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[–] 39 points 1 year ago (22 children)

That's why my email provider is in Norway and not Switzerland. Norway has much stronger privacy laws.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    What? Police can "subpoena" whatever the fuck they want. ISPs must log and keep them for years. Will share with allied intelligence services and Interpol. Never thought of Norwegian privacy laws as particularly strong..

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The article states that Proton plans to move certain (AI) data centers to Germany and Norway, as they seemed those the most sensitive. I can imagine if these laws/policies are enacted, they would look to move all services.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Well, Proton can move wherever they want and be as good as they what, I'll never be a customer again because of what their fuckhead CEO Andy Yen said.

    I don't care that he's backpedaled, I don't care that Andy Yen isn't Proton-the-company, and I'm even willing to accept it was a very unfortunate duh moment on his part. Here the thing: I don't have many ways as a nobody to get back at Trump, but one way is to not give any of my money to anybody who enabled him, even by mistake.

    So Proton is on my shitlist forever thanks to Yen.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yeah right, so much better to have your e-mails stored in clear text. With E2EE, I don’t give any fucks about local laws. My data stays my data.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Doesn't proton's e2ee only work if you're emailing with another proton user?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Protons' copy is always encrypted. E2EE doesn't apply when the recipient is on an external mail server (unless you explicitly encrypt it with their public PGP key).

    This still provides the major benefit of encrypting your email archive, and protection from data breach.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not well versed in encryption, can't they just decrypt them at will? When I use their webmail I just login, I don't provide any decryption pass

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That’s not entirely accurate. All metadata is encrypted, too, with the only exception of your IP. But there are ways to hide that, too, if necessary. So you only see the IP, date-time and how much data is transferred. But you will never see what was transferred or what is stored.

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