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[–] 78 points 11 months ago

AI driving a wedge into modern digital infrastructure

Original from xkcd

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  • [–] 108 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Made me angrier than it should have.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    @CurlyWurlies4All Relevant essay from Ed Zitron. It's well-worth a read, for those who haven't already.wheresyoured.at/never-forgive-The picture I am trying to paint is one of terror and abuse. The average person’s experience of using a computer starts with aggressive interference delivered in a shoddy, sludge-like frame, and as the wider internet opens up to said user, already battered by a horrible user experience, they’re immediately thrown into heavily-algorithmic feeds each built to con them, feeding whatever holds their attention and chucking ads in as best they can. As they browse the web, websites like NBCnews.com feature stories from companies like “WorldTrending.com” with advertisements for bizarre toys written in the style of a blog, so intentional in their deceit that the page in question has a huge disclaimer at the bottom saying it’s an ad.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Using the computer in the modern age is so inherently hostile that it pushes us towards corporate authoritarians like Apple, Microsoft, Google and Meta — and now that every single website is so desperate for our email and to show us as many ads as possible, it’s either harmful or difficult for the average person to exist online.

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    [–] 43 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm reading Cory Doctorow's latest book, Enshittification. As Ed Zitron said, never forgive them for what they did to the internet...

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Listened to it on a long drive. I knew all of the big players were sketchy, but did not expect the degree to which they are. Google "brand-matching" searches (adding invisible brand names to search queries) to direct people to brands' sites and then charging those same brands for "more traffic" is just cartoon villain level shit.

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Normally i don't read a wall of text in post images, but damn. Every sentence is true.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah the wall of text is the medium for this art piece and it’s very effective.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It really matches the exhaustion of dealing with tech in 2025.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    it's not "tech", it's capitalism. tech works fine. you can see this with linux and fediverse and such. it's companies making everything into a subscription service that sucks.

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  • [–] 87 points 11 months ago (17 children)

    I wonder how much more they need to do before more people start using tools like uBlock and such. The internet is practically unusable without it, and I'm not using hyperbole--most websites have so much garbage on them that you literally can't read them without an ad blocker and/or reading mode.

    Since Google removed support for ad blockers, I convinced my wife to switch to Firefox. She noticed a huge improvement immediately, especially on mobile.

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  • [–] 54 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I went as far as installing network level ad blocking on both my home network as well as devices.

    Recently, I've had a few friends over whom are... not as technologically adept. They were incredibly surprised that after joining my guest WiFi, suddenly they were able to browse most websites almost completely unobstructed. No ads, no popups, no BS. Aside from the usual cookie agreements, of course.

    If you can, help your friends, install ad blockers for them, make their internet experience better. Even DNS level adblocking is relatively easy to set up, and the only thing this hurts is the unscrupulous megacorporations that want to milk you for every single bit of personal information to sell.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    The reason I haven't installed DNS level blocks is I'm always worried they will break random content and it'll be harder to debug. Have you experienced that?

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    A few, mostly for my mother who wanted those email ads where she got points or whatever for clicking on them.

    On the pihole, I just disable it for 5 minutes (there's a button) and then see if it works. If it does. Then I look at the logs for what it blocks on a load. If not, it wasn't the DNA blocker.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Look at piHole to get started. It runs on a raspberry pi and acts as your dns server. It blocks so much garbage. You add and remove sites on whitelist and blacklist, use 3rd party block lists. If you think dns is causing an issue, switch to a public dns temporarily is easy. And its free.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    It's not terribly difficult if you're the one who set up the pihole or equivalent. But I typically use adblockers on end devices because they're easier for other people to use (toggling a browser extension is accessible to most people, especially if I pin it to the menu bar).

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Also be aware, DNS is pretty vital for using the Internet, if the thing hosting your DNS goes down, your Internet and any internal name based routing goes down too unless you know how to circumvent it.

    Make sure the pihole doesn't get unplugged basically.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I've only had network level ad blocking break online retail sites. Not every one but especially the ones that load separate frames for the CC processor on the check out screen. Blocking trackers breaks clicking on ads in email and search results though which a surprising number of guests have complained about.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    My friend hates it, because it breaks some sites and services. Everytime he's here he says "oh, right.. you got that blocker thing on the network", because he hit a snag once again.

