This is not slop, this is political misinformation disinformation. Call it what it is.
Slop is annoying, but it's just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.
This is not slop, this is political misinformation disinformation. Call it what it is.
Slop is annoying, but it's just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.
Republicans want to hate so badly, they'll literally create fiction to manifest it and be the victims...
Always have. Most of them have never met the people they've been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token "good ones".
Right they hate these straw people. I mean, I;m not going to say my own cognitive projection of "conservative" is 100% accurate, but at least my nightmare scenarios are about actual bad things happening, and not like conservative nightmares of genetically inferior people getting to enjoy the gifts of civilization.
What's wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it's being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look "cringy" or more like a stereotype.
It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don't know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.
The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don't get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I'll have no part in it.
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit
You'd need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission...
With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison
If Lemmy, or any other fediverse social network, ever got that big, you would be guaranteed there would be plenty of splinters of de-federation in the network. There would be small networks totally isolated from the mainstream cluster, and others that only federate parts of it. You could choose to hang out in some counter-cultural bubble, or choose a curated connection to the biggest networks, if you didn't want to engage in them fully. The trick would be finding "your people," but the tech works.
reddit and all commercial social media make more money when they have more users, so they attract a lot of users with ragebait and clickbait.
we don't profit if we have more users, so we don't have an incentive to send clickbait and ragebait, and the absence of these toxins alone will probably drive up the quality a bit.
I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn't know.
I see people daily due to living in a city and it only makes me hate them more.
But equally of course!
Right! Living in a city grows your disdain for all of humanity. But not any particular race.
It’s not just the city. I’ve moved to two small villages that are louder and more obnoxious than the city. It’s our culture and the devaluation of humanity.
Yeah, true, I'm not racist and I think being in multicultural environments since childhood was basically what did it, international boarding school, city with big international population, etc.
Human psychology is the same no matter the tech.
It just makes it easier.
And deadlier.
If they can't differentiate between Ai Slop and reality, maybe we should start generating videos of ICE terrorizing Maga people.
The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.
I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -- Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers
That last part is still accurate He had it right.
I remember as a kid growing up in a extended family just emerging from the worst kind of american poor. My fathers generation was the first to have decent living conditions but still faced hunger as children. They all could remember when they got electricity and running water. The older generation of aunts and uncles would often say things like 'We may be poor but at least were not N******s". That hasn't changed a lot in some circular family tree's.
I've met racists who love this quote, they just think that "convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man" is equivalent to "convince a colored man he’s as good as a white man" here. They really do.
Also there are plenty of people who don't consider themselves racist, yet think their (American, British, whatever) color hierarchy exists outside of English-speaking countries and people there have to take it into account.
The kind that "is not racist", but if someone is racist, it's only the way that they are on top. They can't conceive that a Vietnamese or a Chinese racist may have a racial hierarchy where they are near chimps. When facing evidence of such being possible, they lose their mind and behave, honestly, quite racist.
5th generation warfare. It's bots saying that (aka human slaves in large slave networks)
The troll farms are disastrous to this country.
Expect much more of this and soon enough it will be impossible to distinguish between Real and fake videos
We can fix a little with digitally.sigbed videos to at least show that a video came from a verified source but that still won't fix the issue with leaked videos. Basically, leaked videos and open mike videos / audio clips are over, we can't ever trust them anymore
I think the article really makes the point that it doesn't matter. The videos can LITERALLY have a watermark on them from the AI software, and people just dgaf. The battle is lost before it begins.
As with things like quotes and claims that could always be fake, it's back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source. But that means being ignorant of things that were not being investigated by journalists, which creates a different filter bubble.
it’s back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source.
that has as a necessary pre-requirement that people are actually interested enough in an objective truth that they're willing to pay some journalist to do the research.
is that really the case anymore? I can see it being useful in the 20th century when people were interested in new economic developments and stuff
Pity the journalists all got fired.
"dOnT tRusT the MSM" but they expect you to trust the guy on your insta feed / telegram / truth social?!
