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[–] 241 points 1 year ago (48 children)

But you have a Daddy and Mommy who love you!

And, a Windows Home Server! Does that make you happy?

They had me until windows

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Imagine growing up with a Windows home server... ugh

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I'm usually a Windows "shill" or at least a casual defender of it, as I work in a Windows environment and it's not as bad as people pretend it is. No shade against Linux, I love it and Windows is bad. Just not like "I'd rather self-castrate" bad.

    Anyway...

    But for a home server? Either be super lazy and set up samba shares from your Windows desktop for the drives (avoid having a server at all) or bite the bullet and use Linux. You'll get so much more out of a Linux server that it's not even funny.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I work with Windows and it's AWFUL. Did you know the taskbar is a fucking ELECTRON APP? Everything is so slow. And you have to go through hoops to do what you want, and that setting isn't available in the settings electron app, you have to go through these 5 screens to find the magic button that opens the win 95 style dialog box to set what you want. It's so So SO BAD.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm using it 95% of my time with it by remoting with a program to the server and experience reduced window quality and speed anyway.
    I want it finishing the task and not look pretty.

    And ew. 95 theme. How old are you? At least use Aero/flat and then log off to reduce the 0.5% load from the active user session

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think they are trying to exaggerate how very outdated some Windows UI elements look (primarily dialog boxes?). I doubt they would use a 95 theme on an OS that's hard to theme and annoying to use.

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Have fun with that then. Sorry about your balls.

    If you're competent and technologically saavy enough to use a Linux distro as your daily driver, you can learn to make Windows work for you too.

    Waste of effort if you don't need to interact with any Windows environments for school or work, but definitely possible.

    For me? I'm happy to get paid to automate shit using PowerShell that should have been basic built in functionality from the start. PowerShell is just the most convenient scripting language due to being packed-in with most Windows installs, and tons of built in functionality for interfacing with other Microsoft products. So as long as Microsoft keeps sucking, I've got a comfy paycheck.

    And if the year of the Linux desktop ever finally happens? I'm ready, I'll be cheering, and I'll be ready to get paid helping companies to make the switch.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    After learning too much about Linux it's impossible for me to use Windows.

    It hurts me at every step, making me question my life and everyones sanity who handles that stuff.

    It's very very bad and nobody will pry Gentoo from my hands.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It’s very rough coming back after 20+ years. Easy things on Linux quickly become a wasted day going down six trillion rabbit holes on Windows before you can even accomplish your seemingly simple task. Most problems in Windows are much more easily resolved by booting into Linux to make the repairs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The few times I tried bash it was awful.
    At least Powershell let's me manipulate data more freely and organized.

    But Linux has way cooler packages (Window Server 2025 finally implemented winget ootb).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have not used PowerShell that much, because I'm so used to bash that it felt foreign.

    There are other shells you can try, more modern, perhaps they will be more to your liking.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Understandbly theres no real need to use powershell outside of the windows realm.

    As far as my limited experience understood it: Everything powershell gives you is in a properly formatted data type (e.g. bool, text, int, etc.) and thus can be more easily manipulated than in bash where everything is treated as text.

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  • Yeah, Windows isn't that bad, but it's not that good either. On servers, everything requires a million clicks or some random terminal command that's impossible to find documentation for (was just passed down from senior to junior over the ages). I had to configure one for testing (embedded product that needed to work in Windows environments as well as Linux), and it took hours to do the most basic task. Granted, none of us were sysadmins, just devs, but we weren't familiar with Linux or Windows servers, just desktops, and Linux was by far easier to configure.

    Don't pick Windows for your server without a good reason, you'll get much more value from learning Linux than Windows.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I must admit, my home rack server runs hyper-v, it is free and I have MSDN. Of course inside the hyper-v I run ten linux boxes.

    Proxmox really didn't exists before and I didn't want to use VMware.

    Next one I will do with proxmox.

    Please dont judge me.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    True, but this book is the best thing Microsoft has made.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Wow, seriously who tf uses Windows home server?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I use it in a VM because it's better than Windows 10, some programs refuse to run on Linux, and I don't need to provide the VM with an internet connection.

    My actual server is an old laptop and it does not run Windows.

    Even my friend who insists that Windows is superior still uses Linux for his gaming server because it's easier to set up and manage.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's actually fine. Though why not regular Windows 7, is there special task for your VM?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In 2008? More than you'd think.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sometimes I forget it's been that long ago. -_-

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I feel like it would be easier to learn Linux, even if you still used windows for desktop

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's probably true if you consider Linux server vs Windows server. Windows server sucks.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Windows Server is less of a general use server, and more of just a staging platform for Microsoft's other specific server based software installs. And even a lot of those don't co-mingle on the same server well.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, even Microsoft doesn't give a shit about Windows server since Azure runs on Linux. :)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Exchange Server is effectively dead mid October too. Technically they have Exchange Server SE as an option, but it's clearly not how they want people using Exchange anymore. They don't even want hybrid setups.

