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[–] 268 points 1 day ago (9 children)

All the other billionaires are shocked and sickened by his inexplicable attraction to age appropriate women

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  • [–] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    this happened in hungary too lol, orban and his gaggle of authoritarians tried to bury our then-candidate pm with a scandal that he's been having consensual sex with an adult woman

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  • [–] -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Wasn't she still younger, just not underage?

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  • [–] 83 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    The president doesn’t report to a board of directors

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  • [–] 69 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    We the people were supposed to be the bord of directors then they made corporations people and the people consumers.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago

    No, "We the People" were never in charge. They convinced you that we were making choices, while keeping up the appearance of democracy. Then they lied about it when the oligarchs overruled us. They've just stopped pretending to care what we think.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    The president is supposed to report to a 300M-member board of directors

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Sadly, around half (give or take a few percent, depending on recent developments) of this board seems to be just as corrupted as their president.

    Even these midterms still saw millions of people voting for a continuation of this clusterfuck of (financial, moral and legal) corruption. Trump really is just a symptom of a much larger amount of rot.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    honestly, the crazy part to me was the amount of both parties suck propaganda. like yes, they do, but voting for the one that sucks less is still mathematically the best choice. but i think a lot of republican-aligned "centrists" who couldn't bring themselves to vote for this mess were terrified that the dems would come out to vote and tried to stop that.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 day ago* (14 children)

    Normally the CEO doesn't resign over a mistress, it's that this one happened to be a spy. Stocks dropped, people lose money, heads gotta roll

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  • [+] -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

    There is zero evidence that she was a spy. This is cold war era propaganda that we should really have learned to investigate by now. The source of this information is the US state which has provided zero hard evidence. Journalist are simply citing what the state told them. The evidence we do have points towards her being the head of a singaporean shell company used to sell computer parts in China through Alibaba. This is most likely a hit by the US state to take out a CEO who wasn't doing what they wanted. He was skirting export restrictions and this is state sanctioned libel meant to remove him from a position of power.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    So she's not a chinese spy, just head of a chinese shell company to circumvent selling restrictions and sleeping with the CEO.

    What would a spy do in your opinion?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    Right?! I was laughing reading that.

    Sure shes spyin, but can you really call her a spy? She was simply stealing national security secrets and getting round export controls for a fake Chinese company. Who amongst us has not done such things.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    A spy would be gathering sensitive intelligence, i.e. spying, not running a smuggling operation... that makes her a smuggler.

    What is the evidence for her conducting espionage?

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 child)

    A spy would be a government agent who's purpose is to collect and transmit sensitive information from one nation to another with the goal of undermining the target nations security. She is a smuggler who traffics commodities for money, not a spy.

    Alternatively you could argue that corporate spies exist but this takes the form of infiltrating a rival company to access private information to be utilized by the spying company for their own private benefit at the detriment of the spied upon company. In our case the relationship was a mutually beneficial trafficking operation.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago

    So there's no evidence and we're presenting theories.

    She was the director of singaporean companies that smuggled NVIDIA AI chips to private Chinese tech companies and AI proxy datatcenters in SE Asia, bragging to investors about securing access to NVIDIA.

    Chinese state policy is to focus on R&D into advanved semi conductors, not to fund corrupt black market smugglers fuelling the AI bubble and not even national security & intelligence, this doesn't even definitely benefit them, her actions don't sound like what a spy would do but what a corrupt private businessman and smuggler could.

    Not to mention regardless of whether she is a spy or not, there is no actual evidence and the theory of her being a spy proportional to likelihood has instead suspiciously large amount of support from anonymous US intelligence officials, neocons and right wing outlets because it is a far too convenient of an excuse to justify warmongering and espionage.

