Lindsey Halligan, the White House official leading a review of the Smithsonian Institution, said you "can't really talk about slavery honestly unless you talk about hope and progress" during a Newsmax appearance on Wednesday.

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[–] 44 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Anyone expressing this opinion should be seconded to a chain gang for an undefined period of time. Could be a day, could be thirty-four months, could be for life. Reap the benefits of progress! Hope harder!

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I think the case of "southern gentleman" Robert E. Lee shows the horrors of slavery. He inherited people as property from his father-in-law and refused to free them according to the will. They escaped his plantation under the understanding that they were legally emancipated:

    Lee's more strict expectations and harsher punishments of the slaves on Arlington plantation nearly led to a revolt, since many of the enslaved people had been given to understand that they were to be made free as soon as Custis died, and protested angrily at the delay. In May 1858, Lee wrote to his son Rooney, "I have had some trouble with some of the people. Reuben, Parks & Edward, in the beginning of the previous week, rebelled against my authority—refused to obey my orders, & said they were as free as I was, etc., etc.—I succeeded in capturing them & lodging them in jail. They resisted till overpowered & called upon the other people to rescue them."

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    Wesley Norris himself spoke out about the incident after the war, in an 1866 interview printed in an abolitionist newspaper, the National Anti-Slavery Standard. Norris said that after they had been captured, and forced to return to Arlington, Lee told them that "he would teach us a lesson we would not soon forget". According to Norris, Lee had the overseer tie the three of them firmly to posts, and ordered them whipped: 50 lashes for the men and 20 for Mary Norris. Norris claimed that Lee encouraged the whipping, and that when the overseer refused to do it, called in the county constable to do it instead. Unlike the anonymous letter writers, he does not state that Lee himself whipped any of the enslaved people. According to Norris, Lee "frequently enjoined [Constable] Williams to 'lay it on well', an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done."

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    It's the exact same cruel evil and unearned privilege seen in Republicans today. Hegseth would do this in a heartbeat if he could get away with it; any of Trump's carnival of monsters would.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    STFU and release the epstein files already.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you are black and vote R, you're a fucking moron.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    It is negative for a reason.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They're not wrong. They actually teach that slavery was abolished in the US..

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It was. The truth is they just rebranded it though. After they abolished it, a lot of the slaves we’re left homeless and jobless. They decided they needed to make vagrancy a crime and imprisoned them all. Guess what the constitution says? Slavery is abolished except for prisoners.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    "If slavery builds construction America is a dungeon" - Gabe 'Nandez 2025

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Next they'll say we're all being too negative about the holocaust

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    [–] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lesson #1: Do as you are told.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That’s not so bad: you have to work to get “texture”. The man’s a back artist and he couldn’t have done it without slavery. And he’s so much better off. Do you think anyone could get that kind of texture back in Affrica?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    "Slavery wasn't all bad."

    -The people that benefited from slavery.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago

    Epstein files.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You should see the CNN segment where a white lady argued with the black host that slavery wasn't a white thing. CNN, not Fox.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Slavery wasn't a white thing. Slavery was an everyone thing. At some point in time pretty much every culture and skin color participated in and benefited from slavery. Reducing slavery to only white owners and black slaves is incredibly incorrect, and teaching slavery like that is absolutely going to brainwash our kids.

    But the big caviat here is that the discussion was specifically about slavery in the United States of America. In the US. It was almost exclusively white people that owned slaves.

    It's not about blaming everything bad on white people. It's about remembering OUR history, and the history of THIS country, is built on racism and white supremacy and we should teach our kids that.

    She is intentionaly arguing in bad faith to lie and misinformation people.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    “Political balance”

    If slavery and genocide have to be viewed positively for you to feel heard then you should reevaluate yourself.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Sure. Let me rot in jail to take of the one person that represents all the assholes that will still be alive and share his beliefs. That checks out.

    It sucks, but this pain teaches the future generations how god-damned crazy they sound. It's not an overnight fix. It's going to take decades.

    It would in fact be better if a foreign country took care of it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I never said anything about my heritage. Or justifying idiotic racists. I live in one place. I raise a kid. I can't just drop everything and go on a tirade to save everyone. Neither can anyone else. Saying it's "cowardice" shows how disconnected you are from reality. Not everyone has the means to make change other than being a good example and showing other they are being dick heads when they are being dick heads.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You seem to be a bit mentally unhinged. If you have the energy, go fight the fight. I tried in my younger years and can't keep up the fight. It's up to the newer generation.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No, I'm not complicit because I'm not a barely discriminate murderer.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    “Barely discriminate murderers,” everyone:

    But hey, at least you’re great at following instructions.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Please be satire

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I watched “The Woman King” recently and it is kind of crazy. The tribes were basically selling their own people or captured people of other tribes for profit. Looking at the genocide that was and still is happening in Africa.

    Did those people that were sold actually help their future ancestors?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, in the case of the movie they wouldn't be selling them if there weren't European slave traders to begin with. So that kind of debunks your premise.

    I get that people don't want to be apologetic for what happened, but trying to portray it as positive takes a special kind of ignorance.

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