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[–] 99 points 3 days ago (9 children)

A lot of stuff what billionaires are doing shouldn't be swept under personal privacy.

"Don't bug me, it's my own business how I spend my money", some would say. For random people, that's true. But when you command absurd amounts of wealth, maybe all of that stuff has consequences to the rest of the society.

We demand transparency from people who have power over our lives, and oligarchs shouldn't be an exception to that rule.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I am more afraid of the billionaires than the atomic bombs.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago

    Billionaires own the people who control the means of mass destruction: Trump who suffers from dementia and Hegseth who’s an alcoholic and a moron. They both suffer from brain-damaged levels of stupidity and can be easily goaded into a nuclear attack whenever it suits billionaires to have one.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)
  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
    1. Billionaires and Capitalism.
    2. Abrahamic religions. (no problem with Voodoo or Shinto or Sikhism or Bahai or ...) Prosperity gospel is not ok. Saying that hell is mostly filled with women and that women are less capable of civic life than men is not ok.
    3. War.
    4. Boom (for some) and Bust (some never experience the downside, some never experience the upside) cycles and economic fuckery like prices bieng too high or just volitile, many rented instead of owned across the board domisiles, ads, paid subscriptions, spam, scams, gamblified everything, climate and energy mismanagement, science and all other legitimate human needs bow to the "need" for profit and lately the "need" for aristocratic rule (Trump and Musk and Yarvin aren't the only ones who want to be kings over me), etc.
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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Bahá'i is also an Abrahamic religion, by the way. It basically splintered from Shia Islam.

    Prosperity gospel is not an original feature of Christianity nor of Islam. Rich people who've been dodging taxes would certainly populate hell as imagined in these traditions.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Bahai is an eclectic remix, redo, reframe of the old "hits". I don't consider it Abrahamic only pecause Bahaullah was inspired by Abrahamic religion. The flavor is completely different, and the behavior too. I don't see Baha'i as a threat the same way Christianity, Islam, and some conservative strains of Judaism are.

    What matters to me are not words, but function. What do their clerics preach? What do their doctrinal documents say? I judge every religion harshly. Many doctrinal statements do not pass the sniff test.

    That said, the people for whom the religions serve as cultural background, are not simply robots who implement all aspects of relidious doctrine at all times. I judge people on how they live their lives, and on what they want to do in the world as I intimately know and experience it.

    So Zohran is great, but not Islam. Talarico is great, but not Christianity. I may agree with many things Pope Leo says, but my world is better without the Catholicism. Etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Every trade that exceedes 1 Million should have one neutral agent™ that approves the trade.

    For every new Million a new agent should be around to Approved the trade.

    No Person can have the same neutral agent twice in their Trading.

    Trade volume is saved for a years and if traders exceed their Million in a years the last trade needs to be supervised

    Etc.

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  • [–] 183 points 4 days ago (1 child)
  • [–] 149 points 4 days ago (15 children)

    Generally, I am anti-doxxing... but the billionaire class at the very least deserves loud protests outside their little enclaves.

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  • [–] 63 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    They have blood on their hands. Indirectly maybe, but there is a LOT of blood. They deserve much worse than protests

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  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Agreed 100%.

    What they've done is no less criminal for being legal.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    Most of them are wealthy because they effectively mass scale doxx everyone to advertisers anyway.

    They hate shit like VPNs and places not using any linked ID info and online handles and shit. Anything providing any later of anonymity.

    Fuck these people.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    it doesn't count when you do the same thing back to someone that they're doing to you

    if they have all our data, we can have all their data

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  • [+] -7 points 3 days ago (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    Is your point supposed to be a critique of removing billionaire privacy on anti-"an eye for an eye" grounds? It's not revenge or retaliation. It's parity. If they can put us in a surveillance state, they should be spied on too. Why would we take the moral high road over the people trying to kill the planet for profit? Fuck 'em.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago

    At least in this case "doxxing" could restore an asymmetry: Billionaires own the major internet platforms, they already know a good portion about a big number of people. It's just not called doxxing.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Didn't Musk post his own phone number on the site formerly known as Twitter recently?

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    [–] 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Just go for it. Don't talk, do!

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • [–] 34 points 3 days ago

    "plan to" why plan? Just do it.

