She’s looking at the next election.
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She was okay less than 6 months ago, of her voters getting tased at a town hall, and was laughing at them. She is evil and playing a game right now.
“The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is so extremely wrong,” Greene said, “and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.”
Congrats, you helped create the toxic cesspool that is modern politics. Go fuck yourself, cunt, you don't get pass now that it's affecting you personally.
The quote immediately made me think of the video of MTG screaming into the letter slot thing in the door of AOC office demanding she come out and talk to her. This was before MTG was elected and I think in the video she is like eye level with the letter slot screaming like a serial killer in a movie. So yeah idk I'm glad she changing or pretending to change but damn lady do you remember the things you've done?
Humbly, go fuck yourself.
Reflection and repentance is important, but it doesn’t immediately absolve you of all the shit you did to get to this point, and those you hurt and stepped on to get there.
MTG vs AOC would be fun
if you havent been paying attention closely enough to notice that american voters do not want a woman in the white house im not sure what to tell you
I hear this take all the time and frankly I think it's lazy and rooted in the same misogyny that you claim lost both Hilary and Kamala the presidency. 48% of American voters turned out for both Clinton and Harris compared to the 51% turnout for Biden.
Of the three, Biden was the only one who ran during a Republican administration and he had the additional advantage of running against Trump's catastrophic handling of the 2020 COVID pandemic and despite all that he only took an extra 3% of the vote over Clinton and Harris.
On the flip side, both Clinton and Harris ran on maintaining the deeply unpopular status quo under their own party's administration and attempting to appeal to the center-right whilst alienating their own base and taking their vote for granted. Despite that, 48% of American voters still turned out for them and they lost to Trump's 46% in 2016 and <50% in 2024, a less than 2% margin in both cases.
To reduce that nuance to, "they lost because they're women" completely ignores the fact that they ran flawed campaigns in a time of deep dissatisfaction with the status quo that they ran in support of all so you can pin their failure on their gender and perpetuate the idea that women can't be elected to be president, something that at least 75 million American voters disagree with.
Yeah I dont know. I work in a field where I hear a lot of the details of people's employment stories and if I can tell you one universal thing its that women need to be 5x better than a confident sounding man in order to be taken half as seriously.
never underestimate how much the world dislikes a woman who knows more than anything than they do
My most charitable thinking about this is that she s always just playing to win. The way she acted was just that, an act. She did it because she knew it appealed to a particular segment of society that could get her elected. Now there is a sea change she is smart enough to know MAGA is doomed and she had jumped ship early because she thinks it will be more politically advantageous in the long run.
She may be genuinely remorseful if she is good for her, but it doesn't erase the things she had voted for, against, and the things she said that harmed people or incited violence deliberately or accidentally.
That said, she is somewhat uniquely positioned to assist in the deprogramming of MAGA members so, though I don't trust her, the things she is doing and saying today are leading people away from Trump, and that is the most vital mission right now.
Yeah, the apologies are the first step, if she follows through and changes we can decide wgat to do. But as it stands stepping back will at the very least reduce the heat she gets because she only gets it because she's actively been picking fights
Yeah, the apologies are the first step, if she follows through and changes we can decide wgat to do.
she should never be given benefit of the doubt just because she "apologized". her past conduct should not be forgotten, ever, no matter how strategically advantageous it might be for you at the moment. the end does not justify the means.
The means are an attempt at my belief in rehabilitation and forgiveness when possible. Her past conduct is reprehensible, and also I don't believe we should be saying that it's not worth bothering trying to change.
I'm unlikely to ever like her, but fucking hell I'm sick and tired of this pervasive idea that people can never change for the better and even if they do they're still evil. It's carceral bullshit.
She hasn't demonstrated change yet, just announced her intentions, whether true or not. It's worth keeping an eye out and seeing if she actually does change. I'm never going to forget who she has been for the past several years, but just as I believe a murderer should be given the opportunity to become a better person I'll give her the room to do the same or not. It's not like I have any power over her whatsoever.