    That's another theory and opinion.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    The term "spy" might be a little sensational here, but consider that these export controls are in place for (supposedly) national security reasons but also to limit corporate espionage. So maybe she wasn't sneaking around in a ninja suit and planting surveillance gadgets, but if she was sleeping with him as part of a scheme to circumvent export controls then espionage may actually be the appropriate term for that AND it makes for sensational headlines.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago

    Ooo, I dunno, she is the head of a Singaporean company that sells through Alibaba, open and shut case if you ask me. Definitely a spy, just like the thousands of other execs fitting that description.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago

    I don't understand this part honestly.

    Isn't anyone he interacts with a spy? As in, every employee, every girlfriend - all highly valuable recruitable assets for foreign powers and business competitors.

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  • [–] 73 points 1 day ago* (24 children)

    It's not that he has multiple mistresses. It's that his mistress is the head of a company in Singapore that popped up after graphics cards restrictions to China hit in 2023, and their only customer is Alibaba.

    And that's what we know so far.

    This is not to say it's worse than Trump's allegations, but this isn't just Huang having an extramarital affair.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    This is the real explanation. Huang's behavior has cost other rich people money. Trump's behavior has not. Simple

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    Companies got to keep that money after they were declared unconstitutional. No company's bottom line was hurt by any tariff.

    My favorite was Costco telling customers they're just going to have more sales to save customers more money or something stupid instead of giving any tariff money back.

    Edit: no trump donor company's bottom line*

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Costco didn't raise their prices to compensate for the tariffs, unlike basically every other retail company. They actually ate the cost before they were refunded.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    The tariffs helped at least some rich people (you can tell because that's the only reason Trump doss anything). The rich don't have perfect class solidarity indeed, so it comes down to who is most powerful and doing the most winning. And its true Huang also most likely made some people richer in doing this, but they were in a different country and therefore less able to protect him. Big mistake to enrich the people who don't have legal jurisdiction over you at the expense of people who do

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    This thread is so full of information and this is the first comment actually speaking the truth. The media is pushing the affair as the big news but that's not the story.

    It's treason. Aided by the Trump administration who has known for well over a year.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    At this point I'm convinced it's intentional and coordinated. There is so much focus on the part of this story that matters the least (aka the affairs) that it tends to bury the actually bad part.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I think people think the spy shit mattered. I am pretty sure the 2 (and maybe more who knows) employees he was fucking was the bigger problem for the board. They were fine with him skirting export bans, that’s more money. That she was a “Chinese spy” is great for them they can pretend they weren’t at fault and it was them being exploited by the big bad cummunists, while Trump knew and didn’t give a fuck.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The spy shit is what opened the floodgates.

    Of course Trump doesn't care, but Rubio knew it was a problem. Rubio didn't write a memo on the employees Huang was sleeping with, the memo was on the spy. And I wouldn't put it past Rubio in having a hand in making sure this is a bigger story.

    More money is nice, but with Dems coming into more power, NVIDIA is likely going to be answering some tough questions on unreported income. Having sex with two subordinates isn't what's going to get Jensen pulled in front of Congress. There's going to be questions asked if this just end with sales, or if IP was transferred, and where all that unreported money went. There are few rules that you can't break in this country if you're rich enough, but ripping off rich shareholders is still a big no no.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Treason not of the nation but of other rich people's wallets is the only rule that you can never break no matter who you are.

    That's the real gotcha.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago*

    Not really: corporate boards of directors & stockholders are better coordinated & focused on narrower goals of protecting a business's earning potential than the entire voting populace and government institutions are in coordinating or even agreeing on the broader mission of government. Half the people seem virulently hostile to the government and want it to fail.

    If half the corporate directors and investors wanted it fail, you could expect similar results and failures. However, people don't tend to invest in companies with the intent of destroying the worth of their investment.

    This shouldn't surprise anyone who spares the slightest moment to think seriously about the obvious, structural differences. Profit-driven businesses are simpler to govern than national governments.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'll take corporate espionage and that sort of shit over sweeping victimizing, raping, and murdering children under the rug 10/10 times. "That's not to say it's worse than..." - It isn't even fucking close.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    Sure, but are you rich?

