The Penn and Teller episode was amazing. I can't think of a better use of comedy in science fiction. There may be funnier shows, but this one actually dealt with humor as a part of people's culture.

DS9 was Babylon Five Lite.

Yes. And do so knowing that the whole thing was supposed to be a five season arc, then they got told "no you get four" so hastily wrapped up the war only to be told "have another season!"

So they pulled an entire season out of their arse on the fly and in this year it is very. Very relevant

That arc is great. The followup is the earth civil war arc which is pretty great. You won't enjoy the last season, even though I find a lot of it good.

Yeah it uhhhh has some rough visuals lol. Works well though, and the uniforms are mostly incredible

For me it's when Veronica gives deposition in as little words and meaning as possible while technically not refusing to answer. It was perfect.

thematically it holds up fine. productuon wise it's about what you'd expect from 90s scifi. it even has early cg aliens, with a tv budget. lots of big rubber suits or people with skin paint and wigs.

I left his in another comment before seeing yours but yeah, last time I watched it was quite some time ago and I still really enjoy it. One of the few times the 'rose colored glasses' didn't apply.

Lucky, you get to see it for the first time.

Shiny!

One of today's lucky 10,000

I also have good memories of Heroes in the beginning, real shame how it ended up

idk, that had already changed the basic nature of how gods work from the book.

they also tended to go for cheap shots where the author really thought a lot about how to use certain gods.

for example:

in the epilogue of the anniversary edition of the book gaimam talks about wanting to incorporate Jesus, but deciding that the scene he wrote for him wasn't good enough to capture what Jesus was to Americans. but he includes the scene in the post script anyway. it's a quiet scene where Jesus comes and offers guidance in one of shadows most desperate hours.

in the show Jesus gets shot trying to cross the Mexican border. which is the absolute lowest hanging fruit when it comes to Jesus. i have made that joke before. I've heard others make that joke before. "if Jesus actually was alive right now he'd get shot at the border for being brown and communist". they clearly just wanted shock value at the lowest intellectual price.

i don't hate shows or movies just for adapting a story to a new medium. for example, the new dune movies really aren't actually capturing the point of the books very well so far. that's because the dune books are mostly people thinking about what people think it doesn't adapt into visual mediums well. what villenuve has made is a great movie series regardless. the shining is another great example of that. i had a Stephen King fan try to tell me that Stanley kubrik was a hack for not following the book better. I'd argue that Stanley Kubrik is a better filmmaker that king is an author. the shining is an all time great movie regardless of what it was based on or how much it changed that material. that said, i do hate adaptation that add story elements and change basic rules of reality without putting thought or effort in to making it worthwhile. these two examples are great because kubrik and villenuve are masters of their craft that made these movies with immense amounts of care and effort.

deviating from the source material isn't inherently a sin, but making a much worse story when you started with a good one that was already written and loved and using its name to draw people in is worse than just making a bad show. a bad show is easily ignored, but a bad adaptation will put people off of the source material you love. or worse, will supplant the source material in the cultural zeitgeist and you'll forever have to specify "i mean the book, not that terrible movie they did". i think tv American gods was... just ok. it completely failed to capture what i liked about the book, but others seem to like it well enough. it has gotten multiple people i know into the book, so i can't hate it entirely.

similar to the Witcher show. i hated it. it had nothing of the books in it. it was schlocky and the plot BARELY made sense. they just went off and did entirely their own thing after season 1 and it was shit. but everyone who hasn't read the books seems to still like it so maybe I'm just a hater.

Ouch, that hurts. Didn't know it was cancelled.

Yeah the ship stuff. Was nice! I could imagine what they’re gonna do in the next two seasons!

That’s the writer or director?

Damn fine show

Twin Peaks

The whole first season is kinda a low rent monster of the week show. Then there's a few seasons that cohere around sci-fi trope A that are worth the watch, then the last season or two revolve around sci-fi trope B and I basically kept watching just to finish it.

"Define interesting." "Oh god oh god, we're all gonna die?"

Haha I hate you

With God as my witness….

Seriously, what's wrong with watching it with original audio and subtitles?

Be seeing you.

The original or the remake?