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[–] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

after 200 years, the house finally lives up to its name.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Idk if you seen prageru, basically had a cartoon where Christopher Columbus said how "being slave was better than being dead"

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  • [–] 144 points 1 year ago (10 children)
  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    No no no. My Good'ole'Boy high school curriculum told me the slaves were forced off the Plantation by the mean Union thugs in their War Of Northern Aggression.

    Clearly, this picture is just out of context or propaganda or idk he was clearly doing drugs and the police were just trying to help him out but he wouldn't stop resisting.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Slavery was such an ingrained institution that there was for sure some disruption brought by ending it - even some disruption for the enslaved.

    People can mine this for evidence that the Union harmed people by ending slavery, but that’s a bad faith outlet for slavery apologists, and nothing more.

    Good change can be disruptive. I guess we can always count on Conservatives to place “no change” above all other priorities though. It’s kind of right there in their name.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I guess we can always count on Conservatives to place “no change” above all other priorities though.

    Unless the changes are hiking tariffs, gutting regulations, and embarking on a new generation of wars.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Conservatives were never a "no change" party, anywhere. The thing they were conserving was the unearned privilige and prerogatives of the elite. Conservatism was started as a reaction against Englightment ideas of rule of law, meritocracy and accountability.

    Conservativism has always represented the interests of the elite, whether those interests were precedented (like neoptism) or not (like, say, the enclosure of the commons in the UK).

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered "within reason."

    See? Bright side to everything if you're enough of a monster.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    and that's not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it's not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.

    and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror

    That's what the "well-regulated militias" were for in the Second Amendment.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    How bout we enslave this fucking nazi turd. Drag his fat fucking ass around, go full mussolini.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If anyone deserves to be tortured and dismembered, it’s Trump.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I feel like the only way to teach them that slavery is wrong is to enslave them. I will personally volunteer to recreate the whipping scene from Roots for everyone who thinks slavery wasn't so bad. Starting with the orange.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    They would just claim your form of slavery is not what slavery was actually like back then. These people don’t want to learn or improve themselves. They want to be able to say “I win” without having to actually do anything.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Slavery is negative for a reason.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are you forgetting how good it was for all those slave owners though? They liked it a whole lot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Most slave owners in the US South weren't doing all that well. They typically had large debts and widely variable cashflow (not that they deserved sympathy for that). The ones who really made big money on slavery were the slave traders (and their investors) and the banks.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Whitehouse is not sane and should not be given any credence

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Can we just start revolting yet?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We can but pulling logistics online leaves us open to plan spying by the enemy. Even using Signal is not secure enough if the govt military can be outed on it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    To be fair to Signal, they kinda outed themselves by including that journalist in the chat. That's not really a fault of signal. But they also shouldn't have been using signal in the first place, so there's that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The people rising up would include most of the military. If not literally all

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Conservative idiots like Trump want to white (heh) wash slavery because they want to bring slavery back. Not just for black people, but of course especially for black people first, but also for all the other poors they think they can exploit to make themselves richer. Somehow they think everyone should be on board with this, and alas probably some subset of idiots will be even after they're already wearing the manacles themselves.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Slavery still exists in the US, it just now only mostly focused on African Americans. The Prison Industrial Complex is an abomination.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Yes, it still exists as the "except as punishment for a crime" loophole in the 13th amendment. And when fascists are in power, they love to make any arbitrary thing a crime so they have a justification to imprison anybody.

    Once they run out of farm workers due to having deported them all, expect Trump and his cronies to be super keen to staff those same farms using slave labor -- for profit, of course -- via just rounding up whoever else they don't like on phony charges.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s almost as if racism is a core value among American conservatives.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump feuding with a history museum. You'd think that would sound the 'fascist' alarm to his supporters, but seems like nothing will.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    When I was in middle school, we had to make a list of pros and cons of slavery for classwork. I remember it being homework but I can't see that bullshit flying if the parents knew.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I feel like there are two ways that list could go.

