muslim mayor of New York over one of his GOP allies, Rep. Elise Stefanik, who’d called Mamdani a “jihadist.”

    “She’s out there campaigning and you say things sometimes in a campaign,” Trump said of Stefanik, who’s running for governor of New York. “I met with a man who’s a very rational person. I met with a man who wants to see New York be great again.”

    Well that's not what I expected...

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve seen some word that Trump probably just thinks Mamdani is using “fascist” as a political pejorative - in the same way republicans call their political opponents “communists” or “radical left socialists”.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    This is the first I'm hearing of this. And, I seriously can't tell whether you're joking.

    Not for the first time, recently, I ask, "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!"

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The ruling class wear ideology like a suit. It’s political theatre. Power only ever serves itself, right/left have no meaning at the top.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Left and right are just a narrative to keep the lower classes busy against each other…

    Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered right ideology
    Everyone likes some stuff that are considered right ideology
    Everyone likes some stuff that are considered left ideology
    Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered left ideology

    We need diversity

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I don't know if this is some sort of joke, but that's not an agreement. That's Trump not wanting a convoluted political beating around the bush, which is what Mamdani was about to do. Such a response would feed the media, but just saying yes and Trump shrugging it off sabotages the media's obvious attempt of pitting them against each other.

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  • [–] [S] 105 points 11 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They attacked Trump when he used to be pro-vax.

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  • [–] 153 points 11 months ago (19 children)

    ngl, Trump falling for the new demsoc mayor of NYC's rizz was not on my 2025 bingo

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (17 children)

    42 year old here.

    ..........is it weird that I know what rizz is, but I'm only assuming I know what demsoc is based on context?

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    38 year old here:

    I'm gonna give it to the zoomers for coming up with some solid slang with Rizz.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    44 , no idea. Is it a hairdo?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Charisma (cha"rizz"ma)...

    I don't agree with it, I just know what it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Omfg I finally understand where it comes from.

    Can I get one of these for "drip"?? Or is that already old?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Probably a play on Orwell’s 1984 “IngSoc” party but with “Dem” instead

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Demsoc = democratic socialist. They're the more progressive wing of the American Democrat party who are beginning to take power from the old neoliberals.

    They basically just want a system like what Europe has instead of our current system of crony capitalism.

    Afaik it's the biggest American political movement that Europe would consider to actually be on the left part of the spectrum.

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  • [–] 72 points 11 months ago

    The last person who said something nice to him is whoever’s side he’s on, example 5829583920.

    Mamdani is awesome anyway, but it’s amusing to see.

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago

    I don't think the USA can handle the amount of aura farming that Mamdani has been doing recently.

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  • [–] 172 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Did the Saudis order Trump to stop picking on the Muslim guy?

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Trump gushing over a dem-soc was not on my bingo card

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  • [+] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I doubt he's that smart, he's senile, his opinion is based on whoever was nice to him last. He literally said he never heard of his policies from TV (insane admission of incompetence which we already knew about).

    someone on lemmy said that's why we have a gereontocracy, they are so easy to manipulate with lobbyists and owning the tv channels they watch.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    I do wonder if people have never met a senior in cognitive decline.

    If you have you start to see the signs in a lot of the old people in Congress and the white house.

    Trump can't remember what he did last week.

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    [–] 43 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Okay, Trump suddenly acting amenable is somehow the most unsettling behavior that I can expect from him. Has a second (Third or fourth) stroke hit the white-house? Has the mounting pressure of the Epstein files finally broken him? Did three funny little ghosts visit him last night?

    Stay tuned for the next episode of: "America's Future Hinges On The Whims of A Geriatric, Rapist Sociopath"

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    One thing you have to always remember about Donald Trump is: he's incredibly insecure. His fragile little ego is desperate for approval. It's why he constantly shitposts on a social media site he owns - so he can get that constant dopamine rush of upvotes and fawning comments and "megadittoes, Mr. President". And it's why he's desperate for the approval of people he considers strong leaders - Putin and Xi and Milei and so on. And when somebody he respects flatters him, he becomes putty in their hands.

