right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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I use Jellyfin with FinAmp for Android. Even supports offline caching.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I've been looking for.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've found Tempo to be one of the better alternatives you can find on f-droid

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I use it and like its UI but it doesn't properly support offline, you can just download single tracks. By proper offline support I mean something like Audinaut, which unfortunately doesn't work in new Android versions

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Just use AuroraStore to avoid google play account. You can even pay the Symfonium creator through a hacky workarround and get your full access without Google Play.

    That's an official way you can read it on Symfoniums forum somwhere !

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    I got an SMB sync app on my phone, stores any new music I've found into the network folder and syncs it up on my phone.

    Sorted. Wherever I get more tracks from, they're available on all my devices.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I currently host Navidrome, which has an okay web player. On Android I use "Tempo" (though it is unmaintained) to connect to it, and on Linux I use Tauon (though it has very poor playback). I could not find a native Linux client that is not buggy unfortunately, so I'm also on the lookout for better solutions! I'm not familiar with the device you are talking about but every client I tried supports MPRIS, which are the regular media controls that can be used via the playerctl command, so you should be able to hook things up that way.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have just set up Navidrome from the first time and I'm using Feishin as my Linux desktop client. I installed it via nix because it isn't in the Fedora repos as far as I could tell

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I did use Feishin for a while, it's an excellent music player but unfortunately not a native program. I might switch back to it from Tauon though, as actually playing the whole song before going to the next is a pretty nice upgrade hehe

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Have you had problems on android with tempo not continuing playback?

    I also run navidrome, and have tried tempo, substreamer, and another client I can't think of, and any of the clients that stream keep stopping playback after one song when the screen is locked.

    I've given the client all the permissions for running in the background and using battery that I can and no matter what I do, it'll just stop after one song.

    I'm on a pixel 7a with gOS.

    For now I've settled on Poweramp with tla selection of the music on my phone since I can't fit it all in storage. Its been really frustrating.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Hmm no, I haven't had this issue. Tempo works fine for me, it's been mostly bug-free except for a few oversights:

    • search doesn't work offline
    • can't play AAC files
    • can't skip songs via my Pebble watch

    I'm (still) on a Pixel 3a, running LineageOS, in case that matters.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Sometimes I get this error you mentioned but I'm usually driving and can't see what track triggers this behavior but I guess this has something to do with the song format or codec. I usually just hit next and play to keep listening to my songs ..

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Can't recommend symfonium enough it's really great even better then plexamp

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It looks really good indeed, and I don't mind at all to pay for apps (I pay for FairEmail)... however it is very strange for me to add a nonfree app to the list I use every day... everything else is open source.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Navidrome, Feishin, Tempo.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Plex Server + Plexamp.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Hosted with Jellyfin, for clients I use Symfonium on Android and Feishin on desktop.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    All my music is stored in a folder on my NAS, broken down by artist, release. It can be accessed via SMB, SFTP, Jellyfin and Plex. From there I stream to what ever device I'm using. Wireguard, Tailscale or Plex is required to stream outside my home. Navidrome sounds interesting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'll have to try DSub(2000), looks pretty nice. I've been using Ultrasonic. I do like that Ultrasonic allows you to browse cached files as if they were their own server, which DSub doesn't seem to do.

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    Only DSub or DSub 2000 as well? The former doesn't look like it's been updated in 3 years+

    Nevermind, I found it. You have to hit "go offline".

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    DSub2000 is on Fdroid as well. Subsonic doesn't change, but android does. DSub isn't built for recent Android's and as such FDroid won't automatically update it. And some stuff might get increasingly wonky/broken due to API and SDK changes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Gonic

    Wow, I thought I had a large music collection. I mean, I can put the whole 80k on random and it will be months before I hear a repeat. 200k you'd hear a song and then maybe on your 80th birthday hear it repeat. LOL The larger majority of my songs are from Indie groups I used to promo.

    I checked out Gonic.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm a very satisfied #jellyfin user. I have my music and movie files shared there. I use different clients: a rpi 5 with kodi and jellydin plugin; an old RPI B with volumio; in android, finamp and also share with dlna.@SidewaysHighways @selfhosted

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    +1 for Volumio! I didn't know it can use Jellyfin as a media source. To be fair, I just started using Jellyfin and didn't want to migrate everything to it until being sure it will stay. So far it's looking very good though.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Honestly just in ~/Music and stuff I'd like to listen to on the go gets copied onto my phone.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Navidrome for me. Installed via Yunohost.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I just keep all of my music in an NFS share on my NAS and play it with Rhythmbox or VLC. I keep a compressed copy on the SD card in my phone to listen to when I'm not home.

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    It's unpopular around here, but Plexamp is fantastic.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Completely agree. I paid for Symfonium after seeing a lot of people on here raving about it but I still ended up back with Plexamp. I'd be curious to hear what people find other apps do better than plexamp.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What did you dislike about synfonium? I'm considering switching since I don't have a plex subscription anyway so I did not get to enjoy the sonic analysis featured etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I can't say there was anything that I really disliked about it, I actually really liked the app overall but I've been using Plexamp since basically the first public release so that just feels a bit more familiar. Plus I heavily use the sonic analysis features which I don't believe exist outside of plexamp (please someone tell me if I'm wrong here).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I just use syncthing to copy music to my phone sd card.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ooo! what is the new syncthing hotness for Android? i enjoy it on the (linux) gaming PC's but I've been wanting that for savestates and memory cards on my phone too!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Music folder on a network share. Navidrome and plex and jellyfin all have access to that library, then pick your poison for the client app. Plex is also DLNA enabled so my dumber AVR can access it too. I mostly use tempo app on android though. I'm a pinch, I can use navidromes web UI player to listen. The plex and jellyfin are mainly just a backup and overkill cause I can't make up my mind.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    VM having a EXT4 disk on a ZFS storage.
    Files are (usually) FLAC
    Files are ripped from CD with Exact Audio Copy (EAC)
    Alternatively they are bought or 'lent' out ;)
    Files are managed by Lidarr.
    Jellyfin for streaming.
    On mobile I use Symfonium (alternative: FinAmp or Gelli).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Basically my setup but without ZFS (kept randomly crashing entirely, probably not a great nvme) or ripped CDs, haven't had a disk drive in over a decade lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The ZFS is in my case just TrueNAS. Can't trust myself setting that up :D

