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[–] 170 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Legally my state can’t tell us why. They banned the words that you would use to describe the situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's a shame all the people most likely to go on about Nineteen Eighty-Four (the far right nut jobs), don't recognise this as Newspeak. And actively support their own oppressors.

    What the actual fuck, what state is this?

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    which state if you do not mind me asking?

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Florida. Can’t talk about climate change.

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  • [+] 45 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    CLEARLY the intensifying hurricanes and rising water levels are the work of THE WOKE LEFT and their EVIL WEATHER WEAPONS powered by JEWISH MAGIC SPACE LASERS!!!

    /s

    Florida is falling apart and sinking into the ocean, and it's their own damn fault. Insurance is no longer covering storms and flooding because both are getting SO common and SO extreme that by the time they've finalized payment for one case, the same party has filed 3 more. This is further exasperated by the rampant suburban sprawl Florida is known for, as they bulldozed and developed the coastal flood zones (read: the everglades, the swamps, the coves and inlets, all the little islands and water features that help mitigate storm damage) in order to build more fucking McMansion neighborhoods for retiring Boomers, only for them to get washed away in the next storm. Add on to this an openly Fascist and anti-urban development/public infrastructure (except highways, always more money for highways! Just one more lane bro, we promise!) government, and you get Modern Florida.

    Honestly, the best thing that could happen for Florida is if everyone left it, and they ceded it back to the wildlife. We failed, give it up, and move on.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    we know its getting badin florida has very little news coming out of it, due to all the trump shaninigans recently. hows the tourism going on there, DISNEY? whos picking your oranges in florida?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The orange trees are dying from fungus anyway. Monoculture and climate change were gonna kill OJ at some point anyway. That’s why it’s coming in smaller plastic bottles for higher prices already. Right? It’s not just naked profiteering, right?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Don't forget their 'solution' to this is to uh, checks notes, abolish property taxes... and replace the lost revenue with increased sales taxes.

    In a state massively reliant on tourism.

    I concur, Florida is completely a lost cause, the best thing to do would indeed be to just let nature reclaim it, the humans that live there largely won't in 10 to 20 years,.no matter what is done, at this point.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    As a geologist I think the deep time context makes this pretty interesting. Florida is a shallow limestone platform that was built underwater. It's only been above ground for the past few million years because recently our planet has had a lot of polar ice cover. Its position above sea level is just as anomalous as the insane developmental practices of the boomers. So it's fitting that they both go down together now, although it's unfortunate for all of the people who suffer needlessly because of their arrogance.

    I hope successive generations will learn to live in harmony with nature and accept that their actions have consequences outside of their tiny worldview.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The explanation is that conservative boomers are very, very well versed in gaslighting, enforcing reality denial on others, to keep themselves from ever having to entertain the the idea that they were ever wrong about anything, ever.

    ... and if they were wrong, it wasn't a big deal, and if it was a big deal, then you deserved it, and if you didn't deserve it, then it doesn't matter in the long run because in the long run we are all dead, etc, ad infinitum.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Burn it down. Wait, no, that would contribute to climate change

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Burn only the ac units. Would solve the problem and be a help in reducing energy emissions.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh that's fine then. Just call it the climate emergency or catastrophe.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Every single metric that was laid out decades ago has not only been reached it has been surpassed. We're so fucking fucked on an unimaginable scale and it's honestly terrifying how no one seems to care.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm really looking forward to the deaths of oldest, stupidest, and loudest of the people who don't care. In fact, many of them die every day. As the salt water infiltrates their reinforced caskets and slowly attacks their preservative-ridden corpses, the planet heals itself.

    Imagine you were born into a world that just experienced the defeat of fascism, the dawn of the nuclear age, the green revolution, the triumph of fordist production, and Keynesian economics. You might have been arrogant enough to think you've conquered nature, too.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I care alot. That's why I got a vasectomy. Don't you care your kids? Then dont have them. In the best case scenario, they would lord over wage slaves who would make your kids money. Why would you want that for your kids? And thats the best case...

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Man, those libs are sure working overtime selling their hoax.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've been told that AI will fix this

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Those who have money to do something about it but aren't doing anything about it should share the consequences... No Air Conditioner for them..