    The first is trying to whitewash slavery. The second is trying to help students understand why horrible things like this happen; why did entire economic systems get built for such a horrific practice.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    why did entire economic systems get built for such a horrific practice.

    Lol we are still under oppressive economic systems meant to strip us of our identities and leave us as worker slaves barely making ends meet but still deciding between medication or food. We live in the greatest country in the world /s

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Pros and cons from who's perspective?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That, detective, is the right question.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Skip, tldr; the god perspective, it wasn't the right question and wasted time. Obviously the perspective of the reader which if mentally stable understand the god perspective and thereby learn from it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I like it honestly. Remove the idiocratic "Because it's bad, duh".

    No. Make your research. Understand the problem. Feel the problem. See how far it gone, and why people used that, and what was the price to pay.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    So, teaching the horrors of slavery is woke now? They are just telling on themselves now.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    People sang more back then. There were hardly any workers comp claims. And it kept kids off their dang iPhones.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    And their great great grandchildren will get 40 acres and a mule.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Compensation should be the value of 40 acres and a mule, compounded at the going interest rate for 160 years. That bill shoud be paid by the states of the former Confederacy.

    Also, black people in those states should be given 5/3 of a vote for 100 years, to compensate for the 3/5 rule.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The logic:

    400 years of slavery but your great great grand grand kids have been taught 1 or 2 farming skills a piece.

    Oh, and we will be generous and only charge half price for those 400 years of your food and lodging.

    You owe us really...

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    museums should start showcasing trumps epstein and russian collusions in thier exhibits.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    There we go.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's amazing how all these dumbasses look exactly the same. I knew exactly what she'd look like even before watching the video.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Y’all know he’s demented as fuck, right?

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    I am so ready to go home and throw it in much trash Mormon mother's face. I hate that she buys into this shit.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    You need to take the bad with the good, otherwise you'll never understand how far we've come. We hold on to slavery to remind us what it took, how efforts were not in vain, and to continue work on pushing for the things we believe in. We are here today because of the hardships we have endured yesterday. It's not "white guilt", it's to remind the world that slavery is bad no matter who does it, to teach us what it looks like, and that we all benefit from eliminating slavery, no matter the form it takes.

    When we forget those things, we have things like the anti-vacc movement. People who have their own beliefs that fly in the face of reality, who've never had the experiences first hand, and to bend the notion of what is good. It rewrites the legacy of people's efforts, obscures the lessons used to fight, and trivializes the problems of the time. It manipulates both people and purpose and turns it against each.

    My own opinion: Nobody feels guilty about slavery. There are only those that feel regret it's not still around.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Black people loved slavery. There. I cut out all the euphemisms and just got us to the end goal to save us some time.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    We have to keep drilling in that slavery is bad because there are still so many fucking racists in this country.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago
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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh no!! Maybe he should go back in time and prevent the developement of chatel slavery, if he's so worked up about the historical representation of slavery in-general.

    That said, chatel slavery seems alive and well in the US Prison system. Maybe some of us really are too distracted by the history to bother fixing things in the present. Mr. Mangione allegedly might have something to say about it. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention at that cookout, back on December 4th.

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  • chatel slavery seems alive and well in the US Prison system

    You think so, and you're right, but ask yourself why TACO want would want to reframe slavery as "not that bad."

    Its because they're going to start renting out the detainees of the concentration camps for labor.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I thought they were all about facts not caring about their feelings

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Is it just me or is whitewashing slavery the first step in reinstituting slavery?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    just a reminder that Newsweek is a conspiracy-peddling, right-wing rag that we should not be driving traffic to

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    You can't understand progress without an understanding of historical reality.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Reminds of the video with the confederate idiot that talks about how his family was so poor and couldn't even afford slaves.

    Would no one think of the crackers??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJgTVvEkVg

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago
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    Jfc. If this administration rewrites anymore history the US is going to just up and disappear. First it's oh slavery wasn't that bad, then its what slaves? We didn't have slaves. Then we go full circle and have slaves again

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