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[–] 77 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In Russia they just get pushed out of windows these days.

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile, the most recent execution in the US was literally yesterday lmao

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    [–] 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I think I'd rather be guillotined than shit or hanged.

    Can one of y'all let the state know.

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  • [–] 32 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    kinda wish the color was by year instead of method.

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    This was fun and made me curious about the state of the death penalty here in Sweden, and so I had a look at Wikipedia.

    While the last execution was on the 23rd of November 1910, the death penalty itself wasn't outlawed until 1975, Wikipedia quoting the phrase "death penalties may not occur." It also goes on to explain that before cell prisons and the penal law from 1864 was put into action, taking someone's freedom was relatively uncommon and even for minor crimes your options were usually fines or execution. Yikes.

    It lists examples of some crimes that'd get you the death penalty, some of which are terms I've not heard before.

    • Hädelse (blasphemy)
    • Tidelag (bestiality)
    • Trolldom (witchcraft)
    • Blodskam, lit. 'blood shame' (incest)
    • Tvegifte, two-marriage (bigamy)

    The last death by hanging happened in Scania 1836, a farmhand was executed for robbery-murder.

    The last public execution was the 18th of May 1876, where two people were executed Gustav Hjert outside of Malmköping in Södermanland, and his accomplice, Konrad Tector outside of Visby, Gotland. They were both serial criminals; forgery, arson, robbery, theft, murder. They were both decapitated. The year after in 1877 a law was put in place so that executions could no longer be performed in public.

    I'm a bit blown away that an execution happened in Malmköping. Some years back I rented a furniture storage there. It's a tiny place, somewhere between a very small town and a village.

    The last woman to be executed, Anna Månsdotter, was executed in 1890, convicted for having murdered her step daughter. Her son was also convicted for the same crime, but he was granted a lifetime sentence for penal work instead. It highlights that it was the first execution carried out by Anders Gustaf Dahlman, who also carried out the very last execution in Sweden to date.

    So the last execution to date was in late 1910, was carried out by Anders using a guillotine (after King Oscar II in 1906 proclaimed that future executions will only be carried out mechanically). Alfred Ander, the victim was sentenced to death for a murder-robbery of a woman. He'd previously had a few stints in prison for "various minor crimes." His wife attested that he was an abusive alcoholic, and that she'd previously feared that he'd end up killing her.

    Now, there were people sentenced to death after 1910, but they were never executed.

    Hilda Nilsson the "angel maker" was sentenced to death in 1917, for having murdered seven children, and man-slaughtered(?) one. An "angel maker" is someone who assumes care for foster children, and then don't. She hung herself a shortly after being convicted.

    The last man to be sentenced to death was Mohammed Beck Hadjetlaché who Wikipedia says was born either in 1868 or 1872 (he apparently provided two different birth years) in Constantinople. He was responsible for the deaths of three Russian citizens, with another four suspected and unaccounted for. His execution turned into a lifetime prison sentence. While in prison he wrote a book where he defended his crimes, and he later died in prison in 1929.


    Honestly, skimming through all of these people's articles there's so much you could learn. Hadjetlaché was anti-communist, and operated some kind of facility for anti-Bolchevik people seeking refuge from Russia. He also operated some kind of magazine?

    There's notes about the last two publicly executed people having had their bodies taken away for experimentation.

    There's also a bunch about executions prior to the 1700s, including an infuriatingly short sentence just saying "Even children could be executed, for example a 12-year old in Kävlinge during the 1300s." with no further links or information on the matter.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Wrong Lemmy headline, the graphic is about "death penalty for non military crimes", which implies that there were death penalty executions after those years on the map.

    As an example, in Belgium the last execution was in 1950, by firing squad. The Belgian state had extended the state of war to be able to put war criminals & collaborators in front of military tribunals. That last 1918 execution by guillotine was also ordered by a military tribunal, it was a Belgian soldier who had murdered one of his two fiancées plus her unborn child: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Ferfaille Had he not been a soldier, he would most likely not have been executed. The last execution in Belgium that was ordered by a civil court happened in 1863.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    To further add to your argument, the last execution during peacetime in Finland was in 1825.

    The last execution was indeed by firing squad in 1943, but that was still wartime, and the last two executed were for treason and the other for six murders. Capital punishment during wartime was on the books until early 70's.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Civil + military capital punishment was only officially abolished in 1996 in Belgium, so about 133 years between the decision to stop doing it , and actually putting that into law. And a few months after the law was officially changed, the serial murderer + pedophile Dutroux was arrested, after which there was a lot of public support for the death penalty again. A bit of fortunate timing in unfortunate times.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Latest in Russia was like yesterday

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Ohh those are years. I thought they were kill counts.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    So what were the beheadings that weren't guillotine? Did they still have a guy in a black hood chop off heads with a huge axe?

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    In Norway it looks like its an axe. However the graphic isn't 100% because Norway did carry out some executions in the 40s by shooting. Course they were Nazis so do they even count?

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    The state shouldn't have the legal ability to regularly kill people as part of the justice process.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Belarus still stuck in the 20th century...

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Tuscany (today a region of the Italian Republic) was the first (then) country in the wold to abolish death penalty in 1786.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Tang dynasty China has you beat by a millennia. Yeah it didn't stick, but neither did independent Tuscany.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Nice, I could not find anything about it tho, do you have a source? It's interesting

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, Portugal way ahead of the curve. Iceland too, but that might be a size thing.

    Did Germany ever do guillotining on it's own, or was it just in the French occupation zone?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    This lad was executed by the 'garrote' because of killing a policemanin 1974. For some reason a military crime under Franco's regime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Puig_Antich

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Wow, the guillotine was more popular than I imagined.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    We Dutch really miss the barbeques after a “gezellige” execution.

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    Well... BRD considered DDR an illegal occupation whose decisions never took place. For example in the ID cards people born in Karl-Marx-Stadt suddenly said they are born in Chemnitz, because the reunified Germany considered that the city had never legally changed its name.

    So, if we take that interpretation, then the 1972 should not be mentioned at all, because it was not done by a legitimate state apparatus but was more like a wild murder instead. This, if we take the BRD view to the situation. This has the nice effect of censoring a bad deed DDR did.

    We could of course also claim that the last execution in BRD took place in 1972. But, ehm... Does that really make more sense than just letting all reunified countries be shown in their pre-reunification form so that the deeds of murderous regimes won't get whitewashed?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah. Fuck belarus, and russia, and china, and united states... Fuck every country basically. Only relatively a few people are true people in this cold place, so hold onto them as long as it's possible

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    No drawing and quartering? Amateurs.

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