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[–] 89 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Actually it's because C: is a happy drive and wants to show it. D: is less positive about things.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Happy drive?
    You sound like Bob Ross :)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Tilt

    S: is your silly\sarcasm drive.
    O: is for your oh-oh's.
    P: is for tongue-out or pipe smoking files.
    X: is strictly hush hush. Agent Mulder will already have access.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    At work we have the Q drive, I only admins have access to it and it has all of the programs we don't want the users running themselves like wireshark, the occasionally we need to install.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I remember seeing my first pc with two 5.25" drives. the luxury! you could have two entire data sets accessible, you could jump from one program to another without changing disks....

    then a few years later I got a 20mb hdd, and copied almost everything I owned to it - and still had 3 mb free. a: and b: were nice, but boy wow this hard drive thing was mindblowing

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    And here's me with my one terabyte drive and it's nearly full. Of what I really couldn't say, I don't feel like I have all that much saved on here, but apparently it takes up a whole terabyte.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 days ago (13 children)

    /dev/sda

    How hard was that?

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  • [–] 46 points 2 days ago (12 children)

    Don't forget /dev/mmcblk0p1 and /dev/nvme0n1p4how4fucking7long1must6these5get

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  • [–] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

    You can blame them on systemd.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    To be fair I blame everything on system d

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    What happened to systems a-b-c.. ?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    Simply lovely. There long names are for mounting since they are persistent w ross reboots.

    The short ones can change of there are no mounting options or more or fewer devices than before.

    PS: even the networking devices have this funky naming

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I get nvme# as the drive number and p# as the partition number, but I never got what n# meant.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    NVMe drives can be partitioned by the hardware.

    There could be multiple drives on a drive and n# is the hardware partition.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Namespace isn't it? Are there any reasonable use cases for it

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    That’s the name of it. 🙂 I was letting a dog outside and couldn’t remember the technical name.

    Under-provisioning the drive is the most common usage I’ve seen.

    Maybe passing it directly to a VM, but I haven’t tried that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Well, for example, you need multiple partitions on a system drive. Such as swap, boot and the main partition for the OS

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    The namespaces are generally not used for that, since partition table does the job.

    Nvme bakes in a lot of "just in case" functions that fancy storage engineers imagine a use case for that are in practice superfluous.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    When I was a wee child we had a box of floppy disks for my first computer. They were all the colors of the rainbow, 5 for each color, and my little neurodivergent self got so much satisfaction sorting them to be in order of the color wheel (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, etc) and I also loved carefully using them as a fidget toy by flipping the little metal piece that covered the disk itself back and forth repeatedly.

    I really miss floppy disks for some dumb reason. I wish they'd bring them back with the same type of technology that is used in micro SD cards, solely for the nostalgia factor.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 days ago

    Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, Witch! I was there when it was written.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago* (16 children)

    Wouldn't careful alignment be 5.25, and the click be 3.5? Or am I way off here? 5.25 are the big black actual floppy discs right? And then 3.5 or the smaller encased in harder shelled plastic with the little snappy metal sliding piece?

    Also, what is going up with the letter p in this screenshot?:

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I seem to remember a swinging arm that I would click in place after inserting a 5 and a quarter floppy. I do think the 3 and a half floppies ticked a little when you pushed them into the drive, but not nearly so much as clicking the arm in place for the larger ones.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Pretty sure the first floppies were 7", but there weren't in use for very long. But, I would agree with your assessment regarding the two sizes most of us were familiar with.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    8", not 7". Apparently, Strategic Air Command was using them to control nuclear weapon launch facilities until surprisingly recently (2019).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Thanks for the correction; admittedly, those were a little before my time, although I did see then once or twice in the wild.

    Speaking of storage technology that just won't die, I think magnetic tape backups still exist in one form or another.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Magnetic tape isn't obsolete at all. Apparently these days they're up to LTO-10, which can store 40TB per tape, and it's also the cheapest storage medium per unit capacity (albeit with an extremely high initial cost for the drive itself). The only reason people forget about it is because it isn't popular for home use.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Shouldn't data centers be doing reels of data tape then instead of taking all our forms of removable media?

    Wouldn't that make a lot more sense? 40tb reels sound a lot more effective than a 4tb HD. Probably a lot less heat too.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    But why a backslash as separator? Why ô why!