Her apology and future actions should be considered if she’s ever found guilty and put before a court for sentencing.
Messing up while running for political position should result in a permanent return to private life. There’s a limited number of seats and millions of people who can fill them.
If you give people no credit for admitting they were wrong or give them no chance to atone, then you give them no reason to do it and they will continue down the path they are on. To me it is preferable that she stops being toxic vs her continuing if those are the two choices.
I am not saying she should be forgiven, but if she is genuine, and that remains to be seen (she has a lot of work to do to prove that), then continuing to punish or otherwise vilify her, sends her the message that she's damned is she does and she's damned if she doesn't so why not continue being toxic. Why should she try to be better?
If she continues to atone and does some very positive things in future (again doubtful) there should at least be some consideration given that she may have changed.
If you give people no credit for admitting they were wrong or give them no chance to atone, then you give them no reason to do it and they will continue down the path they are on. To me it is preferable that she stops being toxic vs her continuing if those are the two choices.
i understand this argument, but if you enter politics by being willing to burn the society to the ground for your personal profit, that shouldn't be easy to wave away. at least you shouldn't be able to keep the profit from doing so.
imagine i steel your wallet and then say "oh, i regret that, but i have changed and i am a better person now, so please like me. also i'd like to keep that wallet." that would be clearly absurd, and she is in similar position.
let her go work for the ngo and help poor people, after doing so for as long as she was evil, i may be willing to admit she really changed.
She isn't deprogramming shit. She is leading people away from Trump and toward her because she suspects Trump will be dead soon and she wants to take his place. She "loves Trump" (her words from the view interview). You'd have to be dumber then a liberal to take her at her word.
I didn't actually say she was deprogramming anyone, just that she is in a position where she could.
That said, the fact that she is speaking out against him has unquestionably lead other people to doubt him.
Whether she is trying to take his place is not a point I tried to address directly, but I do believe she is behaving this way because she sees it as a way to further her own political career.
Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said Sunday she will stop using “toxic” rhetoric, marking what would be a dramatic shift in a political brand...
Wow they didn't waste any time dragging her, I love it. 😄
She’s on the oversight committee and has seen the unredacted Epstein files. She’s in survival mode and that means distancing from orange Shittler right now. Nothing more.
“I would like to say, humbly, I’m sorry for taking part in the toxic politics; it’s very bad for our country,” Greene said. “It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.”
Huh, I didn't consider that might be a reason for her "change of heart." Was the first time she started saying things that made sense after he was shot?
It's not a change of heart on white christian nationalist policymaking, so her rhetoric means fuck all.
Yeah, that's why it's in quotes.
Yeah, I'm curious too - I've largely ignored her, so I have no idea if her language changed after Kirk.
Take down Trump as a show of good faith.
Then do Vance. And flush Stephen Miller's head in the toilet while you're at it.
TBF she is publicly pushing for the Trump/Epstein files to help released. I still would like to see a lot more
Of course this is not a MAGA realizing they are a shitty person. It's just self interest to not get assassinated by some lunatic:
and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger [...] It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Deeds, not words.
I'll believe this shit when I see it, which will probably be never.
I'm too old to be fooled by these MAGA morons and their crocodile tears.
/doubt
But if she does change and becomes a good person, I will accept her as a fellow human being. Until I see change, she is a big troll with spork toes.
Its interesting how many conservatives expect to be completely forgiven after helping enable a nazi regime for years.
If this doesn't end in a Nuremberg style trial for all parties involved, the next generation will have to go through all of this shit again.
We shouldn't forgive them.
They need to know that their only hope for acceptance is within their own ranks.
Make an example out of MTG so any republican who wants to admit they're wrong never does so.
We are smart.
Seriously.
I feel like i'm about to be put in a padded room. What the fuck is happening to my reality. what kind of weirdo alternate reality have I woken up to, where MTG of all people is being sane and rational... and has been that way for at least a month or three now.
Do I go outside and start flinging my hands at neighbors and screaming fireball, in the hopes this weird new world I have apparently found myself in has magic?
