Well folks, it finally happened. The screen in your pickup truck… your last bastion of peace from the chaos of unskippable advertisements… now plays popup ads. Not even subtle ones. We’re talking full-dash, head-unit-commandeering infomercial panels in your RAM 1500, like you’re driving a Times Square billboard on wheels.

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[–] 170 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Feel like ads in cars should be illegal, but the US doesn't have a government that believes in good things.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's not true. Our government cares about something. They care about ads.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    If it’s like the other cars with this same shit then it only plays when fully stopped.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    And that somehow makes it better?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Absolutely fucking not.

    My attention is not free and they have no fucking right to my attention.

    And second, fuck them for thinking they do.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's obviously better not to show ads while you're driving. How could anyone think otherwise?

    The question was if it is better to show ads only when the car is stopped. Your answer is for a different question: should it show ads at all. Being angry at me isn't going to make Dodge stop this stupid idea.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m not mad at you at all. I’m mad at the motherfuckers who think they have a right to my attention.

    But to respond - it’s not better, because either option is detestable. I reject both.

    You correctly called it that we’re answering different questions. I reject the question you’re answering, because I do not accept advertisements in my vehicle, that I own, as a foregone conclusion. You accidentally’d a step in accepting their bullshit.

    I literally would rather threaten legal action, or show up outside their advertising executive’s house with a megaphone to try to sell them some scammy bullshit while they expect privacy. Maybe I’d even read off the advertising I get on the console. (Not that I’d ever buy a RAM truck, but still.)

    New Business Idea: Buy unzoned property that can be used to block scenic overlooks around the homes of scummy advertising executives. Put up billboards.

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  • [–] 109 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Of course Stellantis was first to do it

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  • [–] 86 points 1 year ago

    “Hey guys our sales are falling through the floor faster than Tesla, maybe we should rework our pricing and reconsider our policies towards buyers to move more volume and improve our imagine.”

    “ Uh… nah. How about instead, we put ads on the center console!”

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just got new neighbors out here in rural Kansas. They have two kias and a ram pickup for the man. If only they had a jeep it would be like a nearly complete set of the shittiest vehicles money can buy. Looking forward to exciting things here.

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  • [–] 183 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I remember a while ago when this started appearing in chargers and they tried to act like it was an accident.

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  • [–] 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is the defacto stance of advertising agencies doing horrible things.

    "OOHHHH, You mean you DIDN'T want ads on your coffee maker or vibrator??? Our bad. This was a technical error we will fix immediately!"

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Back at the office:

    So it seems people don't like ads on their vibrator which means they are viewing them. Let's wait a couple of years for the anger to die down then do it again.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Why do they keep trying to sell us things to improve "my lifestyle."

    My lifestyle is pretty much work, then coming home to do errands, maybe video games. I don't need tacky truck nuts or whatever they're selling.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I want one of those barebones trucks that don't even have radios

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Apart from how insane it is to put obtrusive ads on a car dashboard, having to link your phone to your car and then call a phone number to opt out of touchscreen display ads is 🤯

    There is going to be a reason that they've set it up like that.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It wasn't asking them to pair their phone to call the number to opt out, it was asking them to pair their phone so they could call the number to buy parts for their truck. You'd have to manually dial the number to opt out.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    When calling that number, the caller will need somekind of proof that they are in control of the car that they are trying to opt out of ads. Afaik, the easiest way to accomplish that when requiring a phonecall, would be pairing phone and car. But obviously Stellantis is not going for easy with this setup, so this is purely speculation on my part.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Someday in a few years there will be an accident in the opt out service that routes 95% of attempts into a 500 error screen. All they have to do is underpay and never check on the server admin for that service for years until they don't care.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is why I'm not going to buy RAM / Dodge / Chrysler/ Jeep / anything Stellantis owns, and this is why I'm not buying any new car with "smart" / "built-in" junk.

    I don't know of any car that has an actually good head unit. Its either garbage because its a giant touch screen, making it super difficult to navigate without looking (that's why all the controls in an airplane are different shapes and sizes), or its just a hub for you to run Android Auto / apples equivalent.

    Now ads? Ffs...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    My Honda civic 2012's head unit firmware isn't that bad.

    It tells your input source, volume, if your trunk is open, if your tires are fucked, and includes a hookup for a backup camera that only made it into other models, making it ezpz to retrofit.

    Could be a lot worse. Wouldn't touch a modern one with a ten foot pole lmao.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "Front left tyre is fucked." "Your fucking trunk is open."

    Now that I would not mind having shown when starting the car.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Actually the bastard won't tell you what specific tire. Just that one of them has low air pressure.

    Kind of a dick move since there's no way the computer can't tell which tire it is when they're four separate sensors.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Mine will tell me the measured pressures of all tires. But only if at least one is low. I haven't found a way to get it to just tell me the pressure in any tire if it's not throwing an error at me.

    Dear Mazda, you have a full user interface in your vehicle. Why can't you let me see the tire pressure from just a menu option?

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    How is this street legal? Can't use your phone but can have popup ads?

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  • [–] 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm going to start pointing to this when I explain to people why I want "dumb" machines.

    I don't want AI to "summarize" my google search, I don't want ads distracting drivers, I don't want a washing machine that needs updates, I don't want my TV to look at me, I want a submissive little machine that does task X.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ngl bro but I’ve found some good uses for AI. My kids school gave me 2 bullshit pdfs with duplicate information for their school supplies. I uploaded them to chatgbt and asked it to simplify it by combining duplicates and putting it in bullet format that was easily copy pastable. Did it in 30 seconds with minor tweaking and made my back to school shopping so much easier.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    AI is not universally bad. There are some things it does well. The problem is that there are a lot more things it does badly, often in harmful ways, and most people using it have no idea how to tell the difference.

    You seem to be using it the right way, with caution and awareness.

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Here's an AI summary of your distain for AI:

    I'll begin saying this when people ask why I want "dumb" machines.

    AI summaries lack quality, ads distract drivers, you want a washing machine without ads, you don't want your TV to watch you, you want machines to be submissive.

    How did I do?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    And not even a fucking "don't show again" option. Either "call" or "remind me later". So there is no escape. Either take the ad in the ass or it'll show up again. Fuck that

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    There is an X in the corner at least

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is just terrible. Every aspect of life doesn't need ads. I don't care if it makes a company money or not.

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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I call on all hackers to defeat this parasitic disease from incorporating our everyday lives only to make money for its creators. Ads are a fucking disease and needs to be contrroled from entering our lives without our permission.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I call on all Americans to start the revolution so we can treat the disease instead of the symptoms.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Stellantis is a Dutch group. If we head to Michigan and get the CEO, they'll just appoint a new one... Unless you're suggesting the Americans invade the Netherlands...

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    Driver distraction is a leading cause of accidents, including fatal ones. This is a total dealbreaker, should be illegal, and should result in Chrysler getting sued into nonexistence.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Have you ever seen a smart person driving a DUI1500?

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