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    I tried to set mine up through Proxmox, after 3-10 days the whole ZFS pool would crash and I'd have to reboot the machine to get it functional again. I'm sure I either did something wrong with config or the 4 year old consumer nvme I had it set up on just couldn't handle it lol

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just torrent the sht out of it. And put it on a USB stick. And plug it into my car. That's it.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Plex and Plexamp. I know the dislike for Plex here, but it works for me and Plexamp is a fantastic piece of kit which, in opinion is worth the lifetime sub alone.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Plexamp is mind blowingly good. Great UX. Perfect reliability. No discovery/ads up in your face. Just you listening to your music how you like it. Streaming is ROCK SOLID. Downloads work flawlessly. It just relies on proper metadata in Plex.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    after using jellyfin and emby for a long while ive gone back to basics, just local mp3s synced between devices using syncthing

    something like KDE Connect might work for remote control as long as you are able to install it on both devices

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Navidrome + MusicAssistant

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Hosted on Jellyfin, Feishin on laptop and Finamp on mobile.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was going to try to host my music on Jellyfin, but I had an issue.

    Since 2005 I’ve been curating my music collection with my old iPod that I still use.

    I like my albums in release order so, with the iPod in mind, probably 80% of them are named [year] - [album]

    Lidarr and Jellyfin won’t find them because of this and I don’t want to manually sort through 2000-some albums.

    So I still use my iPod (20 years old next year!)

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Why do I see no mentions of Ampache here? From what I found, it was the only program except Navidrome to support nested smart playlist, and Ampache has the editor directly in the web interface.

    Anyways, I host mine too! Over 2TB of music files on my server, and it runs pretty well.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    2TB? How!

    Currently sat on 5GB across 920 files

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm close to a TB myself. For me, I'm a bit of a "completionist" and can't stand having just 2 or 3 tracks from an entire album. Every track I have is accompanied by the rest of the album it was released on.

    Sure, it means there are some duplicates at times, but it's worth it to me.

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    Same. There are some tracks and albums I don't like, but I won't delete them. Another reason to use smart playlist, I can just put them into "Not My Style" playlist and it's magically gone from my main list.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wow. Maybe create some torrents out of your collection? 😉

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    They're available in Soulseek! Both Soulseek and Ampache share the same directory. I was thinking of creating a torrent, but I am still in the process of deduplicating them, so I decided against it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My problem is that I cannot find a selfhosting solution that has the nuts to spool up 80k+ hi-res, original sourced, flac files that reside on two 10TB drives through my ancient technology. MusicBee is the closest thing I've come across, but that is local, and it struggles. I stay around the compound now days so local is ok, but it would be nice to stream out on the back porch without cranking my stereo to 11 so I can hear. I have bluetooth options but range is an issue.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    if you can, don't be afraid to pull some wires! i come from a low-voltage background, and am getting ready to run some cabling for distributed audio.

    found some old control4 gear that can be controlled directly from Home Assistant, no control4 processor required!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Hello fellow hass/mass user. Also, what sort of low voltage?

    Fire/security alarms? Or access control? (Or both)?

    I do both, as well as CCTV.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    oh lawd i am glad to meet another out in the wild!

    i was fortunate to start with residential alarm and A/V. due to a talent vacuum, leapfrogged to control system programmer/service, which allowed a few forks in the road (service manager, project manager and sales,) before bringing me back to my primary passion in this industry, AV programming and design.

    but yeah I've installed my fair share of alarm panels, access control, thousands of camera systems.

    but most of my shit has been fixing old rich people's wifi and kids/grandkids AV

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted I use navidrome which is incredibly solid and boring in a good way. Playsub or Amperfy as iOS client, web or supersonic for desktop.If you want to stick to jellyfin, Manet is probably the best client for music

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Another vote for Navidrome here, i use the Tempo android client for it and i use the feishin web front end for desktop because it's better than the default navidrome web front end.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Nextcloud.

    And a subsonic app. There is also another protocol available so you have quite the choice for which you prefer. Currently using Tempo.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Mpd + a frontend of your choosing, I prefer ncmpcpp, will run on just about anything and is remotely controlled through apps or ssh. Mpd is great when the server is physically connected to the audio output device. I use it to remotely control a speaker connected server that can also run Plex (because I prefer plexamp for streaming and syncing to my phone, other android devices, and smart speakers). They both look at the same directory of a collection near 30 years in the making with hundreds of thousands of files and a wide array of formats.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I use Jellyfin with Finamp on Android/PC and the Jellyfin plugin for Kodi on my HTPC.

    The Jellyfin plugin does movies/shows too and not just music but it handles music playback as well. For a dedicated music box I'm not sure if I would use Kodi for it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I use navidrome for the streaming and lidarr for downloads. I am not totally thrilled with navidrome as I can not play genres. I want to setup an icecast streaming server with individual "channels" for each genre

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