    I'm not sure what he does or how he uses the internet, but I don't even notice that it's there.

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    Pihole is great, except my wife can't turn it off if it breaks something (at least not without Extra work to set it up on my end). And when she leaves our wifi, she's stuck with ads again.

    That's why I typically recommend end-device adblockers. Easier for most users to use and configure.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I get it. I had complaints from someone in my house too because they wanted the ads. I tried to explain that it was more than just ads but they didn't care. I whitelisted their devices and let it go. There are also some connected devices that need to phone home in order to operate. These get reluctantly whitelisted too.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I don't experience all of what OP is talking about because I use a VPN, ad block, sponsor block and use masked emails for almost all my signups.

    Doesn't fix everything but certainly helps make living in today's digital exp system less horrific.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I think the point is that you have to do all of that in order to use the internet at all. And even then, it's still a lot worse than it was even 5 years ago.

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    It's this extreme enshittification that made me sail the high seas again

    It's not that I want to

    It's not that I don't want to pay

    It's not that the seas are cheap

    It's not that the seas are easy

    It's hard, it's expensive (storage is cheap until you need to store boat loads of 20-40GB files, it takes huge amounts of time and has become a hobby because that's what it takes.

    I would gladly pay a single provider 100/month for all my series, movies, music, etc and always have access to everything everywhere without ads but the providers literally fucked us over on each and every one of those items so I'm done.

    Aarrrr mateys, all aboard!

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    No chance @ 100/month. At that money, I want my dick sucked as well. Netflix used to be just 5.99 a month. I let it run for months even when I wasnt watching it because, fuck it. Its only 5 bucks. Not its what, 20? Fuck that. And thats before you get to all the other shit.

    I spent 300 on a 22gb HDD and havent looked back. Sonarr downloads whatever tv shows Im watching, and I play it through plex or infuse. Both of which I paid the 100 for the lifetime sub. Other than that, I pay for internet and power. I also pay 45 a year for an iptv sub. Im in the UK, so thats 45 for the year to watch football that would cost me 50 per month to watch legally, and I still wouldnt get to see every game.

    All of these greedy cunts have created this world of the high seas. But in order to get people away from it, it would have to nowhere near 100 a month. Theres no way Im chipping in for some fat CEOs fucking boat, just to watch tv. They can charge a fair rate, or they can fuck off.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I spent 300 on a 22gb HDD and havent looked back.

    I hope that was a typo. If not you got ripped off. And depending on what your sonars finds you're going to run out of storage fast.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I have some 100TB available right now and built a bit of a personal collection as a hobby, finding obscure.movies and shows nobody has heard of world wide, American, Canadian, Mexican, Danish, German, Japanese, etc.

    It gets costly quickly, and takes huge swaths of time but it's awesome having such a broad cluster of media available, this is what a Netflix type provider should have.

    The 100/month is just to say that money never was an issue, I just want to have access to any media that I want instead of the bullshit we have now where providers must fuck around with their users to get the maximum amount of revenue

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Reject consumerism, embrace FOSS.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago*

    Many of the reasons OSS and OSH are so critical to a post-information world.

    Our governments' failure to protect our rights from corporations is monumental. And when politicians are captured by money and not the people, we have no choice but to do things ourselves.

    Hence dbzer0's mission and vision! Come join!

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's the wild west all over again until they establish law and order in the tech world. No standards, just everyone trying to make their millions (billions nowadays?). I can' help but think the end result of all this is an empty husk of a planet, floating dead through space because people wanted to collect money tokens of various values and denominations.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago*

    Yeah capital is basically free to inject unwanted messages as often and as long as they want.

    It's time theft, indoctrination, intrusion, invasion, mind control, etc.

    I really don't understand people who feel some "moral" obligation to cooperate.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    What the fuck is with that write an email to cancel your account by the way? Seriously what the fuck is that? I ran into that a few months ago and I was so fucking furious.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If they put enough hurdles in the way, you might not bother deleting your account so they can continue to sell your info, bill you for subscriptions (gym memberships for example), or just pad their user numbers making them look bigger/more popular than they are for investors.

