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[–] 168 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yep. Make better choices at the ballot box. Unimpressed with your options in the ballot box? Make better choices in the primaries.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago

    They can make a better choice this Tuesday (and, more importantly, in the mid-terms next year)

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Have you tried not being poor?

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

    This person sounds like a grifter and has now found a more receptive audience.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This tracks because the GOP is the party of unqualified illtempered pedo loving dipshits.. They target the vulnerable because they cherish them as delicacies. Then they blame the victim to assuage their atrophying pangs of guilt about how selfish and selfserving they've become in life and everything.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Lindy Li is so FOCKING insane and desperate for anyone to like to her. She was a Dem fundraiser for years, and after realizing that just working in the party wasn't going to get her accepted as a candidate to get into office (because of her insanity), she switched to this ultra-MAGA psycho BS she's spouting today.

    It's attention whoring at its lowest in order to try and get into office anyway she can. She's not well liked enough due to her clear mental instability, so she thinks hating on whomever the "other side" is will curry enough favor to get a fast track to...something.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    well there you go. Sounds like she made some bad life choices.

    And to be fair, she'll probably go far. Look at Steven Cheung. The more incompetent, foul-mouthed, and insane you are the more they want you out front.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Somehow I dbout MAGAs plan to vote for an Asian woman no matter how crazed and on their level she is. Only chance she's got is though Trump directly, but she's not white note plastic enough to make it on that level

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They're the type of nonwhite who believe they're "the good ones" and will be accepted if they try hard enough. They desperately wish they were born white. They may not realize it but they will never be fully accepted.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

    Grifting clear as day

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    FUCKING... this is the god damned grown up internet where you can fucking swear all the fuck day long. This self censoring shit can stay on god damned reddit and youtube.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

    Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction? I’m not talking about things like the Lincoln project or changes made up to age 25 or so, but actual significant leftward movement from adult politicians.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You can never trust her again. She doesn't believe in ideology, she just wants power and is willing to go to any side and any length to get what she feels entitled to.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don’t worry, that’s not why I’m asking. No, she’s a rat forever.

    I just wonder if it’s always in this direction. My suspicion is that it tends to flow from more discerning parties to less discerning parties, and in the US right now, the republicans are the least discerning of the national parties. I could see people moving from actual leftist parties to the greens (in the places where the greens are either liberal or controlled opposition) in other countries, I’m not sure if they’re leftist in some countries), but that’s still a rightward move.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think Graham Platner, if you take his word for what is in his past and present political mindsets, would be an example of a right-to-left swing, but not done as a politician. Shaun on YouTube is another one that comes to mind potentially, depending on how old he is for whether that qualifies as an under age 25. In the US at least, we don't really have a strong left wing to draw in people looking for a change, so most of those conversions are happening less in the public sphere and more in corners of the internet, where it hasn't been enshittified to ensure even those spaces are dominated by tight wing narratives

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    That’s part of why I’m asking- the vast majority of leftists I know grew up in right wing or centrist circles and moved left on their own, but I don’t know if there are politicians who really reflect that.

    Actually, Graham Platner is very relevant and I’m interested in whether people trust him enough to elect him and whether he stays true to the principles he ran on.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Elizabeth Warren was a Republican who thought people used bankruptcy as a means of escaping personal liability.

    Warren later recalled that she had begun her research believing that most people filing for bankruptcy were either working the system or had been irresponsible in incurring debts, but that she concluded that such abuse was in fact rare and that the legal framework for bankruptcy was poorly designed, describing the way the research challenged her fundamental beliefs as "worse than disillusionment" and "like being shocked at a deep-down level".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

    It was after that Elizabeth Warren moved to become more progressive about how bankruptcy laws and financial regulations.

    Widely regarded as a progressive, she was previously a registered Republican, changing her registration to Democrat in 1996. According to Warren, in the six presidential elections she voted in before 1996, she cast her ballot for just one GOP nominee—Gerald Ford in 1976. Her conservatism at the time was not rooted in social issues like abortion or gay rights, but rather on economic policy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Elizabeth_Warren

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction?

    I just learned today that Hitler was a lefty in his early days. True story.

    He was always anti-Semitic though. That wasn't unusual for the times however.

