They really are beating us at everything.
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Cheap GPUs when?
I'm beginning to suspect never. The industry (read nvidia) got taste for selling stuff in bulk to those who don't care about price and/or quality. They don't want to return to the world where regular people (ew) were their primary source of income. They will find new scam to use their cards on.
Never. Western capitalists will make Chinese hardware illegal before they allow cheaper goods to undercut their profits. It’s exactly what they’re doing in the auto industry, why should tech be different?
Probably not any time soon? China's buying 5090s in bulk to literally remove the chips and transplant them onto server form factor boards for AI.
The stocks crashed because there's so much competition now and nobody can expect to take the whole market. Deepseek, Qwen, GLM, Kimi are ALL way cheaper than the US counterparts and quite comparable. It's not exciting anymore. When Deepseek R1 came out, everyone thought that Deepseek was going to completely take everything over. Now pretty much everyone is getting close to Claude in performance.
Ill take two cheap gpus please
You can buy a 16gb v100 in a pcie card for under 400usd or just the gpu for 220usd, unfortunately the price jumps 3x minimum if you want a 32gb version
You can buy a 16gb v100
no thanks, I'd prefer a GPU that can actually process graphics AND DISPLAY THEM....
Do these support Optimus to redirect the video output? Could be an option if it’s cheap enough.
I guess you could buy a bc250 or a gameboy if thats important for you, but i doubt theyll show up as a result of chinas datacenter failing so youll just have to wait even more then
Oh you sweet summer child. Do you actually think the price of GPUs are going to come down?!?
That's... that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Mild discounts, yes. Cheap again? No.
Only if you're fine with writing your own drivers for Moore's Threads GPUs...
China tech stocks are back to March this year, and AI stocks are still almost half their stock index.
some context, first of all, the -40% collapse only brought the STAR50 index back to its March 2026 levels.
and the Chinese stock market is heavily moderated by the government which is very different from the US market. if the stock rallies too quickly, the government generally speaking will try to slow it down. Sometimes through explicit policies 1, sometimes through a kind of "scare tactic" 2. Conversely, when the stock drops too sharply, the government also intervenes to prop it up 3. Honestly I feel more countries should do the same.
The Chinese stock market is also much smaller relative to its GDP (101.5%) compared to the US (227%) 4. All this is to say, if you look at China and think, "huh, their AI bubble burst and they still seem to be fine?", think again. If and when the AI bubble bursts for the US, it's going to be much much worse.
US markets will halt trading for those same issues.
No! I wanna see CEOs and entire Boards jump out the window like in '29 dammit!
Point 3 is the Buffet Index. In 1929 and 2007 it was at 130%. Guess where that extra 100% comes from. AI companies and AI speculation. We are so fucked.
Much less debt and financial "engineering" in China, and much lower borrowing costs.
Was there candy inside?
No, just cockroaches
Was there candy in the cockroaches?
No, just more cockroaches
Oh dear. I guess China ain't what it used to be.
China used to be something?
So China has already gotten ahead of the US on AI...
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