Maybe it’s the retro-futuristic style or reminiscent of sci-fi and cyperpunk, but I genuinely really like the design.

I would never buy one due to the MYRIAD issues plaguing the stainless steel body, interior build quality, or give Tesla money. But still a cool looking car, if nonfunctional truck.

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[–] 164 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Upvote because that truly is an unpopular opinion from what I’ve seen and I think they make the Pontiac Aztec look classy.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    They make PT Cruisers look like a sick ride.

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    There’s no offense intended just stating facts.

    Some people like pt cruisers, some like crocs and others like to put gold details on every surface and having bad taste is okay!

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, you’re using the community for its intended purpose.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Meanwhile, in actual Cyberpunk media. I disagree with you so hard that I deeply regret I only have one upvote to give. Well done.

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    What I really want is this Cadillac electric concept vehicle that is like the car of a rich Shadowrun villain who has a sexy, mute personal assistant who is also a cyborg ninja assassin.A futuristic looking rust orange electric Cadillac

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This isn't a concept vehicle, it's the Cadillac Celestiq. Got to test drive one once; feels great, handles great. Emphasis on "rich" Shadowrun villain though. Lucky for you, if you have a spare 350K lying around, it can be yours today! Promo article of a Cadillac Celestiq, GM's luxury station wagon EV

    (obligatory fuck GM, they as a company are personally responsible for this car-dependent hellscape we live in, for the destruction of many communities, and of course they are happy to provide luxury vehicles for the wealthy to navigate it as painlessly as possible. This is not an ad and my knowledge of this vehicle was acquired involuntarily. The least I could get out of it was a turn at the wheel.)

    Also, consider this an official petition to bring back (affordable) station wagons (yes, that is what this is) in the EV age instead of bending over backwards to get any sort of useful range out of trucks (including the ones masquerading as SUVs.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't think it's fair to compare it with a sports car, though. That's a different genre.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We're talking about Cyberpunk aesthetics. Christ, the only thing in lore that looks even remotely like the Cybertruck is the Makigai MaiMai.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's more an 80s aesthetic than cyberpunk aesthetic. It's basically a big dumbed down version of a Delorean.

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  • I'd say that it's 80s concept car aesthetic specifically, which is what a lot of people found attractive about it when it was announced. Then we saw more and more of it, and it started to look less like a concept car and more like a rolling dumpster with the same levels of tetanus risk as the real deal.

    I think the cars in 2077 also have an 80s aesthetic, but it's 80s retro-futurism dystopia (cyberpunk was founded in the 70s and 80s, so it makes perfect sense) which runs the full gambit from supercar to super cheap, and I'd take any of those over the Cybertruck any day.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Have you seen one in person? They look... Not great in pictures, but like... Passable as a curiosity. In person? Monstrous and ugly as fuck. Also the bare steel is just a horrible choice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I have seen a couple and if I knew nothing else about them, their quality, or the insane politics involved, I would feel: “Oh what, that’s a crazy design! Neat. Way too big, though. Kinda looks rusty, but maybe that’s a wrap all over it. That windshield wiper looks hella expensive to replace.”

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Nah.

    It is too simplistic.

    Too low poly.

    Unrefined.

    Too anti-functional.

    Almost like some ketamine addict drew it on a napkin and then stuttered 'M - Mm - Make it like, lo- look like this' to some unpaid intern.

    It is, imo, an idiot's take on retro future as a style guide.

    ........

    in contrast, we have....

    DeLorean.

    This Hyundai N Vision 74 concept car.

    The modular Slate E Truck.

    Those are retro future, look better (imo), and also ... the DeLorean both actually exists, and also actually works, and the Slate truck seems to have at least a decent shot at actually existing.

    EDIT: Whoops, I was out of date with my info, looks like the Hyundai N 74 also will actually be produced.

    Notice how these look like they could actually maybe be in the background of a shot from the OG Blade Runner, or Akira, or OG Ghost in the Shell... or would not look very out of place in Cyberpunk 2077?

    ......

    All that being said, I do want to join the chorus of people saying this is a great topic for unpopular opinion, lol.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nice, an unpopular opinion. Good on you.