    Someone describing themselves as a tree hugging progressive railing against supporting society's most vulnerable can go and fuck themselves with a fishing rod though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You'd be looking at some early 20th century interpretations of leftism though, which is an important nuance. Lenin was a member of the Russian Social Democrats, but most people probably wouldn't attribute his legacy to Social Democracy.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Someone should starve this gop strategist and see how loyal they stay.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ‘ years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.’

    Lindy Li was a part of Harris’s campaign. Within the time period of them losing the election -> the inauguration she was already a part of Trumps team.

    She has zero credibility and is just a token former Democrat for the GOP to parade around. Disgusting.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, that's a very good demonstration on the common values of these supposedly different groups. Their class solidarity is strong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, it's a good demonstration on their common lack of values. They have no class solidarity and will turn on anyone who has helped them in the past if they think they'll get ahead.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Dude, you can't be satisfied by bites of moral superiority, it isn't useful to you. Class solidarity doesn't mean that they have solidarity with you because they strive for unity or whatever, it means that they have solidarity with people in the same socioeconomic class as themselves. Yes, they are self-interested and they exclude people who are not in their class from positions of power within the state. They correctly identify that most Americans have been neglected functional knowledge on how their system works -- both literally as in the state and philosophically/sociologically as in how ideas work and why certain people subscribe to certain values -- and make use of a "two-party" system to occlude their common interest in capital and hegemony. Democrats and Republicans do not differ on fundamental principles of how society should work, and they share those principles with anyone alive who hoards wealth because they all are in a class that is constructed through wealth hoarding, that's the solidarity.

    That someone can work for either party without missing a step demonstrates that there is not a fundamental difference between the two in a very funny way.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    woman of color serving as strategist for the racist party... seems like she could make better choices.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    “I have a very hard time believing that the 42 million people who are on SNAP all qualify,” Li said, speaking on Newsmax. “Someone on Newsmax said last night [that] maybe people should start making better choices so they don't have to rely on the government day in and day out. What happened to personal responsibility? It used to be an American ideal!”

    “We have to be very clear what's happening here: they built a dependency empire, and it is crumbling right now! And President Trump isn't starving kids – he's starving socialist beasts,” Li said.

    “He's starving the handouts for millions of illegal aliens; why are we putting them first when we have so many Americans – millions of Americans – suffering on the streets? Why are we prioritizing illegals? That is a question that Democrats need to answer.”

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    If I was able to become king I would levy 2000% taxes on news corporations that openly allow misinformation to be spread on their platform. I am so sick of this absolute lying they allow on the “news”. Illegal immigrants DONT QUALIFY FOR SNAP, WIC, OR MEDICARE/MEDICAID.

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is the choice to not vote Republican again? Because yes, I agree with the better choices argument there.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Hopefully all the people that voted Republican make a better choice next time and vote all the Confederates out.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Yzma: "It is none of MY concern whether your family has...what was it again?" Peasant: "Uhh, food?" Yzma: "HAH! You really should have thought of that before you became peasants!"

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Shes right. They should have made a better choice in who to vote for.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I saw her in many debates. She is very dumb

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    “Just get richer parents if you wanna eat, kiddo. What’s wrong with you?”

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Wow. She probably never had to work in her lifetime...

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I was just arguing with my mom about this and she said it's good people are losing the benefits because she knows people don't need SNAP, despite needing them herself.

    She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.

    Reporting the abuse it wasn't an option.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    perhaps worth pointing out too… focusing on the minimal abuse as a reason the whole program should be cut is very american. i think the rest of the world the attitude is much more that a thing is necessary and abuse is a cost of doing business (like shoplifting: just because there’s some shoplifting doesn’t mean you close the whole store)… it’s very much nobody “undeserving” should get rewarded before people need help

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    PPP got abused too but for some reason they never bitch about that

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    had to search for that :p yeah aye - we had the same in aus (called jobkeeper)… our conservatives introduced it, and it was hugely successful at keeping people employed but also massively abused by big companies

    https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/09/03/jobkeeper-rorts

    i think this quote pretty accurately describes it

    JobKeeper is both the largest rort in Australian history and the most successful job saver

    overall there were some reports written about it after the fact: lessons learned etc, but i think people don’t really blame the conservatives for the abuse… it was a programme that was quickly conceived of, and implemented very fast and it achieved a very important purpose. was it wasteful? sure… was it or something like it necessary? also very much yes

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I have a business that was fully shut down for the pandemic quarantine, and I applied for PPP numerous times, and got turned down for a different reason every time. If the PPP wasn't meant for businesses like mine, who were directly closed because of the quarantine, than who was it intended for?