    Mamdani won decisively in New York. Mamdani proved himself a strong leader. And then, after taking everything Trump could throw at him and coming out on top, Mamdani went to Trump and basically said "I talk a lot of shit about you, you talk a lot of shit about me, but we both know that's how the game is played and not to take it personally. You do good work and I respect you. We both believe New York is the greatest city in the world so let's work together to make it great again."

    And Mamdani certainly didn't have to ask for a meeting with Trump. It probably hurt him with some of his base to talk to Trump at all. So you have this strong man, this leader, this winner, who decisively proved himself the leader of the Democratic Party in New York, with incredible momentum behind him - and he goes to Trump to kiss his ring and ask for his support.

    And when a strong man gives Trump the manly validation he craves, he melts like a teenage girl at a David Bowie concert.

    Because you also have to remember, Donald Trump has no actual political positions. He doesn't care about anything except winning - and he loves winners. And whatever Mamdani is, he's a winner.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Actually the best explanation of Trump being so friendly with him. When I first saw that I had alarms going off in my head, legit the first thought I had was to check if Mamdani has kids (doesn't look like he has)

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    It is just not amenability, he fucking showed actual mental agility and maturity when deflecting questions such as "Do you still think he is a fascist" directed at Mamdani. What the actual fuck? Is this guy a robit whose programming changes depending on the situation?

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago

    I was not expecting Mamdani to meet with Trump, but looking back it makes sense. Butter him up, and he'll support anyone. If Elon Musk and JD Vance could get Trump's support by glazing him, anyone can.

    Trump has flip-flopped on positions repeatedly. Gun control, LGBTQ+ rights. It's all ego for him. Always has been. I guess all you need to do is sweet talk him the right way.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    I can't even say Mamdani has dirt on him because what the fuck is there left to blackmail?

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    MAGA for sure will have a whiplash today but Trump's change of mind is consistent with my theory that he only cares about two things:

    • making money
    • getting the Nobel Peace Prize

    Everything else is just a distraction. Trump doesn't give a shit who's the mayor of NYC. He will post couple of truths about it but now the important thing is to get back to making billions on crypto and getting shitloads of bribes.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    trump only cares about one thing. Feeding his ego. He’s a narcissist. It’s all that drives him. The money, the Nobel & other prizes, the ballroom, the plane, the bribes, etc. it’s all about his image.

    If Mamdani boosted trump’s own personal image of himself then trump will like Mamdani. For the moment.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I've just remembered that enough people voted both AOC for House and Trump for president that she did a livestream about it asking them why.

    Some people really believed that Trump would lower prices. Mamdani and AOC, being dem-soc, focus on people's basic necessities. As wild as it sounds, there's actually a link between Trump and the dem-socs. Trump has made some left-wing promises on the economy, which, of course, he has failed to keep, and associating himself with Mamdani might improve his approval on the economy if Mamdani succeeds. Maybe Trump will try to take credit for what Mamdani may succeed to do in NYC

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Keep in mind that the critical affordability issue as it landed in the news as we recovered from COVID and also supply chain impacts from Ukraine war. During his first term, inflation was pretty much the same as it had been since 1990. Then during Biden's term, there was 7% then a further 6.5% on top of that and then another 3.4% on top of that and then 2.9% on top of that. So there's a correlation that things are now even more rapidly unaffordable and in such cases the president inevitably gets the blame whether it makes sense or not.

    His first term was pretty incompetent and corrupt, but got nowhere near as maliciously and successfully corrupt as this go around. On the matter of deaths, while the USA by the data was among the worst, almost in the 10 worst nations for per-capita death, the subjective coverage was "globally lots of people are dying", it's not Trump's fault specifically in that perception of "no one has it good".

    Generally speaking, in these circumstances people are just voting against the state of the way things are with less high minded ideals. Trump lost because people hated things under COVID. Harris lost because the economic reaction to recovery was all messed up and so a change was demanded.

    I share the shock that people actually went for it, but I'm not surprised that this seemingly nonsensical situation could happen.

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    [–] 28 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In love? Oh dear. Trump didn't try to... you know...

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm very relieved that he didn't try to detain and deport Mamdani (after publicly threatening to do so), but I'm also definitely not convinced anything be said was genuine. Especially coming on the heels of vaguely threatening to execute any Democrats who oppose him.