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    Dont just issue a press release saying you are planning it, just do it for effs sake.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I don't know why there aren't more hactivists. You would be hailed by the people for doing shit like this.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 days ago

    You also get quietly whisked off to a prison that isn't a prison where you are charged as a terrorist.

    I would like to see power in the hands of the people, but using technology to do it is really risky. You have to be extremely good at covering your tracks or you're fucked.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 days ago
    [–] 43 points 3 days ago* (14 children)

    I will get banned for this, perhaps: I seriously think we should be setting their houses on fire. Show them they are not welcome on this planet. Just fucking revolt against them.

    I simply do not see another way. They have all the money in the world to change public opinion and manipulate everything to their gain. We have to not play the game, ignore everything and just get rid of them without going trough the "proper means". The proper means do not work.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago

    I think someone should build a simple, relatively cheap drone with a bomb and open source the design. Make it so anyone with a 3d printer and some basic supplies can hit their property from a reasonable distance away. Make them afraid to have that wealth.

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  • At some point one would think high ranking military might break off and start forcing change, before that might happen , doing stuff like this would only allow for legal actions to be taken against people burning down a parasites 100th address. Following the rule of law is necessary if you want to keep the general population on your side, Until it isn't.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    That day may be coming, but we're not there yet.

    I've been telling people who have been criticizing America for not getting violent, that we have two Constitutional checkpoints to go through before violence becomes the appropriate tool. The first was the Midterms, which we got through in spectacular fashion, far better than I even dreamed. We proved, far beyond ANY doubt, that Dem voters have serious POWER in this country, and they are now fully mobilized like never before. Most importantly, we didn't just prove that to MAGA, we proved it to Dem voters themselves. In the future, it will be far easier to mobilize them, now that they've done it, and was such a big success that everybody was rewarded with happiness.

    Now we have to keep it together to get through the 2028 Presidential Election, where we can elect a Democratic president, and increase our majorities in Congress. Ted Cruz, for instance, is up for reelection in 2028. It will be fun to end his political career.

    If MAGA decides to create a situation in which they feel they can eliminate the election, THEN it will be time for violence.

    If we get through the election without a problem, he is almost certainly going to try to pull a Maduro, and just try to stay in office, no matter what the outcome of the election was. In that case, the violence will be directed only at the criminal who is holding the White House hostage.

    Violence is a tool, to be used in the appropriate situation. If you needed a screwdriver, you wouldn't start pounding it with a hammer. The next project is the 2028 election. We just need to stay the course, and not let them knock us off our strategy. We managed to do that for the last two years, now let's do that for the next two years, and get our country back.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

    Who do you think pays for the daily show or Last Week Tonight? The billionaires you like?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    What do either of those shows have to do with the comment you're replying to?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    That's just the most "left" entertainment that dufus could come up with.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    People around here love those shows. But they exist to influence you and are paid for by billionaires. I hope when people on here demand violence against billionaires, they understand it will be against the entertainers they so adore.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I can confidently say that anyone who would support an armed working class uprising could not care less if it would result in the cancelation of a few shows, and certainly not the shows you mentioned. I think you have created a mental image of some stereotypical "liberal/leftist" that does not actually exist in reality, and certainly does not represent the person whose comment you replied to.

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  • [–] -1 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    The minute your favorite celebrities kindly asked you to stop, your movement would die. Billionaires have control. Just imagine John Oliver pleading for the killings to come to an end, you really think people wouldn't lose their will? Who could resist those puppy eyes?

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  • [–] 1 point 16 hours ago (2 children)

    Now I think you might be a troll.

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  • [–] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    I am being serious. You lot hate the people you're supposed to hate and you love the people you're supposed to love. You aren't revolutionaries, you're tools. You can't even organize a business, much less have any hope in political change. And just as the slander machine can turn you on any politician, it can be used to turn others against you.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I thought musk already doxed himself less than a month ago when buying some Legos or something

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    This article alone will be reason enough for countless raids and stolen laptops and phones, but not from billionaires.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    If the democrat victory carries over into action, watch Delon Husk (and google, amazon, openAI etc) become a progressive faster than the blink of an eye.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I wonder what they're gonna do now, between a rock and a hard place.

    They need to remain Trump sycophants while also accounting for Democratic Congress.