    Which is extra annoying because if you have Azure AD (I guess it's Entra ID now) syncing from an on prem AD forest, half of the mailbox management shit in Exchange Online just doesn't work and forces you to make the changes on-prem anyway.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is cute except for the windows name drop. Is this book a Microsoft ad?

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why does daddy spend more time with the server than with mommy?

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    they had me until

    windows home server

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's clearly the old Microsoft. Current Microsoft would be "Microsoft windows azure home server 365 copilot+Server cloud" (yes it says server twice)

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your server isn't working today.

    This is because Microsoft wants you to finish setting up your PC that has been running for ten years.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    WHS wasn't working then either.

    It was an awful piece of software, you were better off just pirating Windows Server 2003r2 Standard and using the software raid5 over the WHS flaky overlay system.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I wonder if there's some technical benefit to it. Being familiar with Windows is one benefit ofc but not a technical one.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Man with a hammer rule definitely applies to SAs. If your skills are in Micro$oft then every problem is best solved with MS, even when it isn't.

    I tried to come up with a gender-neutral way of saying 'man with a hammer' and failed. Please make some suggestions for me.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    At first I didn't noticed the 2nd image, and started wondering what kind of children book this is :P

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A children's book sponsored by Microsoft... No

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I redid this book once, changing words and some pictures to make it for Linux server. I wanted a book that made sense.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Swap windows home server for server on the last page and you're done.

    Until your kid is 7/8, then you need to explain why one server isn't enough and you need a second server somewhere else for the same reasons it shows a server being important when the computer gets pee on it.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I am of the mind that servers belong in restaurants.

    Like... Why do I need someone to take my order and bring me a meal at an office?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Of all the American vernacular for job titles, "server" is probably the one that makes my poor Aussie brain glitch most frequently. While you're wondering why people are bringing you a meal in the office, I'm looking at the same sentence and wondering why diners are being forced to work as sysadmins over dinner.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    What's wrong with "server"? They serve you food, much like a computer server serves files.

    I think it's much better than "waiter" (which we also use) because I want them to bring food, not wait.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It makes me think of a machine, not a person. I prefer to just use "staff"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, I tend to use "staff" or sometimes "waitstaff" to describe them, particularly in cafes, where the owner and/or manager might also be waiting tables. "Waiter" or "waitress" I'd mostly use when recounting something that happened while eating out, and I'm trying to specify who's who in the story.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hmmm, well, the "wait" in waiter/waitress/waitstaff refers to the act of serving someone, usually in a restaurant or cafe. (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wait-on?topic=providing-and-serving-meals.) Like a lot of words in English, "wait" has more than one meaning.

    There's nothing wrong with "server", per se, other than that we already had an established set of words for that role, and a server was also an existing word for a piece of IT equipment prior to US vernacular shifting (somewhere between the 90s and the 2010s, I think - we've always had a lot of US media pumped into Australia, but the vocab used to align on this one when I was a kid, and then at some point it changed).

    Not saying Americans should do things the way we do it (vive la difference), just that the linguistic shift still throws me off. It would probably confuse me less if you'd always called them servers.

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  • We also use waiter/waitress, maître d', and sometimes steward/stewardess (esp. on airplanes). There's technically a difference:

    • waiter/waitress - brings food
    • server - person the customer interacts with (i.e. takes orders)
    • maître d' (hotel) - head of wait staff
    • steward/stewardess - serving customers is usually a secondary duty

    I think "server" has become more popular because it's gender neutral, but "waiter/waitress" is still quite common and most don't make the distinction between the two.

    I personally like the overlap between computer server and restaurant server because both exist to provide things upon request. The term "wait" that "waiter" comes from is pretty archaic.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ok who the heck uses windows servers? I don't think even microsoft does.

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  • Too many businesses, lots just started with MS Small Business Server and Upgraded from there. Now they of course are all "upgrading" to MS Cloud Copilot plus max ms365 for Teams ultra or whatever they are calling it today because the CEO was convinced by their marketing Materials.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just about every government and business. I'm guessing you've never had a job in IT.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    well, maybe for the active directory, but for pretty much anything else...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Terminal servers, sccm, SQL, software that's only available for Windows. Companies and governments don't consider ideology when they choose a platform. They consider "what do I need to run this product" and "what's the TCO". Most larger orgs will have a healthy mix of windows and *nix servers and often a separate team to manage each.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The network responses are coming... from inside the house!

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    "They made fun of my router settings!" sobs

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