The last bit really speaks to me. "So they want a cookie for basic behavior??" YES THEY'RE CHILDREN. COOKIES ARE THE DRIVING MARKET FORCE IN PRETEENS. GIVE THE KID THE DAMN COOKIE.

Struthless has a really good video about this. I've seen it happen to the young men in my life first-hand. To my siblings, my friends, and - yes - even to myself at one point. And that hole is a hell of a lot harder to climb out of than it is to fall into, and I'm very lucky to have had some good, caring people in my life who helped me to do it. An uncomfortable truth that we on the left must face, is that this is an issue that will only get worse the longer we pretend it doesn't exist.

Big reason why I try to report and shutdown blatantly misandrist shit I see in leftist spaces. It's not clever, it's not funny, maybe it feels good for the person saying it but there is no difference in my eyes between a misandrist and a misogynist. Putting people down based upon intrinsic characteristics they cannot change is the exact kind of behavior done by conservatives.

Heartbreaking: A Twitch Streamer Just Made a Great Point

They hated him because he said the truth (and didn't hand over his platform to someone "more marginalized" after one single drama).

God damn this hits hard. I was seriously in danger of falling down that hole as a kid, because kids are stupid and the right talks confidently and ad naseum. Also my father wasn't exactly a stalwart of progressive ideals. I'm so very thankful for being a Mama's boy, she is probably the reason I'm not the typical chud I look like.

With that being said, this is also a societal problem when so many parents offload their parenting to the web. And I say societal because it is not often times not the parent's fault as having to work extended hours or multiple jobs just to provide the necessities.

It's really a feature, not a flaw, of the right's long term plan. Stupid people vote for stupid things.

Years ago I argued that misandrist feminist rhetoric (e.g. all men are rapists) was going to wind up creating a misogynistic counter-culture.

These days, I watch it unfold and just feel very very sad as it will ruin lives.

This is a civil discussion on the internet. It is possible it seems.

So this is clearly personal to many people in this thread but I'm just going to point out objectively and non judgementally that Vaush and other participants misrepresent the argumemt made by the original poster.

The original poster specifically refers to men. Vaush's response either intentionally or unintentionally responds to to an argument not made by the original poster by referring to 12 year old boys.

This is actually fairly low level discourse because the entire reply chain is responding to a strawman. If anyone has any further insight I'd be happy to hear it. I think we need to elevate our reading comprehension if we're going to have meaningful conversations about this.

Be nice and encouraging when talking about people. Saying mean-sounding things puts people off. Yes, even when it's really important people get the severity of something. Talk about the people who are suffering and the people who are actively doing it. Encourage people to think about how they might end up doing terrible things and how to prevent that. I know it feels so fucking wrong to be a politician about your most basic values, but there's a reason politicians are the way they are: they get shit done that way.

A big part of this is that parts of the Democrat base loves to actively sabotage any Democrat outreach efforts, because they are more interested in smug fart sniffing than strategic pragmatism.

I like anarchy because I can trace a short line to a systemic failure in any instance

we need to talk to each other like we're babies. and babies are the smartest people of all, deserving the utmost respect and kindness.

edit: I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT

LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As someone raised as a white Christian male: no, I have never felt like people were calling me evil, shunning me, or pushing me away because I am white, Christian, or male. That is such a bullshit take and people need to not tolerate that persecution complex nonsense.

Assholes get called assholes for being assholes, and instead of any sort of introspection they blame it on them being "white" or "male," because to them being a white male means they get to be an asshole and everyone else just has to accept it.

I feel like "the right is willing to use manipulation, misinformation, and coercion on children while the left isn't" is not quite the argument these users think it is. Certainly we shouldn't be demonizing young white boys but tbh I've seen very little if any of that behavior. If a person gets censored and banned from communities because they shared the funny nazi emoji then that should be a learning moment for them, I don't think it should be in the hands of the minorities, which those children are actively harassing on public platforms, to be the Daryl Davis in their lives.

The difference between liberal feminism and leftist feminism.

Left is so othering. They want to qualify and categorise everything and everyone they meet. Stick name and stat tags on everyone so they can easily see where they belong on a purity hierarchy (which they are obviously queen of)

Source: cishet intj whtmle veg/choice/vax millennial leftist.

What is hidden here is the minimum age to use Twitch is 13.

It isn't important because it needs enforcement or something, but it does gesture towards the notion your generalized average 12 year olds are still too much of a child to be roaming Twitch.

It isn't the early days of the internet anymore. Safety is not guaranteed.

See how nice tumblr is?

Can someone please steal Twitter's url and redirect it there?