    Then I realized - It was a MAGA program, of course it was a scam. It wasn't meant for me, I'm an honest, ethical business owner.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yeah that sounds about like the line of reasoning I'd expect from conservatives in my family. The problem is that you gave them something at all. They made you a sucker. Stop helping people. etc.

    They'd just terminate the thought there, and not move on to wonder if it could it be some other problem the system could help them with other than today's cart of groceries. My goodness, they might accidentally save a life and not even know it!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.

    That problem is easy to solve. Just stop telling that lie, because that's the only way that situation exists. It's a complete MAGA fantasy.

    And if your mother gets SNAP, and is happy it's gone, remember that about three weeks from now, when she's begging you to buy her groceries. If you buy her anything, make it a big pack of ramen, and a couple of tins of sardines.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Billionaires always out there telling people to have more kids. Billionaires out there always trying to defund and destroy everything that helps kids. Billionaires are always out there grifting all the tax money and getting the politicians they own to destroy social safety nets. Billionaires always out there raping kids. Billionaires always out there jacking up the prices on food, water, utilities, healthcare and housing. Billionaires always out there refusing to pay a wage that allows people to survive in their rigged system. Maybe the better choice we should make is not having billionaires.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “Republican strategist”……

    😂

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    They're a bunch of scum-sucking motherless goats, but strategically, they're running rings around the Democratic Party. Having a fucking insane strategy still beats having no strategy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Your president is the king of avoiding personal responsibility, Lindy. Shut the fuck up.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    GOP strategist tells Americans about to lose food assistance to make ‘better choices’

    Like voting.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, but you often find the people who need the help are least inclined to vote for it.

    I remember a story from a few years ago, some article about poverty. A disabled guy from Liverpool, unable to work, his 12 year old daughter was having to collect from the food bank for him, no heating. "I voted for the Conservatives, I just think they're best for the country", he said, presumably while applying his clown make-up.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah like choose to find places that will hire you rather than ones that say they went with someone else. Duh.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    For once I agree. We need to never let republicans anywhere near power ever again. Our country made terrible choices there

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lindy Li, huh?

    I'm gonna remember that name when I have nothing else to lose.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Choices like "GOP strategists should be ignored by everyone". This is the nice version.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Hey hungry people who cannot afford food, look at my fancy new ballroom that you paid for!

    -tRump, effectively.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Bad choices of those on SNAP…

    1. Joined military to serve my country and this is how they treat me!
    2. Worked for government, got DOGE’d, and no one is hiring!
    3. Picked the wrong birth parents and at 6 no one will hire me!
    4. Lost job over 50 and those kids won’t hire me!
    5. Lost job to AI and I went to Standford!
    6. Pro-life and kept my baby! 7)…fill in the blank
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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let's stop pretending like MAGA republicans are upset about the state of SNAP. They get to destroy a program that they already wanted to destroy and get to try and pin the blame on Democrats in the process. It's a win win for them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Another clueless twat who thinks those decisions can be anything other than starvation.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lindi li needs to have some empathy slapped into her with a shovel.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Like living in a better country maybe

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    "He's starving the handouts for millions of illegal aliens; why are we putting them first when we have so many Americans – millions of Americans – suffering on the streets? Why are we prioritizing illegals? That is a question that Democrats need to answer.”

    Erm....you aren't helping the Americans either lady

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    I want to choose what family to be born in, but apparently I can't.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I'm not American, but how do you spell "eat shit"? I want every GOP voter to "eat shit", cause the plague is spreading even to my longitudes. Help me out, thanks in advance.

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    I know the USA's media landscape is extremely fucked but still, I'm amazed "starving socialist beasbeasts" isn't called out for the raving lunacy that it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'm surprised Maga hasn't deported her yet

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Better choices like killing the people who put them there?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    How about this alternative:

    Eat The Rich.

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    These fucking commie leftists just want handouts from MY TAXES (if i paid taxes). Grease soaked cardboard is edible, and there is nothing in the bible about cannibalism, Clarisse...

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