That's why my email provider is in Norway and not Switzerland. Norway has much stronger privacy laws.
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For those who didn't read the article
“If the proposals pass, Proton’s services in Switzerland would be less private than Google’s,” Mr Yen told Le Temps. Frustrated by the lack of assurances from Beat Jans, the federal councillor overseeing the matter, Proton has opted to halt Swiss investments and shift its infrastructure plans abroad. Its artificial-intelligence data centres, deemed especially sensitive, will be located in Germany and Norway and involve investing CHF 100 million.
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Proton AI never makes sense in the first place.
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Good, fuck the swiss if they try to kill privacy, it was the only reason they got so much investment from the west.
Fair enough. The proposed VÜPF changes suck balls.
They need to fire their CEO and get an executive suite that can develop good products and not just copy Google while adding keywords related to "privacy" and "freedoms" in their marketing copytext.
That's the exact same thing as Google.
I say this as long time Proton user and subscriber.
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People here be acting like no one uses chatbots.
I like Lumo, be it only because I can use it instead of US or Chinese LLMs. Hope they help drive european AI development. And I'm quite sure Proton thought about their 1 billion investment a bit before announcing it.
You can refuse to use LLMs, but I doubt the use of AI will ever decrease again.
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Yeah Russia’s the only one who gets Proton data
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“I never like it when companies try to pressure Switzerland or its people with money,” he said. “In a democracy, the right way is to argue, not threaten to leave.” Allowing firms to dictate policy by brandishing relocation threats, he warned, “is the worst possible outcome—for democracy itself.”
That does happen. But is that really what's happening here? I can't imagine it's just a threat. It looks like the government is considering a law that makes Proton's entire business model illegal in Switzerland. As a result it would only make sense for them to start working on moving elsewhere. It seems a completely natural, obvious, even necessary consequence.
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Samuel Bendahan, a Socialist member of parliament, told RTS that he shares Proton’s concerns about state overreach but dislikes the firms tactics. “I never like it when companies try to pressure Switzerland or its people with money,” he said. “In a democracy, the right way is to argue, not threaten to leave.” Allowing firms to dictate policy by brandishing relocation threats, he warned, “is the worst possible outcome—for democracy itself.”
While they have a point, what else should they do? If this gets written into law, there is nothing else they can do but leave. And I don't read it as a threat, but as a logical consequence.
That's a well written overview, thanks
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