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[–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Russia is still struggling 8 months on. Ukraine is a lot more adaptable but you can't change core command and control in a week.

This is just crap.

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    [–] 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Good way for Musk to make sure there'll be a lot more competition in that sector at a rapid pace.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Other countries are accelerating plans. While I'm glad the world is ditching our tech, we need a kick in the teeth, I hate to see several competing constellations up there.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Europe have been riding the coat tails of America with space infrastructure. Are only now looking to replace GPS. ESA will hopefully learn some lessons from starlink and make them less reflective and cause less environmental damage when they fall back down.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    If I've learned anything, it's how incredibly adaptable Ukrainians are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    "To a surrounded enemy you must leave a way of escape. Show him there is a road to safety, and so create in his mind the idea that there is an alternative to death."

    The whole russian propaganda aparat is against this... fear works for their people, and it's probably the only tactic they know.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    It's insane that obscene wealth has made him an American potentate, with great influence over not only our domestic policy, but foreign as well.

    Not because Elon is strong, but because America is weak.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Between him being given massive government contracts and Melania being the first lady, I don't think America really has a problem with illegal immigrants. Just the poor illegal immigrants.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 weeks ago

    The fascist right sure are distilling a super capable super advanced foe for themselves without meaning to. I look forward to the day they find out Ukraine trained the modern allies to kick their asses in the next world war.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago

    Politics is a weird way to spell super-villian.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Recent reporting indicated Musk unilaterally made the decision to limit Starlink in Ukraine

    Starlink should be nationalized. It's too much power for a private citizen who has shown a propensity for abuse

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Starlink can easily be disrupted by a simple missile attack triggering a Kessler syndrome reaction. LEO satellites were a stupid idea.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    If so simple why not happened?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Because humanity loses access to LEO for at least a generation if that happens.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I know what Kessler syndrome is. Im saying that it's not that easy to get started especially for Russia. The us demonstrated it's capability in this respect with the DART "mission" which in my opinion was more of a military use case and something that absolutely shouldn't be funded by NASA. One would think that if it where that easy for Russia to get any advantage in this war they would have done it by now no matter the reprocussions.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    Deflecting a large, irregular, rotating mass in deep space is a pretty different mission from launching a missile at LEO targets or launching an explosive vehicle from a satellite currently in orbit. The people I know that worked DART are now working other civil space missions like Dragonfly, the mission to Titan.

    I guess they both involve orbital dynamics to calculate the rendezvous, but they're very different orbital regimes.

    Anyway, I disagree that it was military adjacent or more appropriate to be done via military funding.

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    Someone should tell the government that.

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  • [–] [S] 27 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Apparently he has citizenship of the USA and Canada as well as South Africa:

    According to Isaacson’s biography and an Esquire magazine profile of Musk, he became a US citizen in 2002

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  • [–] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    By the logic of the regime he supports, that US citizenship should be revoked, and he should be deported, because he illegally immigrated to the US.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-illegal-immigrant-abused-162201531.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/10/26/elon-musk-powerful-critic-of-illegal-immigrants-worked-illegally-in-us-at-start-of-career-report-says/

    If Trump and Elon and MAGA don't need to abide by US immigration law, I can also just say fuck no, no he is not a US Citizen, by their own logic.

    Eitherway, he definitely wasn't born in the US.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    his (former stepsister)mother/father moved to canada, because they were mad apartheid was ending in South africa.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    By that logic neither are millions of naturalized citizens...

    I imagine some truly ugly people believe that.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    Millions of naturalized citizens aren't coming here, stealing billions of dollars from our citizens, then weaponizing their positions of power to help an enemy of the state wage an imperial war against an ally while illegally pumping millions of dollars into political campaigns to curry favor that allows them to continue acting in a brazenly illegal way.

    But yeah, my stance is definitely the same as the xenophobic shit that conservatives believe.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    I wonder if this is Putin directly threatening Musk with the destruction of Starlink. Starlink is SpaceX's only profitable business. It brings in over 60% of the companies revenue. Though if Russia initiated or accelerated the Kessler syndrome, everyone would be pissed so probably a bluff...

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I’m not sure that it would be practical to take out starlink. They’re small satellites in an enormously large space. I guess we don’t know what we don’t know about space weaponry.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    If something travelling retrograde in the same plane as starlink were to fragment, it could easilly destroy thousands of satellites. Mostly temporary, since stuff at that altitude will fall to earth inside a year or so without propulsion.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Its far easier and more likely that Putin has compromat on Elon and is just telling him what to do. Its the most likely reason Trump and Elon are in lock step over the Ukrainian Starlink problems. Putin is really pressured over the recent increased range of Ukrainian attacks and wants it to stop so will risk his prime assets.