    It looks like the truck that a person who’s never used a truck would build.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    From some angles it looks cool, but from others it's not very well designed. When it was first unveiled I liked the boldness, but in the end even the design comes apart rather quickly.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Exactly. The aesthetic itself isn't the problem (although not at all what I would want my vehicle to look like), it's just really badly executed. Some features like the headlight bar looks cool from certain angles, but all the proportions just feel wrong, the silhouette is awful and it just looks so enormous and stupid in person.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Fully agree. When I see them in person, I have to resist the urge to point and laugh at the sucker. In photos, where they control the angle, I can see thinking it looks kind of cool. From the rear, those shits look hilariously dumb.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just curious if you've seen one in person or just online.

    Cuz I didn't like how they looked online. But seeing them in person was just a whole another thing. I've seen a few, My personal opinion is the proportions are just off in every way. It's bigger than you'd think but also it looks like the cab is a lot smaller. It reminds me of toy vehicles you give like 5-year-olds. If it was just an RC car, I probably be fine with it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I bet you like the St. Anger snare too, you absolute madman. Points for being unpopular.

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    Have you ever looked at one from behind? Goofiest, ugliest shit ever from the rear.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    When the Cybertruck was revealed in 2019 the announced price was starting at $39,900.

    The specifications were great.

    Cyberpunk was about to be released.

    Teslas were still pretty cool.

    The Cybertruck looked like a giant Delorean electric truck.

    Elon Musk had said some questionable things, but was still "Elon Musk" from Iron Man 2 and Star Trek: Discovery.

    If the Cybertruck had actually been offered for sale in 2019 for $39,900, I would have bought one. Without hesitation.

    In 2025 I wouldn't be caught dead in one because I don't want anything to do with the politics of Tesla and Elon Musk.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I will second this very unpopular opinion. I don’t quite like the Tesla truck but I like that fresh direction. I think with some minor tweaks it could look a lot cooler and still keep the polygon sci-fi vibe. If it wasn’t being killed I bet future versions of it could have been really neat.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (18 children)

    Then go buy an 80s car with an actual good angular design and convert it to electric.

    Some similar aesthetic options:

    • VW Scirocco or early Golf/Rabbit
    • Early Lotus Esprit
    • Delorean
    • Fiat X1
    • Triumph TR7
    • 80s Alfa Romeos
    • 80s Lancias (Beta, or Delta for instance)
    • anything from the late 60s to late 80s designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro

    They are angular wedge designs, but done with care and thought to manufacturing, some safety (at least from sharp edges), and almost all of them are aesthetically pleasing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Then go buy an 80s car with an actual good angular design and convert it to electric.

    You say that like it's easy to do for anyone. 😅

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    As much as any one can buy a Cybertruck for $80k, yeah.

    You can get an 80s car with a dead motor for less than 1/10th a cybertruck

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well yeah but the "convert to electric" part... 😅

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The remaining 75,000 should get you a pretty nice conversion. Fitting the batteries without completely ruining the handling and storage in the conversion does present a big challenge.

    But there are an increasing number of shops on both sides of the Atlantic that are offering conversions.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Have you looked at the labor involved, and price? Conversions are not really feasible for everyday cars and likely never will be

    Edit: $40-50k plus the original cost of the car. Are you really ready to dump that into a 1980s Subaru? Why not buy a brand new Subaru EV and save a crap load of money?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I hear you, but Subaru/Toyota EVs aren’t really that great (especially in the styling department). But we’re taking about the 80-100K budget of a cybertruck, and choosing it based on aesthetics. This is what I’d do. As mentioned elsewhere, the Ionic 5 is a good alternative as well.

    Also I’ve restored 3 and a bit 60s-80s cars now, and want to do an EV or Hybrid conversion for my next project. Since I already own a base vehicle, my DIY budget is about 20k depending on how much life is left in whatever donor car’s batteries I find. But I’m not normal, I can do all the fabrication and wiring needed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    75,000 US dollars is already way more than what my brand new 2025 Volvo EX40 Single Motor Extended Range cost, including a bunch of extra features and winter tires. That's an all-electric vehicle with a lot of range.

