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[–] 207 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

A real American Hero. Very appropriate name lol

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  • [–] 180 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

    The Underground Railroad was also illegal. But we obviously celebrate it today.

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    At least when I was a kid in Seattle we were taught about it in very positive (if somewhat sanitized) terms. I'd expect the Confederate states to be less excited about it.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Grew up in Alabama and was taught about the underground railroad in a positive way.

    Despite what you hear, it's not still the 1860s here

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago

    It's not that long ago that "the War of Northern Aggression" was a thing, and there's plenty of people alive that physically fought against the Civil Rights Movement. We aren't nearly far enough away from slavery for me to give The South the benefit of the doubt.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Despite what you hear, in your own specific town, in your own specific school, you are a sample size of one - You can't just blanket claim that the American south has meaningfully progressed on behalf of all the fervent majority trump supporting states.

    Also, "taught... In a positive way" is an extremely subjective assessment considering both the content itself and your recalling it from long memory. Many of us also thought we had the real version or the "right" version until we tried to actively learn the objective truth.

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  • [–] 146 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    "What are you in for?"

    "Human decency and compassion"

    "Yeah, that'll do it"

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  • [–] 143 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    Hope this good hearted lassie gets some local support and legal representation.

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  • [–] 56 points 4 weeks ago* (3 children)

    Legal support, sure. But in addition to being prosecuted, she was also fired:

    Trinity Health fired Freeman and has refused to make any public statement on the events of May 28. [...] This non-profit is the sixth largest U.S. hospital system, with 125,000 employees, and one of several Catholic Church affiliated systems that operate dozens of hospitals across broad swathes of the country.

    So this aspect isn’t just legal, or local.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    Having previously worked for the "Catholic" hospital system Ascension, FUCK Catholic hospital systems. We used to be a local system (several hospitals in one city) that provided top-notch, academic, and ethical care. The nuns would walk around and hold motherfuckers accountable. I watched everything degrade quickly after Ascension took over. The nuns left, and slowly everyone in leadership, who used to be experienced doctors, nurses, and social workers, were replaced by people whose only experience was in business.

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  • [–] 117 points 4 weeks ago* (22 children)

    We need more people like Chloe Freeman.

    Freeman’s employer did not see it this way. When police questioned her (thus collaborating with ICE), she openly said that she disagreed with ICE separating immigrants from their families. Trinity Health fired Freeman and has refused to make any public statement on the events of May 28. It is criminal that this and other hospital systems allow ICE and CBP agents to enter medical buildings.

    Luigi death stare

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  • [+] -20 points 4 weeks ago* (21 children)

    The problem is that it's actually, literally criminal for them to deny entrance to the pigs.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 child)

    disagree, its actually literally not criminal. They dont get to just barge onto private property and do whatever they want. They need a warrant. And no one is required to help them in any way. Their mission is their problem, not anyone elses in a private healthcare setting. They can wait in the waiting room with their thumbs up their asses like everyone else.

    This is a catholic hospital. Shame on the catholic church for collaborating with fascism. again.

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  • [–] 42 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

    Ohh! I love it when we LARP that we have some sort of legitimate legal / justice system!

    We have an enforcement arm for the parasitic pedophile rapist class.

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  • [+] -28 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

    I'm an anarchist, brainlet, I just think it's embarrassing to try and get mad at the hospital about it.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 weeks ago* (6 children)

    You're just flat wrong though - the police do not have the right to enter a hospital beyond the public sections (generally, the waiting rooms) without a warrant or permission from the hospital. The hospital in this case gave the police that permission, and unless a statute exists in Michigan specifically allowing this (if one exists I haven't found it), they are absolutely at fault for doing so.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Wrong. That's why the guy got away and she was able to assist him in the first place, specifically because they weren't barging into operation areas.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    My goodness, am I really?

    ICE agents accompanied him into the hospital but did not thoroughly guard him at all times. [...] Then, Chloe Freeman, a Registered Nurse working her shift, entered the CT room, spoke with O.B.P., and helped him walk through several doors, exit the hospital, and walk out free. He has not been recaptured. ^(emphasis^ ^mine)^

    Oh - I'm terribly sorry, but you appear to be mistaken. ICE were allowed into the hospital, and as written did not accompany him into the radiology room (since personnel generally do not stand around CT scanners due to the radiation hazard this makes sense). So the hospital does therefore seem to have been at fault for allowing them to accompany the patient - but thank you for looking out for accuracy in comment sections!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm confused by the whole "fault" thing. I EMT'd for about a decade, and there were times we had police escorts, and they'd absolutely come all the way in and stay with the patient the whole time. Just my experience, and maybe I'm confused by the point you're making.

    That being said, the hospital is private property. The hospital presumably has an understanding, and it may be written and memorialized in some sort of agreement, that cops are welcome on the property, in the same way just about anyplace that exists in society does. Maybe not a private residence, but anywhere public may go.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Ah sorry for not being clearer. The "fault" is not liability or similar but social falt; complicity. The casual or formal arrangement with the police allowed the persecution of this nurse.