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    [–] 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    The internet used to be anything we wanted it to be

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    it's hard to overstate how fortunate we are that the fundamental infrastructure of the internet is decentralized and extensible, it means it's incredibly difficult for corporations to ever truly kill the free internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yep, this right here.

    For me and my brain's secret blend of eleven herbs and neurospices, I am most content when my world is small but I am intensely focused on the people/pets/things in it.

    So in the physical world, I work a lot on my house and yard to make it my family's happy enriching little oasis. We're involved in the community, especially the local elementary school, which is close enough to walk my kid to. (my middle aged american mind cannot comprehend this walkability witchcraft /s... but seriously I have to drive to every other destination))

    On the internet, while I do still exist in the eyes of Meta and Google -- it may NOT surprise you to learn that Facebook is the center of the internet for my corner of white conservative suburbia, including for local official organizations -- I choose to only open Lemmy when I want to just BS and read opinions online.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    I FUCKING HATE HAVING TO DELETE MY ACCOUNT BY SENDING EMAILS IN A LENGTHY AND UNNECESSARY SUPPORT TICKET EMAIL CHAIN

    give me a button. give. me. a. delete. acount. button. I am asking this not of the corporations, but of the government. Right to be forgotten should mandate making it convenient. When I want to delete my account I click Delete Account and recieve a confirmation email. I click the link in the email. My account gets deleted right then and there.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago

    Spot on summary

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Embrace free software and piracy. No account needed. No ads. No spam.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Google has mostly killed off the piracy option. Any Invidious instance that gets traction gets cut off by Google.

    The FOSS option is newpipe, but if you use that over Tor (for privacy from Google), Google blocks connections.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Unlock Origin for browsers (mobile and desktop)

    NextDNS or PiHole (for everything)

    FOSS apps for ad free apps that do exactly what the ad-full and premium apps do but free

    And minimize usage of software that sells your data wherever possible

    Everyone needs to be doing these things. Corporations gaslight folks into thinking they need ads and your info to upkeep and improve their services, but it isn't true. They pocket the revenue while making their products shittier and shittier.

    Don't support shitty buisinesses

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    Strange to read your comment then notice that you are writing that from Cloudflare’s centralised walled garden. Not supporting corporate technofeudal shitholes entails staying outside of Cloudflare.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    We do not ask for this capitalist Internet. We were good at year 2.000 where most of the content were made by and for fans because they love what they were doing.

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    Youtube is not full of ads.

    This comment was brought to you by Invidious gang.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    No ads on my side, either.

    This comment was brought to you by the uBlock Origin gang.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Team Kodi checking in. Also on team ad blockers.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago

    This is why I'm angry and weirdly into Cybersecurity practices.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's all so tiring, honestly...

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Steal what you can, live without the rest. Its shockingly easy to unplug from the majority of platforms.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Its shockingly easy to unplug from the majority of platforms.

    FYI, you’re using the most abusive privacy abusing platform in silicon valley: Cloudflare. I suggest leaving lemmy.world.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Oh word? Perhaps I will switch then.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    If you go to lemmyverse.net and click TAGS next to a funnel icon, you can then select to /hide/ Cloudflare tags (in which case it’s not hiding the tags but actually hiding nodes that have the CF tag). That is one way to find a Cloudflare-free Lemmy instance.

    I personally fetched the dataset, imported it into a DB, then I had the freedom to specify all the criteria I want in my searches.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'm sorry, but this is kinda epic.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    I think I encounter at least one of these phrases daily. The internet is so fucking gross.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it's not looking great right now. For spotify on pc I use blockify, which makes the ads silent and about one second long. It does just kind of break whenever this one ad tries to play, but you just have to reload the site. For the visual ads on pc, I use ublock origin, which works well. On mobile, I use this app called newpipe instead of youtube. Patreons and memberships are so that the creators get more money. Some of them need the money, some of them obviously don't. Ai features and dogshit updates are everywhere, and I hate it. I don't personally have any workarounds for them. Shows and movies can just be pirated using one of the sites on yarrlist and an adblocker. Only being able to play games with wifi, yeah, that's pretty annoying. The account stuff sucks ass. Things are in fact, shit.

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