    It doesn't have the aesthetic, but you gotta be freaking fanatic about 80s car design of you're willing to shell out a hundred thou on a car that you have to build yourself, or worse, have someone assemble for you (even more money).

    So no, this isn't a "just do it" kind of situation 😂

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If I could get a 1987 Nissan Pulsar NX SE converted to electric with a range similar to the Model 3 LR, I'd be so happy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The difference in "ability to avoid serious injury or death in a crash" between an 80s and modern car is the hangup for me. Particularly in a country where I have to share the road with comically huge pickups and SUVs.

    As a cool weekend "drive around a bit" car: sure. But not as a daily driver.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I hear you, it’s a hang up with me as well. Driving one is a lot like riding a bike or motorcycle, it makes me hyper focused and cautious, especially during merges and stop and go traffic.

    Having a decent EV setup would at least make it capable of accelerating and keeping up with modern traffic. Which, speaking from experience, would help, but not eliminate the treat by any means.

    I stopped bike commuting after moving to a more rural area where lack of bike lanes, brodozers, frauhauspanzers, and cellphone distractions have made it too risky.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Some of the original renders I saw were so much better…

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a saying in Brazil, "Everyone has their taste and asshole" (Gosto e cu, cada um tem o seu), because some people have a shit taste

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I guess the Cyber Truck could be cool if it fit in with any of its potential surroundings. Everywhere it goes it just stands out like a sore thumb. There is no city or landscape that matches the aesthetic. It's like seeing a suped up F350 in the middle of NYC. Even if you like those giant trucks it will always look out of place in a big city. Or like seeing a Lamborghini way out on a dirt road in the boonies. It just wouldn't look right. I don't think there are currently any places that exist that match the aesthetic of a cyber truck. It makes me feel like when a high graphical game doesn't render an object correctly and it comes in low poly.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    raccoons' reaction seeing a cybertruck:

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    At one point I really wanted to get a Delorean -- the angles, the materials, the doors, all very cool; plus BttF is a nice trilogy that reminds me of being a child. The cybertruck hits a lot of the same notes, so I can understand.

    But, honestly, even my current car has too much central monitoring, data collection, and even control than I wanted. I really only bought it because my (the current) previous car was quickly dying.

    I knew from Teslas claims and their other cars that there was just too much of that fiddly bullshit involved. So even without considering Elmu, a cybertruck was a clear No.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why not buy a nice pre-2015 car with none of that data collecting crap installed? You have a lot of good options. Swap out the stereo with a modern one for Android Auto/Apple Carplay and you're good to go.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I also wanted an plug in electric (or hybrid-electric) vehicle, and this was 2019 when I bought my Volt.

    I honestly don't know what I'd buy today. I really think the Volt was/is a great car for me, because I could almost do my daily commute on one charge and could easily charge to full overnight, but it was also nice to be able to road-trip 6 hours to OKC or St. Louis in my car instead of a rental. My situation has changed quite a bit from then to now, and I think something purely electric might work, but this part of the country is really quite lacking when it comes to charging stations -- but I also do longer trips much less frequently and maybe I could just rent a car for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think there are now several EVs with a range of 6 hours or close. More importantly high speed chargers are becoming more common: that’s the important factor to look for

    I did a 1,200 mile road trip with absolutely no range issues because there were plenty of high speed chargers on my route plus trip planning software that optimized for them. Stops were 10-20 minutes and corresponded well with grabbing a bite and using the facilities

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Absolutely. But last I checked Arkansas and Oklahoma are near the bottom as far as high speed chargers availability; I live near the border now.

    I'm hoping that the Volt lasts at least another decade, and the EV situation may have changed quite a bit by then. I might even find myself in a situation where I could not own a car and still do everything I want to.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It looks like garbage. In like every way. And I'm a car guy. It's not political. It's a big old pile of "not worth 120". I can buy two Toyotas with more satisfaction in style and performance.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I don't like the truck as a whole but the shape is peak Nintendo 64 and I love it. I wish it was a better vehicle so I could own one.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It would make a cool Hot Wheels diecast if the proportions were closer to a normal vehicle.

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