Read a review by someone, this vibed up solution isn't going to win anyone over either because it evidently sucks. It may imitate the UI more closely for what works, but not much works adequately.

Yeah but Adobe just works. Although recent versions suck hard. But there's nothing wrong with a pirated older version. As long as Adobe doesn't get any money it's fine for me.

AI is just pure evil, which is harmful to the environment, water and power supply, and helps tech giants become even more powerful. Zero tolerance for AI.

GIMP is awful though. I havent seen the new ui yet, but the old one was unusably bad

If only there were other projects besides Gimp!

They wouldn't care about this either.

I can confirm for Microsoft. AI is pushed on us so hard that we must use it everywhere, even for those processes that can be automated with a script (I.e.deterministic).

Can confirm, at least for Adobe Acrobat.

There's an annoying popup ive had to deal with at work where it prompts to have AI summarize my document or some such. Takes up only ~5% of the viewing pane, but needs to be manually exited out of for EVERY document opened.

Lemme be the first to say fuck Adobe and I've been sailing the high seas for their products since CS4, and it pains me to say this but Krita and GIMP have a long way to go before they can match the range of functionality on Photoshop.

I genuinely really hope an open source project comes along to blow Photoshop out of the water but as someone who has been using it for 24 years, no one else is quite there yet.

This is ArtCraft we're talking about, right? The "Adobe" thing is just marketing. It's just a bunch of AI tools sewn together.

Most certainly the latter but if it's used for open source then in not too mad about it

Edit. I also won't be angry if AI eventually cures cancer. I'll celebrate.

Which model are they using in their product, how do we know it's stolen?

I continue to reject ownership. But the reactionary creep you describe existed before LLMs. It was often framed around discussing things like Spotify and piracy.

There are several rightwing thought patterns which "drifted" into leftwing spaces in the past 10 years especially. I see it as people who has some reactionary tendencies seeing Trump and thinking " well I don't like that" and seeking out alternative spaces. But they didn't purge themselves of their reactionary tendencies first. They didn't do any introspection.

So we have a few of these. Private property being one. A weird, anti sexuality is another. Being pro genocide if it's their preferred team doing it. I can go on.

If I did download a car, which I would, I would also seed said car.

If you're advocating on the behalf of the vibe coded adobe alternatives, you're essentially saying "I support stealing from everyone". Yes, I hate adobe, I say eat the rich, but dont exploit the poor in the meantime

I'm not saying adobe is good, I'm saying this adobe alternative is also bad. Like I guess photocraft and its suite is a lesser evil, but you can't say this project is by and for the people when its, again, built by stolen works

It’s not 🖤

Yeah, go against adobe, I support you, but stay with the people. Dont use the big tech's stealing machine. Dont incentivize big tech's current fascist push of a product. AI is bad in so many ways, environmentally, ethically; taking away real people's work, stealing other people's work.

If you want to use this AI generated alternative of adobe because adobe is horrible, then I understand you, and that's fine, if you remember that this isn't perfect either.

This is a lesser evil, and we should seek out alternatives still. Hope there's someone who isn't discouraged by this project as its now been praised by literally everyone

That's basically what AI is best at: incorporating lots and lots of data points (every single pixel on an image, many trillions of pixels on previous images used to train the model) to determine the best answer to a question with clear definitions of what is better or worse on a single-dimensional quality axis that most people would agree on. In this case, whether a de-noised photo looks good and accurately represents the image that could have been captured of the exact same scene using more light or a better sensor or whatever.

It's generative AI where things fall apart. The analogy I always use is that these math techniques are great for inferring what is between pixels in a low res image, but starts going off the rails when it starts guessing what's beyond the edges of the image. These AI algorithms are just math, and math with this many data points needs to start considering the limitations described by chaos theory (in the mathematical sense).

I never understood when people say gimp is an alternative to Photoshop. Gimp is closer to MS paint than Photoshop.

Krita > Gimp

Also Inkscape > Illustrator but no one ever talks about this

The models themselves were built unethically; you self hosting it locally is the least of my concerns.