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[–] 65 points 1 week ago (17 children)

People who have never experienced democracy and have only been fed lies by their authoritarian government think their country is democratic and equal. Shocker.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    One can say the same about the US... Just saying.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    To some extent... But in the USA until recently people never had reason to fear speaking out against their government.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago

    To some extent... But in the USA until recently people never had reason to fear speaking out against their government.

    Which people? The FBI killed Black Panther organizer Fred Hampton in his bed, back in the 60s.

    The Red Scare was a decade before that.

    And the back in the 1930s, The Bonus Army, a movement of World War 1 veterans demanding payment for their service from the government, was violently crushed by the united States military.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    There's also been a certain "Soviet democracy", the democracy perception of which in the polls would be sky high especially under dear Stalin and Voroshilov leading it with iron hand, and less when dissent stopped getting you executed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    Same thing with China. Dissent gets punished brutally. Young protesters are dying in camps in the thousands. The Chinese government just doesn‘t let the tanks roll in anymore. Instead they utilize mass surveillance to track down each and every protester and deport them from home. Tiananmen square massacres are happening every day behind closed doors. That‘s why the public thinks it‘s a democracy despite one party controlling everything openly, down to who may run against them in local elections. Or they‘re too afraid to say otherwise.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    And then one can think one step further and realize that western nations are not very far from similarly detecting dissenters before they do anything useful, and they don't need camps, just subtly directing them in life onto paths not harmful to the establishment and unlikely to bring offspring. Big data and social media magic.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    So then why did Russians in the same study claim abysmal democracy? Aren't they afraid of the KGB?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    The Russian psyche is one of pessimistic resignation. Its also true that Russia has never experienced free democracy. There are many who believe the fall of the USSR was a terrible thing and they blame “democracy” for their current circumstances. This is part of why Putin gets away with authoritarianism.

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