    Probably not, because you seem to have some moral compunctions.

    It's not an issue of what is "better" or "worse" from a moral perspective, it's an issue of who lost money. Nvidia's value is dropping because it's pretty clear this woman had access to things within the company that she should not have, because of her relationship with Huang. Huang has demonstrated that he is an unreliable investment vehicle. Huang must leave or be pushed out.

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago*

    I mean if you look at Gamers Nexus' latest video, nVidia chips have been found in Russian drones... How many children have those outright killed?

    Financial crimes also kill people, by the way, as a side effect.

    Now, of course Trump has Jensen beat, but despite how viscerally horrible raping children is... That's not Trump's worst crime.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Nah. He wasn't even asked to step down, the idea wasn't even floated, until the second (and third) mistress was discovered.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago

    Knowledge of his mistresses were an open secret in NVIDIA. These are all people who have enabled his behaviour every step of the way. He's been their only CEO, my bet is the delay was more about getting their ducks in a row before he left. Their board (like Tesla) are a bunch of yesmen willing to fall in line because Jensen makes line go up.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    The funny thing is that from what we know; he's not likely some "I'm gonna help China destroy the US! Muahahaha!" Kind of guy.

    His public statements about trade restrictions have been very much "dude, I wanna sell more shit and make more money; China is a huge market. Wtf happened to 'free market' shit?"

    Like, if she really was a spy he likely just got honey potted. He's clearly known for having mistresses. Think that's a pretty obvious open secret for anyone that knew him. And if she did convince him to be more positive towards trade with China there is literally no reason I can think that's better than just the incentives of a CEO to make more money.

    I just find it funny if China was able to obtain information, or sway opinions, from one of the most important CEOs in the USA; because that CEO was frustrated that America wasn't allowing him to Capitalism hard enough.

    Like, I hope for the US Capitalist sake that she isn't a spy. Because it's just pathetic if she is. The "scary communist state" of China was able to honeypot a CEO and turn him towards pro China trade by literally just appealing to "free market capitalism". Because that's literally all we have that is concrete from his actions or words.

    China is winning in the same way it always has. Offering American capitalist the candy that they want; you can't make this shit up.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    Yeah its not just 'mistress', its:

    Mistress that really seems to have engaged in the mass unsanctioned import of export-controlled equipment, and the likely illegal exporter of this export-controlled equipment was the lover of said mistress, who thus also massively illegally exported this equipment.

    The affair is incidental, the main issue is dodging export restrictions that were in place for national security purposes.

    Like, if the US actually enforced its own laws, Huang would be facing prison for potentially 20 to 40 years.

    But they allowed him to flee to Beijing, so... whoopsie daisy, I guess!

    Corrolary to this; this is part of why its delusionally hilarious for Elon to offer Huang a job. In all likelihood, under a Democratic government, Huang would be instantly arrested... Huang likely can never safely return to the USA, rofl.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago

    Also the others are people IN HIS COMPANY that may or may not have gotten jobs BECAUSE of those affairs. Which is a huge no no.

    Less than the spy stuff but enough for the board to be like “your huang will take us all down if it cannot be contained”.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    It's not about having a mistress. Huang is successfully controlling the narrative which is the actual shocker. Do people even realize Elon fucking Musk... exists?! You know, as in being a CEO of SpaceX and Tesla? The guy has more children with affairs than he attends board meetings and nobody ever cared.

    It was never about that at all for Huang but about illegally smuggling hardware into China, cozying up to Trump and the Democrats subsequently sweeping the midterms. He fears for a harsh sentence under a different president so he wants this to be over quickly and get a pardon. It's blatantly obvious he controls the narrative to different affairs as soon as people start asking the actual questions and it's painful to see people falling for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago (5 children)

    Is he though? Public opinion doesn’t really matter and he’s already been summoned to testify before Congress about it.