    If the latter really push forward, billionaires will get into some very precarious position.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago

    Weirdest erection I've had all year.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago

    Alright just do it already you dorks. I’m waiting. It’s not like doxing these people are going to do anything and you are likely to get arrested and beaten up and tortured by police if you dare protest at their houses. Honestly if you do plan on doing something at least burn down these places and do some real damage. Break some windows and put down some tags. Make it unvaluable as possible. It’s probably the only real asset they have that can’t be easily replaced without pulling out a loan out of their insane networth anyway.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    This is vigilantism. When the official authorities don't seek justice, vigilantes often pop up. I may disagree with their methods, but I think the fault lies with these oligarchs for courting the injustice.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 days ago

    It’s encouraging vigilantism, but I wouldn’t call it vigilante work directly. I agree with the overall sentiment though: When we consider the Four Boxes of Liberty, the billionaires have already done everything they can to nullify the soap box, ballot box, and jury box. All that’s left after that is the ammo box.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago

    Courting injustice? They’re literally bribing and propagandizing to the tune of billions of dollars a year to prop up injustice in this society. In favor of the wealthy class of course.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Yes but...

    Official authorities seem not to do much, if anything at all about this problem of billionaires

    Also, if you get doxxed it's a personal attack on you for usually some shitty reason. If a billionaire gets doxxed, people finally start getting a view on everything they've been hiding.

    Imnnot crying about billionaires getting problems

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    tag em n bag em

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    "Plan to"?

    Uh yeah that's not how this stuff works. You don't announce your plans like that, you just do them.

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    Its too bad that plane that went down in Florida wasn't Elmos!

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    [–] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    These Sociopathic Oligarchs have become a major global problem, and it is only going to get worse. These people have serious mental illness, likely OCD manifesting as a financial hoarding disorder. They can't stop accumulating money, no matter how much they have, or the damage it does to society. They would literally kill millions of people if they thought it would increase their bank accounts.

    Look at the damage they've done as Billionaires, and imagine the problems they could cause as TRILLIONAIRES. They'll be able to afford armies, especially if they form alliances. Then they can create their own sovereign nation, and start really throwing their influence around.

    How could they create their own country, that's silly? Oh, I don't know, maybe buy a giant island off the coast of Albania, which has miles of bunkers reinforced to withstand a NATO attack? Maybe Ivanka knows a place like that.

    These maniacs are a ticking hydrogen bomb, and we have to do every person on this planet the favor of eliminating this existential threat to mankind.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago
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    I'm really curious how we don't know where he lives yet. I'd expect someone that rich, loud, and conspicuous would be hard to hide. I've just kind of always assumed that the home address of anyone that big in the public eye would be easy to figure out.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Some of his himes have been leaked and even made the news. But he and other billionaires have many properties all owned by LLCs, and knowing where they lay their heads any given night is difficult.

    With people as high-profile as Musk, it's even more difficult because his entourage of staff, security, etc is big enough that they need their own support. You'd think that makes it easier - just follow the line of black vehicles. But lots of the secondary support apparatus may actually be kept at a different site nearby, so the house with all the visible security may be where the support staff and mobile security/logistics team is, while Musk himself may onky have 2-3 vehicles going to his site.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    In other words, we are already forcing extremely wealthy people to go to a LOT of trouble to protect the privacy that they believe the rest of us shouldn't have. That's a lot of trouble, and a lot of expense, and a lot of inconvenience.

    Crank it WAY up, make their lives MISERABLE.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    I’m really curious how we don’t know where he lives yet.

    A of these guys own a ton of properties and only declare one of them a primary residence due tax purposes.

    If Elon lives anywhere, it's on a private jet. I doubt he spends more than ten days a year at any single building.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Since they are getting rich just because of people buying their stuff, the power is in buying. Stop buying. Watch La belle verte movie. There show how people stopped all this madness.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    Many of these people don't have fortunes from consumer goods. An awful lot of them are making money out of thin air. They create markets that rise, bubbles that grow, manipulate markets, etc., and the value of their investments go way up. No products were created, distributed, purchased. That's too much trouble. Better to just manipulate numbers on a spread sheet, and voilá, wealth out of thin air.

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  • [+] 4 points 3 days ago

    A plan is only as effective as the actions that bring it to life.
    Stop planning, and start acting.

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    Yeah sure you are. I feel like this is all just talk. These hackers who say they're gonna do something big against fascists never seem to actually go through with it.

    Instead they'll probably go after grocery store freezers and fuck up a bunch of poor people's food. Thanks a lot, jackasses...

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