    Even trump isn't dumb enough to think the pitiful amount of fuel he buying from Putin will impact fuel prices in the US, but it does give Putin some signifcant short term funds for laundering Iranian oil.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    That would be an another incredible display of stupidity and lack of insight on Musks part. Folding to a mere threat is worse than any physical attack for starlink as a defense contractor. Russia almost certainly lacks the ability to significantly damage the constellation, while losses would be covered by insurance and other means. Forcing Putin into action would either call his bluff or show his hand. The world would see a demonstration of Russian ant satellite technology and be able to adapt. A kinetic approach would probably go Kessler syndrome and even if not, it receive very severe international condemnation and pushback from everyone with a space program including China and India. A electronic attack would get a workaround eventually and still piss off everyone who operates in that hemisphere.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

    America (the government) is siding with Russia. Americans are not.

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    I mean, I plan to vote exclusively for Democrats, but I don't think it will change much. Even if Democrats sweep, and are acting in good faith, I agree with that recent NYTimes OpEd that the Legislative Branch has been effectively kneecapped by the Executive ignoring the law, subsuming power, and being protected by the Supreme Court. And then there is actually a possibility that 2028 voters will hold the Democratic Congress responsible for the shitshow that will continue.

    The system is beyond fixing.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

    Musk made the call to limit their connection.

    Who the fuck voted for him?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    He's the CEO of the company that owns the sats. Unfortunately he can do that if he wants. I'm glad it happened. Yet more fuel for the fire to get away from American tech. We will never recover our world leadership, America's done.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Nobody cares if you as an individual didnt vote for this. The bottom line is your country is rotten and from the outside it seems as if nobody is doing anything to stop the rot.

    Maybe it isnt true, but this is what the world sees. A country rotting from the inside out and a people too meek to stop it from happening.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    if that's the case then literally every single person on this planet is a huge piece of shit.

    show me a government and I will show you corruption manifest.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    I didnt say the individual was bad. Not once. I said we still have to hold the country accountable. We dont have the luxury of evaluating every American individually.

    Im sure many people in Nazi Germany also didnt want what was happening. But that changes nothing about the country at the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    holy logical fallacy batman.

    you're either trolling me or unable to follow a logical line of reasoning that doesn't contradict itself.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Oh? Which fallacy is that? I see you are fond of using the ad hominem one.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)
    • bad reason
    • affirming the consequent
    • syllogistic fallacy
    • argumentum ad populum

    I've wasted enough time on you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago*

    Then why are you even responding? If you dont want to waste time on me just disengage. Its not hard.

    Or perhaps you feel a need to engage and are unable to stop yourself despite the fact you know it wont amount to anything but lost time? If so, you should be working on exercising your self restraint.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Trump still has an approval rating of 30%. And those mfs are in favor of everything Trump does, including siding with Russia.

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    30% don’t give a fuck and/or are easily manipulated into not voting so it doesn’t really matter. The world has long given up hope on America righting the ship until you all prove otherwise. It’s been a decade of y’all pushing the line back. Can’t imagine you are one country in 50 years.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Well apparently they fucking do and that's the problem from the start. There's no use in denying it afterwards.

    The minority 30% who are also idiots does indeed make the entire country. They chose the president, the house, the courts and allow every single law to be broken without consequences while randomly killing random people. That is USA as it is made by the 30% right fucking now.

    In what way exactly do you mean that they do not make the country? What high road are you on where you can pretend that there is anything more to it than what it is right now?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    As soon as they start making material progress, Elon yanks the rug on them.

    You really gotta wonder who is running this shit show.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    why is it odd? Putin is Trump's handler.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Freedom of association is both moral and good.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    MARK plays russian politics with PUTIN, and with turmp.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    IRIS 2 should have launched over 10 years ago. I'm certain there are people, in the various EU member intelligence agencies, that knew of Leo Hitler's intentions and strategy. His connections with Vlad should have set off the damn alarm bells.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Starshield is a separate network with additional capabilities for military use. That is what Ukraine should use for drone strikes.

    Starlink is a civilian global internet service. Should a civilian network be used for war operations?

    Musk is a malignant narcissist, but for once he was making sense.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    when Russia attacked the satellite network Ukraine was using Musk sold them Starlink because Starshield didn't exist.

    It kind of wasn't OK for them to use civil tech for war and for musk to turn it on or off when he wanted so the Pentagon put the hardware under their contract.

    I'm not sure where the current problems come from. It's still being turned off and on but now both Musk and the US government don't admit who turns it off so I'm guessing it's Israel asking the US to disrupt Europe.

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