They searched for four or five hours and seized 17 items, including phones, notebooks, a Somali language children’s book and a vintage camera that her husband had received as a gift, she said.
A children’s book, really?
They searched for four or five hours and seized 17 items, including phones, notebooks, a Somali language children’s book and a vintage camera that her husband had received as a gift, she said.
A children’s book, really?
So it's never a great day when a woman duly elected into office has to behave like a domestic violence victim because of the fascist actions perpetrated by the very government she works with.
Smart move. The next raid is going to do more than just scare her.
For clarity, I'm on her side. She shouldn't have to move. But reality being what it is, it's the most prudent choice.
You know if they had anything it would be given out with their marching orders a long time ago. Probably a smart move not to go back into a house that's probably bugged and under constant surveillance
I wonder if military base housing would be safer or less safe for her. Starting to wonder when the career military folks who spent their lives and watched friends sacrifice theirs to fight the ongoing cold war conflicts are going to realize Donnie has betrayed them.
Safe from the FBI? No difference. It would be one small speedbump for them to coordinate with base security to perform the raid.
They betrayed us before Donnie ever had the chance. They happily signed up to go abroad and spread the idea that America is fueled by nothing but oil and hate. I would love to see military recruitment take a sharp dive when we declare nonsensical wars or "military operations" à la Russia, but it never does. The second they signed up to be an international symbol of how little Americans care about anyone but ourselves they planted their flag on Trumps side, even before he stood there.
The military is full of conservatives, but even those that claim not to be gladly work shoulder to shoulder with people who wake up excited to do war crimes. They're not going to do anything because they either support this or never cared in the first place.
Maybe if it was the "state guard" or militia in a blue state (yes, they actually exist, most of them just aren't active). I wouldn't trust the feds at all, and that includes the military.
Not sure what that's going to gain her... Though I believe having a bunch of FBI Peckerwoods roaming through her home is very violating...
Living in a home that isn't bugged.
This was my first thought as well. I wouldn't trust my furniture or really anything either, though. Shit could be as small as a crumb with tech these days
I'm reminded of that X-Files episode where Mulder tears his entire apartment to shreds and finds one tiny bug inside his electrical outlet by the window.
We really have no idea just how camouflaged or small these things can be nowadays.
The really fun ones are when they don't have any physical bug at all, like laser microphones, or using microwave imaging (EM, not the appliance) to watch people through the wall. There are x-ray systems entirely contained in the back of a box truck, too.
Very good point... But they'll just raid that one too...
Will they? It's important to remember, the admin are basically influencers. They think in news cycles, and are extremely sensitive to the reaction they're getting
They'll might push the legal side further if they don't get a big reaction... Steve Miller is a sick fuck and his nipples get hard deporting anyone, especially if it's cruel. But after the failed ice invasion, Trump and Co aren't letting him lead anything high profile
As this drops out of the news cycle, they're going to move onto the next performative vice signal. Trump will get bored, and this will go way on the back burner. The Trump sycophants will look for the next thing to get Grandpa to care about them for a minute, and the people with political ambitions behind Trump won't touch this with a 10 foot pole if Trump isn't spearheading it
I highly doubt they'll keep up a police harassment campaign against Omar, because that's just not how they function. The leadership are literally television people, and it wouldn't make for good content
It'll get her an address fewer people know.
Yeah this has to be part of it. A raid like this isn't just a raid, it also signals that any protection of her by the law from others has been withdrawn. So any asshole with a gun could (and according to the stale Cheeto should) cause her problems. Being effectively doxxed by the government isn't a great position from an opsec standpoint.
Move to Canada or EU 🙃
She's a congresswomen. She can't leave, we could do without a lot of Congress members, but we do need her specifically
She actually gives a shit about her constituents and real problems, as opposed to many on the hill who actually seem to hate their constituents and do not give a fraction of a damn whether people can eat, for example, or have clean water to drink.
Yeah she's also a fucking badass.
We need her specifically for sure.