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  • [–] 23 points 2 days ago

    When they added directories to DOS, they decided that the colons used as a separator on the DEC system they were basing it on were silly, and the forward slashes used by Unix were nicer. Forward slashes were already the character used to identify something as a command line option rather than a filename on DOS, though, because the world hadn't settled on Unix's dash convention yet, and lots of existing software just checked whether an argument contained forward slashes to decide whether or not it was a filename. That software would break if paths could contain forward slashes. However, there was a tempting character on the keyboard originally used to type ∨ and ∧ before unicode that was also a slash, so they used that.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    No no, the real question is why CR LF instead of LF or CR? Why two characters for a line break motherfuckers?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    My piano also starts on C 🤔

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    There's a great Calvin's dad answer in there somewhere.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    "Ha! C used to be the first letter. Then a famous Roman emperor added A and B at the beginning because typing was too hard without them."

    "They had computers back then?"

    "Oh no, they used typewriters. But none of the oldest typewriters survived because they were made from Ea Nasir's inferior copper."

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    D: was usually a cd drive, and E: was the second cd but this time it wrote those disks.
    Then later E became D, and died such...

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    [–] 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

    And before A: and B:, we had cassette tape decks for our Commodores!

    It took 40 minutes to load a program.

    You don't know what a cassette or a Commodore is, do you? Damn kids, get off my lawn

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I had a cassette drive for my CoCo3 from RadioShack.

    I spent a weekend typing in code in BASIC from a magazine to play a shitty pacman clone, tried to save it to the tape, and forgot the first few inches on a new cassette aren't magnetic and can't save anything...

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    King’s Quest, Space Quest…

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  • [–] 48 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    All of it except the part where it implies people immediately abandoned floppies when hard drives showed up. They coexisted for quite a while, and computers would often have one hard drive and one floppy drive (so A:\ and C:\ without B:\).

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  • [–] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Also it was a lot more religious than the post implies.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    The BIOS part is not correct but that's nitpicking. Also omits the second coming of floppies through ZIP drives.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    And LS-120 drives, which were so much the second coming of floppies that they could also read regular 3.5" floppies while making an alarming screeching noise the entire time to sweeten the deal.

    ...I still have three of them someplace. I definitely have a box of LS-120 disks somewhere, too.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago

    "The children must not be shown the old gods" This is true only in the most direct way. There is the effigy known as the save icon, which is in very widespread use. Sometimes this leads to questions of "why does it look like that?" and answers of "clouds used to be plastic rectangles with a metal clicky frame you slotted into the big off-white box".

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Yes, a and b were floppy drives and are “reserved” insomuch as C:\ is the default for compatibility reasons.

    A and B were floppy

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    Remember that weird period of zip disks?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    There was a brief window of time where CD burners were new and beyond my financial reach, and so were new Zip drives, but companies were dumping Zip drives for rewritable CDs. I managed to score a free external Zip drive that was going to be trashed, and it was a godsend of an upgrade from 3.5" floppies.

    Until I got a second-hand CD-RW drive, then I dumped it too.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Yes, but they got the letter Z, obviously. For the makers spoke: I created Windows 95 and I will give you the power to map your drive letters. But behold! Thou shake only map removable drives and let the hard drives be, for these are still assigned the old way by the old system.

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  • My dad thought they were gonna be the fucking future and was trying to get everyone in the house to use it and my mom knew about the fact they can die and that she'd rather use disks.

    I liked it, it sucked when my first ever back up of all my files from the family computer was no longer accessible due to the red light of death.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    What I never understood was why eventually the B letter stopped being used even on machines that had two floppy disk drives. I remember very clearly using the second floppy on E:, F: and sometimes even D:, but I've never seen it being used as B:.

    Was it reserved to some kind of swapping system that later became irrelevant with hard disks?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago

    I think the convention was to put the fixed internal drives first because they were more unlikely to change, and then use the later letters for external swappable drives.

    In the time when the B: drive was relevant a lot of software might have had hard coded the letters, so it made sense to avoid it to preserve the compability with legacy software as more drives were added.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago

    Mostly, the part where Microsoft said children should not learn the ways of the old gods should be disregarded.

    Every child of the computer should endeavour to learn the old magicks to an extent, many abstractions lay between us and it now but the further one progresses in their studies, the more they will find the old to be a beacon and anchor guiding to them to the rightful truth they require.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    Others have answered everything, but just to confirm it: when I started secondary school they still had a room full of computers that didn't have a hard drive. They all worked off of floppy disks. During classes all of them went zugg-zugg-zugg-tsk-tsk.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Jokes on you old gods, my blu ray drive is B:

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    A: B: were for dual floppy drives. per dos manual. and fuck off with back slashes. forward slash is fs root / drives are devices under /dev.

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