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Oh, they're absolutely doing a lot about it. They're funding climate change denial lobbyists, selling land that's vulnerable to climate change, and buying land that will improve with it. The working class will be left holding the bag...again

    Smithsonian Magazine

    Example Organization

    Wikipedia Article about The Organization

    Edit: Links

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    it goes further than that, the oil/gas companies are funding subterfuge groups, basically they funding "protest" that are upright annoying, and deface property, which helps turn the public against them in the name of global warming. additionally they fund movements, like reducing carbon footprint, and people also SUSsed out companies that "how do reduce your carbon usage by buying our enviromentally friendly products". that way they dont need to reduce thier own emissions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Truly awful. Like tobacco executive levels of amoral behavior.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    on some nature channels, people were calling out these companies as they are being promoted by the owners, i think that got the message and stopped promoting them, it would be hypocritical for them keep promoting on thier channels, when all the animals are endagered due to deforestation, global warming, encroachment.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why would they need air conditioning with their heads in a guillotine basket?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To keep their executioners nice and cool.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    One of my favorite copes in the USA is that all this weather data is faked by Democrats / leftists, so no need to worry about it.

    Another popular take is: "China is really filthy, so why should we try to be clean?"

    "By the time things go really bad, I'll be dead, so who cares?"

    Basically selfish people being selfish. I'd like to leave the world better than I found it, not worse.

    This is why we can't have anything nice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well, when I read your examples, I'm also like: WTF?

    But at the same time, I also can't justify doing more than I'm already doing when companies and billionaires are so wasteful. I do recycle plastics etc, but it is becoming very difficult to justify me having to take this action, when 3M down the river just dumps all possible forever chemicals in our rivers and even have a government issued permit allowing them to do so.

    So in short, on some level, I'm also selfish. Let the corporations and billionaires that pollute the most take action. There is very little someone like me can do, and I'm already doing most of the stuff I can. For instance, we have 2 electric cars, solar panels, well insulated home with a heatpump, we recycle as much we can, etc...

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    the part of scandinavia north of the arctic circle can get crazy hot in the summer, because the sun doesn't set. i think norway has a cooler climate than sweden overall due to the scandes, but when i lived up there my 60s concrete apartment building started heating up so much due to the midnight sun that inside temps didn't go below 29 degrees for like half of august. the walls were literally radiating heat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    This would be great to exploit for some kind of reservoir-based heating and cooling system.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    we do have those for district heating, but they're usually composed of water. the finns are experimenting with sand too. thing is, +/- 30 degrees isn't much to work with. all the heat battery systems i've seen that work are running in the hundreds of degrees. well, except the water ones of course, but even those run close to boiling point.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It isn’t just that, there’s also a massive ocean current that brings warm, tropical water up there. It’s also why Atlantic Europe is so warm despite being generally as north or more than frickin’ Montréal where last winter we got 70-80cm of snow in 48hrs.

    This is still a massive problem, of course.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    let that sink in

    agree, it's too high

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Im excited for the world's biggest battle royal at the pole. The circle closing in will be a lethal wet bulb temperature.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think it ironic that the South europeans have started coming here for "coolcation" only to find it almost as hot as down there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I get the reasoning, but it's not all about latitude. The Gulf Stream and Polar Front Jet Stream have huge impacts on local climates. Britain would probably have a lot more beaches with cool temperatures if they're looking for those in an easily accessible country from Europe.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I can only remember one summer with more than a day or two of 30+ degrees c. They are usually right to come here for more comfortable temperatures. We usually want to leave the other way when we have rainy 12 degrees summers.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Huh, another thing I learned on lemmy. Thanks for helping keep this place better than the r-word.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not all summers are rainy though, but it kind of feels like it. A normal good summer day is mid twenties. I'm from just about where the post is about. Futher south is more consistently nice.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago
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    Real estate investment funds are scrambling to pick up coastal acreage of Norway's hottest new vacation beach front property.

    (Sarcasm doesn't cover ir. Tragic jest maybe?)

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Meanwhile in Central Europe there’s snowfall in the alps and max temperatures are below 15C even in the lowlands.

    We’re so fucked

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I used to ski every year since i was a child, but i took a good 10-12 year break. When i went back in the region i usually went skiing, the glacier was pretty much gone. At least compared to what i remembered. It was quite shocking.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So Norway is warming up? Imagine the pristine year round hiking in those mountains. Beautiful if not for the horrors that got us here.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Well no. We have around 20% increase in rain as well as higher temperatures. So unless you fancy hiking in a swamp we were better off with the snow.

    I feel lucky if I get one good ski trip a season these days. It's awful.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    What year was this?

    Edit: ok the thin red line is peak highs for all recorded years. The blue line is peak lows.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The red isn't peak high for all years. According to the legend in the upper left, the red line is the high temperature for those days in 2025. The other lines peaking up around it are past years.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not but I’m not referring to the 2025 line. I marked it in yellow in my screenshot

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    Don't worry; it's only temporary.

    'Course, once it stops Norway will have a much worse problem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThcIgJyNME

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    On the bright side we may uncover more Otzis.

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