With the way things spread on social media from user generated content it would be hard to get that done I'm sure. Like the video almost everyone saw of Charlie, the video was indeed real but the spread was so beyond control that ot broke almost every filter algorithm on social media. I can't imagine how much "suppression" talk would be mentioned if we had digitally sign the source even though it would be totally valid. [Viral > Truth]
Even if the images were real, I see a woman using her first amendment right to speech and assembly being assaulted by someone who has sworn to uphold the constitution.
Trump supporters making shit up and constantly lying?
next you're gonna tell me the sky is blue
If right wing people were smart they wouldn't be right wing. Of course they're going to believe and share AI slop video. They're emotional driven fools.
This has to be what trump is seeing over on Truth Social that's got him thinking cities are burning from protests, or at least that could be what his advisors are showing
How many AI videos of them eating the dogs are there?
This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like
Not much different than grabbing the neighbors and telling them to say a few statements as witnesses, false or true. A new spin on an old game.
AI propaganda slop aside, fucking rise up already... FFS
can't, watching football, eating Jack Link's
Its not fake if MAGA believes it ... that puts it into psyops territory.
Not real, but not exactly "fake".
AI is coming along at the perfect times for these jackals, and as we got closer and closer, through deep fakes, etc., we all knew who would be the first side to abuse it for its political propaganda power. They even knew it, they could hardly wait for the tech to catch up to their nefarious requirements.
I'm convinced AI content generation was created with the sole intent of manufacturing outrage material for gullible idiots.
because the rate at which these technophobic illiterates have adopted AI, and expertly use it to generate bullshit, is too high to be otherwise plausible.
Yeah, no doubt. My mother got radicalised by Facebook over the years. It went from cute dog and cat things to "harmless" conspiracy theories (think bigfoot), culminating in fucking her with QAnon propaganda indoctrination. Last I checked up on her, there's machine generated rubbish all over her feed. She's beyond saving at this point. Suppose she was always primed for this kind of thing, being pro-homeopathy anti-vaccine person.
She doesn't question the machine generated content at all, and I saw that if someone points it out, which a scarce few have done, she just justifies it with "well it could be real, this kind of thing does happen."
At this point I don't think it matters if this technofascism was a knowing plan, or an unfortunate series of events that by themselves seemed justifiable to the people making the decisions, but it doesn't really matter. We're here now. They're not only trying, but succeeding in coercing governments and undermining democracy.
Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.
hold up. so now we don't even have to do anything for this this to escalate?
I mean....if I'm gonna get blamed for cheating I might as well cheat, you know?
We really are in a post-truth society.
I don't know. My entire life people have more or less told me the truth is stupid and worthless. Pretty sure were never were a truth society. It's just that now we have given up the pretense and pretext that it even exists and have decided bullshit is what really makes us happy.
It's all about normalising boots on the ground in American towns and cities.
Yet another reason they probably want to stir up violence. Not only does it tip us closer towards civil war, capturing public violence means more data to feed into AI and generate violent videos.
Fake videos and fake comments pushing us to the edge
Russian psyops
The American right are nasty enough to do this all by themselves.
The sooner you realize that the call is coming from inside the house, the better. We're dealing with a revived KKK and a government that openly supports them. These people are very capable of running their own psyops.
I fear it could be something even more dubious than that.
A marketing campaign for an American company with a foothold in the Whitehouse.
NOT true! MAGA are KNOWN to do Their Own Research TM and would Know if it's AI!
I feel like AI generated videos of very active things like protests would be easy to debunk. Just look at the people in the background and point out the people disappearing after moving behind another person, or look for changing faces.
You haven't seen a lot of Sora 2 videos. Identifiable traits require a pretty careful eye in many videos to spot.
You absolutely can't even rely on the watermark, since removing that watermark is trivial to the nation-states running disinfo campaigns, and even for end users removal is trivial compared to creating typical public AI video models.
Doesn't matter how easy it is to debunk. I assume you were around for COVID and Trump's first term?
In the article they mention videos with literal AI watermarks being passed around as if they were real. The targets want to believe they are true and will ignore anyone debunking them.
Reality is now a Who's Line Is It Anyway. Everything isn't real and points don't matter.
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