Would be dope if she actually turns over a new leaf. Im not willing to bet anything on it, but I'm willing to engage in a bit of cautious optimism and see if she lives by those words over the next few years
Cool. Honestly and unironically, I hope so, whatever her reasons. Now go prove it.
Adding "and a christian" makes the rest of that sign redundant.
Kinda crazy thing to say.
It's nuts you're getting down voted for this statement. Christianity actually teaches it's followers to not be traitors or liars. But I guess we ARE on Lemmy, haha.
She still believes and supports insane shit.
She can apologize all she wants, but actions speak louder than words. Until she starts taking action to prove she's sorry, nothing has actually changed.
Nah.
This bitch doesn't get to do that.
If she starts voting with Democrats every single time, I might consider forgiveness.
She isn't looking for your vote, she's looking for my parent's vote and I'm guessing my mom is already campaigning for her. The midwest thinks things have gotten too nasty. I'll ignore the irony of that being what they voted for time and again, but a softer (yet sterner America First) leader, well that's in tune.
Heel turn for MTG to position herself as the next leader of the populist MAGA cult when Trump dies. She sucks in all the same ways, and there is no reason for anyone smarter then a liberal grant her any grace.
Idk I think its fair to say she knows she got elected in the first place for being such an outspoken toxic person. There is a real chance that the people that actually elected her will turn against her if she chooses a different path. Even if she turns a new leaf, the odds of her constituents doing the same, rather than continue blindly following the cult of hate, is not very high
Rats know which way to run on a sinking ship.
My worry now is that the American working class hasn't learned how powerful it could be, and liberal capitalism will reassert itself with slightly more social safety net. At the very least, we should end up with European style social democracy, and even that seems like a low bar.
Can't say I'll ever begrudge anyone for not buying into this. Person like this, she's a symptom and a carrier. Spreading hate, fear, and ignorance.
Her type though is True Believer, and Trust No One. A conspiracy theorist with minimal real education and no faith in systems or the Authority in a Field. She wants so bad to be the good guy, but has failed to identify the structural problems. It has to be people, it has to be demons, it has to be the Joos. She's just hitting out now that the real bad guys have self-identified.
When she starts seeing the problems in the system that led to the ascendency of the bad guys then I'll be more interested in her face turn. Right now she's still too people focused to trust she won't just revert or find someone new to fawn over.
I wish her luck on this journey.
+2 for looking in hindsight, but +2 does very little when you're sitting at -297
She's positioning herself for running as Vance's VP in 2028. That's it.
She hasn't had a change of heart, she doesn't warrant us "giving her a chance," she's not "okay for a republican."
NOTHING has changed.
She's an unapologetic white supremacists who is happily employed by the billionaire class.
She'll never have my vote for any number of reasons, but to see anyone as deep in the maga cult as her demonstrate any amount of growth... even if she falls back into old patterns at some point... it says something hopeful about steering this ship away from our current course if even she can gain the self awareness and humility to regret participating in these vitriolic forms of politics. Maybe, then, our parents and neighbors can see enough of the light to realize what this is bringing about, where we're headed, and have the humility to admit that they need to stop and to do better. It's only the smallest glimmer of hope, but it's more than my increasingly cynical ass has had in a minute. Keep working on yourself Marge, but glad to see the baby steps being taken.
Oh fuck off. The hateful bigot senses an opportunity to split off for her own benefit, nothing more.
Remember when MTG screamed at an 18 year old David Hogg that he was funded by George Soros? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Oh she's off the coke. Good for her
No she's gearing up for a Senate run. Trying to clean up her image so she's more appealing to the voters in her state and not just the backwards assholes that she represents in backwater Georgia.
Bullshit. She's a Republican, and lies easier than breathing. Believe NOTHING she says.
While I have my strong doubts and nothing will erase the harm of what's he's done already, I think we should encourage anyone that says something like this, especially if they are in a position of power. Sincerely hope shes able to make these words reality.




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