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[–] 55 points 1 year ago

As soon as a metric becomes a goal, it stops being a useful metric. This is management 101

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why tf is "stole" censored?? We can't even discuss crime now?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Close them anyways and gaslight them when they complain. Tell them to open another ticket and repeat. This is called the Sisyphus method.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    One of our desktop techs was found to be opening/closing tickets for the work of processing tickets. It was strongly suggested that she not do that.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    He is an agent of capitalistic chaos.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I remember a director asking me to speed up getting a large order out before the end of the week even though I had already put in the best guess as a week later.
    I reminded him I work by the hour and not on commission and he was like "ooh yeah that makes sense, alright carry on"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Had this once, had a prize for most tickets closed. Every morning I'd be first to grab all the easy garbage tickets. I won.

    Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago
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    the receptionist filed another ticket: "My keyboard is missing."

    Impressive. Voice dictation, on-screen keyboard, or they had a help desk that is actually slightly workable on mobile? (The third is imaginary.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Gamification of the system. I love it

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    [–] 180 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Thank god for censoring "stole". I don't know what I would have done had I been able to read that word.

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  • [–] 105 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Better close your fuckin eyes then 'cause I don't play this game

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously stealing. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men stealing together because of this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Oh man, my workplace switched to an external IT support company, InfoSys, which pulls basically the same scam.

    When you open a ticket, they immediately write something underneath – typically a question that's already answered in the ticket – because it shows up in their statistics as low response times.

    Then they'll do shit like split up your ticket into three new tickets for no good reason.

    And if you happen to be on holiday for a few days and therefore don't respond, they'll close your tickets due to inactivity.

    Then you have to open a new ticket and link to the old ticket, if you can still access it, and then re-answer the same braindead questions again.

    Basically, if it's something you can solve yourself, you should, because it will take more time to communicate back and forth with InfoSys.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    When you open a ticket, they immediately write something underneath – typically a question that's already answered in the ticket – because it shows up in their statistics as low response times.

    Fuck! So THAT'S why! I had wondered why the fuck companies would quickly restate my problem "just to confirm" and then take several days to respond after that 🤦🤬

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I work in IT and in similar systems, the reason from my perspective to do this is when a ticket comes in a timer will start ticking. Whenever the ball isn't in our court that timer is cancelled. If i set status "pending user" and throw a dumb question it is paused. If more than 10% or whatever amount was agreed on when the contract was signed our company has to pay for not living up to expectations.

    There's a lot of rule bending to make this work in our favour.

    Of course different providers will use different metrics like how long before the ticket was handled etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Online retailers, too. Item goes from ordered to processing to shipping in a half hour. Takes a week or more to go from shipping to shipped.
    Item can’t be cancelled without a restock fee if it’s in shipping — which is fine (I guess) if the item takes the provided time estimate to arrive.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    InfoSys

    Thanks for the name. Though in this case it's more the pattern you should watch out for.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I think, it's important to name and shame, because they actively avoid providing the service that they advertise, but I do also expect this to be a common pattern in the industry. If you actually solved problems and did so permanently, you'd be out of business very quickly. External support providers have an inherent interest for things to work as badly as possible, so long as it does not get their contract cancelled.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you actually solved problems and did so permanently, you’d be out of business very quickly.

    Naw, PEBKAC and ID10T issues provide an unlimited supply of tickets. Support is a gravy train even when done effectively.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Require condition of solved for payment, in the contract?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Then you get other side-effects, like them ignoring or infinitely delaying tickets that are harder to solve. It's a somewhat universal rule of capitalism: As soon as there is a metric for success, the goal is to game that metric as much as possible, because that maximizes the supposed success while minimizing costs.

    You can try to define multiple metrics to make this more difficult. And you can set a higher target value than necessary, so that even with the gaming, it's still within an acceptable margin.
    But IMHO it's still better to just treat it as a cost of doing business than to invest lots of money to try to make it measurable in an attempt to reduce the money spent.

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  • [–] 109 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."

    - Goodhart's law

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is 100% correct in the IT world. I have a split IT dept due to mergers (its a whole thing, people are fighting to not give up knowlage on systems so their position looks useful to mgmt... its fucked) and the other side of the fence are the most useless window-lickers ever because their tier 1 just closes things almost at random to bump their numbers up.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Any system that can be gamed, will be gamed.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    We're truly fucked as a society if the word "stole" offends/triggers/shocks anyone.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It offends advertisers. To be honest I would be really interested in seeing if anyone has actually studied if any of this shit even does anything. Like it seems like complete nonsense that seeing a coca cola ad next to a post about theft would make someone less likely to buy coke in the future but we are currently ruining society based on this premise.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I do get tired of every piece of every thing we produce in any fashion being something to monetize somehow for ad revenue.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know if anyone has studied it, but I know why it exists

    It's to sell higher quality ad slots. When a company goes to buy ads through AdSense, they get a ton of customization options. This one would be something like "avoid mentions of criminality". And a lot of companies just check that, because why not?

    Companies do actually care about appearing next to NSFW stuff, because it "taints their image"

    How much does it actually affect sales? Who knows, marketing has kind of lost the plot, and Google has been caught rampantly lying about conversion metrics and the ad slots themselves in all kinds of ways, so I don't think the data to answer that question actually exists

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know why it happens, I just refuse to believe that these ad spaces are actually higher quality by any meaningful metric, especially considering how much they are ruining society.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    IT,

    Thank you for replying to my ticket. Unfortunately, the key word in your recommendation appears to be censored. Could you take a look at the safety filter and try again?

    • Peter
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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Close your eyes OP, I'm about to say a naughty word.

    Stole.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The real question is: how did the receptionist file the ticket?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    On screen keyboard would be my bet. Another few possibilities I can think of would be on their phone, or even in person.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Another pc in the building? Asking a colleague? There's 100s of options really..

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Hey ! Isn't that my keyboard ?!"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Power corrupts, IT management corrupts absolutely.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    At first I was reading bone structure and was wondering how that would work

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does anybody else’s company do this with laptops? You tell them something doesn’t work so they take it and just give you someone else’s that had an issue they didn’t fix?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Um no... I work for a normal organization that has a financing deal for laptops and they don't give a shit how many we go through as long as it's not the contracts upper limit. Honestly I wonder where all these laptops go at the end of their 3 year term...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The Cobra Effect

    An anecdote tells of the British government's bounty on dead Indian cobras giving locals the perverse incentive to start breeding the snakes, to be able to kill more of them

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago
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    You don't need to unplug a printer for someone to need help with it:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIAWko4QxU

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    I kind of hate this idea of a "Chad" and how we're supposed to be this muscle bound meathead in this image

    Also fuck Twitter and fuck censoring words.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Smartest IT guy.

    Not IT Professional. IT Guy.

    Big difference. My dumb ass could be an IT guy. I can fix printers and replace peripherals. I can't troubleshoot a database. I am not an IT Professional.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Does the company also happen to have a cobra problem?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I just lost my job if anyone from work reads this wtf nsfw

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The question is, how did she fill out the ticket without a keyboard 🤔

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    There was a wine company once that hired a new CEO and tied their bonus to how many more litres of wine he could move.

    He cut the selling price in half (below cost) and walked away with a big bonus.

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