    Yes cops are often allowed in (elsewhere I list off some of the various situations I've seen for allowing police non-warranted entry in these sorts of arrangements) but it's almost never blanket permission, as that leaves the hospital legally open for all kinds of tedious lawyer shit (lots and lots of hippa mostly) and the more permissive agreements generally still have stipulations about medical staff assent. However they are still required to have a warrant if that permission agreement isn't in place to access any non-public ("anywhere you'd need a vistor badge for" is a helpful way to think of it, even if the badge itself isn't required. The definition of what is considered public/private is quite fascinating if you're a huge boring asshole (like me) - for example in some jurisdictions, separate warrants are required to access the private hospital areas and patient treatment areas / rooms.

    (Sorry for the nerd ramble, I was recently on a project collecting and collating these agreements so I have Read. So. Many.)

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Anarchists don’t bow to authority, poser.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Pragmatic ones pick their battles instead of chasing martyrdom at the first opportunity.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yep, and it's not even about picking battles or rEjEcTiNg aUtHoRiTy it's about not expecting a fucking hospital to lead the initial charge of the revolution.

    Lemmy loves to shitpost about anarchism but I don't hear about any CEOs getting fragged on a weekly basis yet these lazy fucks think a corporate hospital admin team is supposed to hold the door.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    The vast majority of hospitals in the US do not allow police entry without a warrant, safety concern or an emergent situation (or a procedural reason - victim interviews and similar are sometimes done in hospital, as well as supervision of physical evidence collection (or the actual collection itself if the hospital doesn't have a certified forensic examiner (or legal/jurisdictional equivalent) on staff)), why are you just making stuff up you clearly don't know about dude?

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  • [–] 48 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Freeman’s employer did not see it this way. When police questioned her (thus collaborating with ICE), she openly said that she disagreed with ICE separating immigrants from their families. Trinity Health fired Freeman and has refused to make any public statement on the events of May 28.

    Questioned by the police? It's time to shut the fuck up

    Good on her though

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  • [–] 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    She is now permanently on the right side of history with women like Irena Sendler, Corrie Ten Boom and many others who resisted nazis to help save people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrie_ten_Boom

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  • [–] 44 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Hopefully there's at least one person on the jury who knows about jury nullification

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago

    It's not the public's job to aid in the arrest of people.

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    Oh joy, now we're criminally charging people for being...checks notes good people.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 weeks ago

    doing her duty saving lives.

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    clear throat

    The Freeman has done a good deed, and for that, we salute you.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago*

    She is a hero that prevented an attempted kidnapping.

    its important we call out the propaganda

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  • [–] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    With a surname like freeman this is gonna be a pr niiightmaaaare

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago

    That's a fucking hero if i've ever heard of one.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago*

    That's courage, the magas and ice are cowards. Weak people who hide behind masks and cause suffering in the world. Courage wins over the cowards.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Anyone know if there's a legal defense fund to donate to?

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    I don't know. I heard of several nurses who didn't believe in masks or vaccines in and around 2020. Demoralizing, for sure.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Nurses can be absolutely bonkers. I say this after knowing many and teaching many in my paint and sip classes. Nurses have always been the absolutely craziest people I’ve experienced.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

    My wife is in healthcare. Met many nurses. In my experience the most batshit crazy people in healthcare are psych workers, nurses and certain types of specialists eg ENT or orthopaedic.

    Edit: batshit crazy in a good way, generally.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    Oh god no. I know many amazing nurses, but there are just as many fucking terrible nurses. The older nurses I've worked with are significantly more likely to not give a fuck about their patients or colleagues, and also be extremely judgemental. This is a generalization, but based on my experience.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 weeks ago

    Almost as hot as Luigi

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  • [–] 22 points 4 weeks ago

    She better be getting the best legal representation possible.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 weeks ago

    On September 29, federal prosecutor Jerome Morgan, assisted by FBI agent Jennifer Runyan, publicly charged a Michigan nurse with assisting the escape of a man held by ICE from a hospital.

    That sure is a guy with a name and probably address.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago

    Proving once more that nurses are the true heroes of this planet.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago

    This is what you like to see, not those who he let that man shot in the neck be released into ICE

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago

    Heroes don't wear capes. They're just like all of us, but they one day... They decide to be better.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Do no harm. Do know harm.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    Seriously? The identity him as O B P?

    These fuckers.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    I read the name as Chlora Foreman and thought, ‘what an unfortunate name for a nurse.’

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  • [+] -17 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    It's not worth it to catch a charge over "fighting" the government. Gen z and millennials really are hell bent on ruining their lives over activism.

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    [–] 16 points 4 weeks ago

    Where is her go fund me

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    A true hero

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    Her surname checks out

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