Probably a good idea also because I wouldn't trust any longer that the DHS or FBI wouldn't plant listening devices during the raid, based on some unconstitutional legal theory in a memo written by a first year MAGA law student using ChatGPT.
A big chunk of this administration openly worships Richard Nixon and they're not terribly creative, of course they're planting listening devices everywhere
Yep, and if watching "doge" was any indication, the younger and the dumber and the less qualified and less experienced the person, the more authority they will give them.
Also once a trumplet gets inside, the effluvia is impossible to expunge.
That is especially important for any ladies reading this.
I would definitely trust that the will have planted listening devices, or other mechanisms for collecting data.
What even would a search be good for? Lets just play with the scenario here, and assume they have good intentions. They don't, but now we're in make-believe-land for a second. The dipsshits think she did something wrong years ago filing paperwork wrong or whatever the excuse is. Who would keep the proof of their wrongdoings for years afterwards? "I better save these documents forever, that could undeniably get me deported due to my wrongdoings".
Even under the most generous of circumstances, raiding her home makes no sense.
I think it's worse than that. She immigrated to the USA at 12 and naturalized at 17. She doesn't have any reason to be searched under the pre-tenses they've given. She was a minor when she immigrated and a minor when she was naturalized.
They want to: 1) Intimidate her and 2) Find some unrelated "gotcha" to remove her from Congress.
They are currently looking into such a gotcha. One of the avenues is that they want to find some sort of criminal conspiracy in her father's status, revoke it posthumasly, then strip her citizenship over a technicality.
Then she’s not eligible for congress again until she’s been a citizen for 7 years. Assuming they don’t immediately send her to some unrelated country the minute it’s been stripped.
I hope the Dems win, and have the balls to actually stop this shit. Or we’re all even more fucked than now.
LegalEagle has a pretty good video about the charges. They are batshit. https://youtu.be/3zVpaHS6YD8
The conspiracy theory is that she was 18 when her father was naturalized and he lied about her age. He claimed she was 17 so she would also get citizenship. If they can prove she was 18 she would lose her citizenship. My guess is they were looking for some birth certificate or other documents that would show her "true" age.
It makes no sense because they don't have good intentions. If you assume they have bad intentions, then the search is obviously part of their method of intimidation and harassment of a political opponent and makes perfect sense from their twisted and disgusting perspective.
Lets just play with the scenario here, and assume they have good intentions. They don’t, but now we’re in make-believe-land for a second.
It makes no sense because they don’t have good intentions.
Why is it so hard for people to go along with a hypothetical?
Conservatives need to be removed from our country. Every. Single. One.
It would REALLY behoove the citizens that we reminds them that liberals have weapons too, we need more Panthers standing around casually and armed.
MAGA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization (by their own admission), and a serious, ongoing, enthusiastic National Security Threat, with a record of violence and treason. As such, they can be prohibited from existing without violating the 1st Amendment.
Further, those who participated in the January 6 Insurrection, are prohibited from holding office per the 14th Amendment/Section 3. That would include anyone who has ever claimed the 2020 election was stolen, since that was the premise of the Insurrection.
Therefore, all those MAGA elected officials must resign their posts, and they can't be replaced by anyone who has ever shown loyalty to MAGA. A new conservative movent will have to begin, one without any connection to MAGA or the Insurrection, and a strong party commitment to avoid MAGA tenets. Good luck with that. We will be busy for the next half century, forcing the right to behave themselves like actual citizens, instead of pirates.
Id be worried they tried to bug her place as well
We are all already bugged.
Sure but at least I know the bugs. I throw my phone in the closet and unplug the Ethernet cable. My car is stupid so no problem there.
If they really want you can detect audio through walls and window vibration and some keyboard and computer activity from power line.
I'm aware but there are still ways to if not counter then dilute the ability for said connection, thick enough curtains for example or even a battery powered surge protector for example. But rarely are such things needed, you've basically got to get to Soviet vs US levels of bullshit spycraft to do that. Mind you Ilhan Omar should probably be factoring that in but it's probably not priority.
Your TV is always listening.