    Idk if it was a genuine attempt to ingratiate himself with the left before the Epstein files are released, or some other kind of misdirection. Either way, I think anyone opposed to fascism who can remember further back than a goldfish, should know not to let their guard down.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    PROTIP: Nothing Trump says is genuine. One day he could say someone is a great person, the next day he'll say that person is nasty or whatever, and the day after that he'll say they're a great person again. Everything is transactional to him and everything he says is entirely dependent on what benefits him personally in that specific moment.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Trump's just a cowardly keyboard warrior, full of bluster when he doesn't have to face his target, with a total lack of impulse control. So he says wild shit that any normal person would understand is completely inappropriate.

    But when he is face-to-face, he goes full coward, and smiles, and laughs, and jokes, all of which he does weirdly uncomfortably, because he's an astonishingly broken psychopath, and doesn't have the slightest clue about how to behave like a normal person.

    Tomorrow he'll be back to "normal," (for him) and Mamdani will go back to being a Commie.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I mean more or less. This is one of the top posts on r/conservative rn

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    There's some absolute charmers on there.

    me too! i actually sold my maga hat and bought a soviet flag and gave away my belongings to a homeless man who needed it more than i do. i cant way to see all the wonderful things socialism will do for NYC!

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    One of the comments and below that, the reply:

    Don't worry. It's for show. Mamdani showed up and kissed the ring like a good boy. Smart move. But Trump isn't dumb enough to trust this guy. And neither should we be.

    Yeah I got the sense that Trump was trolling him a bit.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Literally yesterday at my local diner some dipshit MAGA was complaining that Mamdani was going to give away free food. Just hated the idea of food for the poor.

    Dude doesn't like what's in the Bible he swears he read.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    Matthew 25:41-46 seems explicitly targeted at modern republicans:

    ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

    For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 60 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Trump gave a blowjob to Mamdani.

    ........and we live in such a bizzare timeline that you innitially don't know if I'm joking.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    I'm not against bros blowing bros,

    But if that were to happen I'm pretty sure it would not be consensual on Mamdani's part

    Cuomo? 100% wouldn't have given a 2nd thought and assumed it's true

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    This meeting most likely benefits Trump more than Mamdani. This gives Trump an opportunity to sweep the vile racism of the final weeks of the campaign under the rug, and lets him appear to be concerned about the working class and affordability.

    I'm sure Mamdani and his team understood this but are willing to butter him up so that Trump doesn't send ICE and the national guard into NYC.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    That was one weird hell of a meeting, that it was. I especially love how some people are like "I am not at all surprised". Sure buddy in retrospect everything is always very clear.

    Sure it is politics but these two people were at each other's throats for the last couple months. And Trump has insulted Sadik Khan, mayor of London, every chance he gets, for almost a decade, because Sadik Khan called him ignorant once, about ten years ago. He doesn't even stand to gain much from this, it is just petty feud. Trump is a vindictive man child. And yet somehow he pretended like he was best friends with a guy who called him a fascist about a month ago. And the way he showed mental agility to deflect questions from reporters like "Do you still think he is a fascist" to save both Mamdani and himself from a difficult spot is so unlike Trump. I would never in a decade think he can display such mental feats and maturity. And yet here we are.

    Either Trump thinks he is losing too much support and shifting to center, or he thinks he stands to lose much more financially by losing control of NYC to an enemy rather than someone neutral(ish). It might be both, acting vindictively on NYC might be both a big support and financial loss for him. Or alternatively Trump isn't this strategic and Mamdani just has found Trump's levers and is manipulating him by saying the right things.

    It makes more sense from Mamdani's point of view that this was a win. He did not get the vindictive wrath of Trump on NYC (which could have terrible effects on his mayoral term tbh), he did not have to make a statement about backing from any of his policies or ideologies he stated during his campaigning. He also did not really praise Trump (unlike Trump somewhat praising him) but just said they will work together to make NYC better. How this will play out in terms of ICE and increasing racism is to be seen. He will definitely lose some support because of this but he has four years to make up for this.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Someone called this the love-in that happens in an abusive marriage after the beatings. "Oh, baby, I do this because I love you so much. You and I are just meant to be together."

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    My only fear is that we get another Fetterman incident

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    What the hell is HAPPENING

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Ootl, not that I want to be itl, what's the news this time?

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