    Pretty sure the people that actually matter here are all about the illegal Chinese smuggling bit and not the sex.

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  • [–] 7 points 23 hours ago* (2 children)

    Summoned to testify. How often do any of these investigations result in people going to jail? He’s rich af, so odds are nothing will happen to him.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    We'll see, but the original post is clearly not aware that the reason he's in trouble is because he just got caught doing big big crimes with his mistress.

    The sex stuff is fine, no one cares. It's all the international crimes they were doing that is a no-no.

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago*

    Yeah, that’s what I said?

    He’s actually in trouble because of the criminal stuff. Not because some idiots online think it’s because of the affairs.

    That was my point. Some dipshit twitter users aren’t actually affecting anything. He’s not “controlling the narrative” at all when he’s still facing a huge criminal shitstorm.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago (17 children)

    Or how raping his own sister doesn't bring a CEO down but consensual sex with adults does another.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    cheating scandals are such slop
    like
    its just a personal matter
    well, like, if you wanted to be poly, maybe you should have agreed on an open relationship
    thats it

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Most that cheat don't want to be poly, I imagine. They get off on the fact that they shouldn't be doing it

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    Sam Altman's sister alleged (and even started a civil lawsuit, not sure if anything came of it) that he regularly raped and sexually abused her in their teens.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    While he is a piece of shit, she is also very mentally ill.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (6 children)

    Do you realize what sexual abuse does to mental health? Stating that she has mental health issues is more of a hint that something might have happened to her, and does not exonerate Sammy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    It could be a hint that something happened to her somewhere or it could be a hint that she is mentally ill. I’m not passing judgement on her claims as nobody knows the truth of them but it is important context that she is very mentally ill. Sam has antisocial traits too; should we assume he was sexually abused? Or, and hear me out, their personality disorders could possibly be part of that whole being related thing. Sam is also a prolific liar. It’s not that I beleive Sam, it’s that I don’t think either is reliable for anything resembling truth.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

    This is what you just said: I'm not passing judgment on her claims, I just think her claims aren't credible because people who suffer from depression and PTSD aren't credible.

    Go fuck yourself, then read a book.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (2 children)

    No I think people with borderline personality disorder aren’t credible.

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  • [–] 17 points 21 hours ago

    So obviously a lot of fools that can't connect the obvious dots are going to say ALLEGED pedophile. Ok, fine. However, he is an adjudicated rapist. So you can say that in the U.S. being an actual rapist doesn't bring down a president and have it be 100% undeniably true.

    The bar has been lowered. Severely. And the only way to raise that bar again is to bring justice to the rapist desecrating the office of the presidency.

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  • [–] 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    I mean, we really ought to just never have a president again. Too much power concentrated in one place.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago

    The US should have a leader who is technically the head of the country but whose powers are basically ceremonial. He should swear in the leader of the house, appoint certain high-ranking officials (on the consent of the house leader) and sign laws into effect. He could be the one sent to other countries as a representative of the USA, and he'd be welcomed with red carpets, etc. But, he couldn't actually enter any negotiations or anything. He could even wear a military uniform to look extra cool.

    In short, the US should have a King.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago

    Easy.

    A CEO is accountable to shareholders. A president is accountable to no one (at least while in office, per SCOTUS).

    Alternatively, the CEO affects investments; a president is the investment.

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  • [–] 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

    More so the smuggling of chips then the mistress. People are saying it's the mistress to try and distract the public from the smuggling that makes up 20% of nvidia sales

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 child)

    Still, cheating on your spouse is more immoral than smuggling chips. And child rape is among the worse things a human can do to another.

    But only one of those matters in this country and it wasn't even a crime until a couple of years ago.

    And that's a fucking problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    Ousting the CEO was a bottom dollar decision, not a morality decision. A corporation breaking US export control laws for ITAR technology has a much greater impact on investor bottom lines than any type of CEO sex scandal.

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