I mean that was the point. It was obviously for intimidation and it worked. So... Mission accomplished....
I would worry they bugged my home if I was her. I'm not sure the move is over intimidation, but lack of trust/security in the current place.
Yup, this current administration would 100% take a page out of Nixon’s playbook and plant listening devices everywhere.
Why not both?
I don’t see how it’s not intimidation as a main point. She was granted citizenship at 17. Even if we suppose the claims true, she was not an adult: any mistakes would be on her parents
I mean, the assault on her citizenship is an intimidation tactic, I'm just saying her moving isn't necessarily her giving into the intimidation. It doesn't sound like shes backing down from the fight in any meaningful way, so moving seems more about control than anything else.
They're trying to argue that her father (deceased) committed immigration fraud by misstating her age, making his citizenship invalid, and therefore hers also, as it resulted from his fraud. It's an absolutely idiotic argument for many reasons, and would never stand up in court, which leaves intimidation as the main point.
Right, she shouldve stayed and remained in fear of her home being invaded again. Or firebombed by brainwashed MAGA cunts.
That was only one of the goals. They really do want to find a way to arrest or deport her.
Not just her. It starts with the immigrants...
Technically I think the rules say that if you make the tiniest error it could invalidate it. The SCOTUS rulings don't say that but if sent to them now they could change that. That's usually based on discretion and a judges opinion, why having fascist toadies in all the steps is a big deal. There's multiple steps with different judges having opportunity to pause it, so this probably won't happen. But it's enough to wreck a regular person's life even without final denaturalization.
I'm worried that this is just them testing how far they can go.
January really worries me.
They know that if they lose power in 2029, they are all going to prison. Possibly worse, for some. So they can't allow an election in 2028. In order to do that, they will have to employ serious violence against the American people.
They will either crush us, or they will be crushed. MAGA understands this far better than Democrats, and they are prepared to do whatever it takes.
Going to prison... Ha ha fat chance that will happen. We all hope that will happen but I feel like that is a pipe dream in this country. There won't be any accountability or consequences for these people. Love your optimism though.
In 1860 the Confederacy seceded from the United States and unequivocally committed sedition and high treason.
In 1865 after the U.S. Civil War, the U.S. government largely paroled, pardoned, and politically restricted Confederate officers rather than executing them or holding mass treason trials.
I’m of two minds.
My heart says we tried going easy on these people once, and now their ancestors are doing it again, so maybe we will come down harder this time…
My mind says our economy and government are far more corrupt than they were back then, and our citizenry are far more comfortable and entertained.
We should make an example of these fucking traitors… but will we?
That depends on what the people with all the money decide.
Nah, the democrats will come out with some shit about how they're not going to prosecute anyone from the previous administration in the name of reconciliation and bringing the country together, or some such bullshit. Wouldn't be the first time.
As the others have said…who’s gunna put them in prison? If people actually get out there and vote progressive then MAYBE, but as it stands the GOP is just chasing power for the power, that’s all.
Trump is literally guilty of dozens of felonies and a judge said “yea but he wants to hold the highest office in the land so I’m gunna let him go.”
Democrats are half the Epstein files. Nobody is going to prison.
The moment Greens or PSL start winning is the moment elections will actually get rigged.
I am guessing that she would end up living in NYC or California, strongholds against the MAGA menace. That way, when the straw finally shatters the camel's back, Omar will be able to continue being a leader. If she stayed in neutral or unfriendly territory, she could be captured or worse.
We know what ICE does to little girls and women in their "care". There is no question what they would do to her, if given the opportunity.
Here's hoping that Omar will be the Winston Churchill of our time, in the best ways.
She can't represent her constituents if she doesn't live in Minnesota. It is a stronghold of people just like her, that is why they vote her in.
She is a leader and will continue to be one but she can't be a Winston Churchill because she can't be president that can be a good thing though, a president with good ideas only stays two terms if they are lucky. She could be a senator one day and keep in power for as long as terms limits allow. Term limits she would impose on all senators and congresspeople as they should.
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