I ended up getting a mini computer with Linux and getting a Rii keyboard remote. Then I can browse to any streaming service with a browser or kodi.
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Android TV boxes are the way to go IMO. Lots of replacement launchers and ways to remove all the baked-in ads and the like, even if you can't root the device.
If you're stateside, Walmart's ONN brand devices are the absolute best bang for your buck you can find. They're not locked down, so you're able to get into the proper Android system menu and disable apps and so on (including telemetry). You can even activate ADB and tinker that way, though you don't need to if you just want to install a more simple (read: ad-free) home screen and turn off all the tracking garbage.
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/dopinder/
It supports LineageOS too, if you find the right one.
This is what I was looking in the thread for.
A simple launcher replacement and debloat is not enough for me to feel like I actually own a device, I still wouldn't trust it.
Yeah, fair. That's how I feel about most of my devices. If I don't have root access at a minimum I don't feel comfortable.
Even for the units you can't install a CFW on though you can still get in via ADB and exercise a lot of control. You can't run apps as root but you can disable and purge any of the even remotely undesirable apps and block any of the paths used for forced updates and the like.
I am incredibly annoyed that I tried to get one of those and actually ended up with a patched YOC (2411A).
I don't suppose anybody (or any clanker) has figured out a root exploit for those yet?
Seconded. Rocking an Onn 4K TV box that used to cost $20 when it was manufactured.
Is it possible to degoogle an android tv stick so that it's as private as an apple tv?
I'm on an Onn 4k plus with projectivy launcher which itself is so much better but also with a few remote buttons remapped, some sideloaded apps like smarttube and it's such a better experience from my old Roku.
Do you need a Google account do use this?
I couldn't do this without signing into a Google account first. Does it depend on the device or am I doing something wrong?
I have one of these in my liv8ng room and one in my office. Irs so easy to use that I gav3 one to my 75-year-ole mom snd my nephe2 with cerebral palsy. Theyre the nest bang for your buck in streaming boxes.
What launcher do you use? The regular one simply refuses to stay connected to my wifi
Projectivy Launcher is quite good. I'd also recommend these ones:
https://apt.izzysoft.de/packages/com.leanbitlab.ltvL
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.luncher.launcher
Plenty of other great launchers mentioned (Projectivy is damn good) but I thought I'd put in a vote for FLauncher. It's blood simple: here's a screen listing your apps. THE END.
You can change the background wallpaper, make different sections for different apps, hide/show specific apps and sort them as you will, but that is it. Perfect if you only plan to go back to the home menu when you're switching between apps (like me).
NVIDIA shield
Apple TV. Though I admit I'm unfamiliar with playlet
I have a pi 4 running lineageos TV and primarily using nuvio and smart tube. It's great, consistent, and for the most part just works.
Although with the current price of them it probably only makes sense if you have an extra pi laying around
I must have some sort of danger sense, I kicked my tv off my wifi yesterday.
I use an Nvidia Shield. If that breaks I'm planning on replacing it with a pi or other SBC, rockpi maybe
I've been working on a setup similar to this. I'm not sure if I'm going more this route or Plasma Bigscreen. I got a bit into it and then the decade old laptop I was repurposing started having bios issues, so now I've got to update bios to the latest version for that hardware and if that doesn't fix it, I'll harvest it for parts and build something with its corpse.
I've moved completely to Chromecast. They also have some very interesting sideloaded apps (SmartTube).
SmartTube
tempting but... https://smarttubeapp.github.io/
"My development environment was infected by unknown malicious software, as a result of which a few builds may have been affected. Once the issue was detected, I secured everything with a full disk wipe, restored a clean setup, and now all builds are scanned with VirusTotal. The F-Droid version will also be verified before release."
Get a dumb TV, a nice HDMI cable, have it hook to your PC. Watch things from your ad-free browser.
Where do you find a modern dumb TV nowadays?
I've heard the only way to get a modern one is to basically get one that's meant for commercial signage. =\
Sceptre still makes them. I bought a 50" 4K from walmart under that brand a few years ago
I bought a 32" Westinghouse dumb TV for $149 from walmart several months back. I use it in my workshop where I don't have wi-fi. I use an over-the-air antennae and wanted to just have it come on and play without having to go through menus and shit...
first i'd look into if there are any jailbreak options for the device you already own
it will be FOX ads, mostly shoveling thier propaganda at smart tv owners. Fox newscorp, and not the DISNEY owned fox(the cinema side of FOX). murdoch was pretty smart in seperating the 2 companies.
Recommend Jellyfin over Plex if you have the ability to switch.
Or if you want an instant streaming option similar to Netflix/Hulu/etc. try Nuvio instead (or Stremio). It takes some configuration but it's not difficult to figure out. I'll give you a hint: sign up for Premiumize then install these plug-ins to get yourself started: Comet + Watchly + Streaming Catalogs.
Edit: And BTW it's definitely worth it because everything is on there. And I mean everything. I have yet to find a single show or movie that wasn't immediately available to stream on Nuvio.
I tried to switch to Jellyfin a long while back but didn't get far because I couldn't get it to keep the folder-based organization structure I already had in place for my library. Is it still the case that Jellyfin doesn't allow folder-centric navigation?
I can do folders on my Jellyfin setup, seems to work. :)
I believe it's possible? It's not something I use but it could be worth looking into again if you prefer that.

The bought more ownership but they still owned a chunk of it the whole time
Plex
Plex has its own slew of issues and is known for enshittification. May I suggest Jellyfin instead?
Otherwise, listening in as well.
Jellyfin
I'd probably switch if I was the only one using Plex. I'd have to move quite a few users. I paid for lifetime long ago, so.... 🤷
always can count on a jellyfin user to shame someone for using Plex.
Just so you know there are two Fox companies. The one that purchases Roku is not the new company. Research.
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