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[–] 69 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use a wheelchair a lot. I used to be shy about it and try to come up with a way to have the first time someone saw me be on my feet.

Now I'm the other way around, I want prospective lovers to see me in my chair first. Learned that if they can't get past that, it's not gonna work.

I'm meeting much nicer people. And I'm actually doing better at meeting people at parties.

Crazy how being comfortable with a mobility device is more appealing than leaning on a cane with a pained expression on your face. 😲

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    Not going to lie. I would be SO attracted to that. I am so very into people that can be their genuine self without pretending to be what society expects.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You wanna live like common people do?

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    yOu LooK sO mUcH beTTeR wItHoUt MakEuP type performative nonsense

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    yOu LooK sO mUcH beTTeR wItHoUt MakEuP type performative nonsense

    Don't you DARE pretend to know me and then get offended by the things you made up.

    You need to seriously take a look at yourself in the mirror and figure out why you're acting like an ass right now.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Nothing about that comment mentioned makeup.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    Damn straight. It's the Grinch PJ's that are doing it for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    No, because they're footie pajamas. No crocs. (This time.)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    But wearing Crocs with them would make it even more cursed haha.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    good looking people look good no matter what they wear.

    Like a hot guy with a trilby hat and a Naruto tshirt can still pull game. While a ugly neckbeard in an expensive suit would still have a difficult time getting a single date.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yes, but when did she show her ugliest? Some time later, or...?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago*

    Partner: (in footie Grinch pajamas) We live in a cynical world, a cynical, cynical world, and we work in a business of tough competitors. I love you. You complete me. And if I just had...

    Me: (interrupting) Shut up. Just shut up.....You had me at footie Grinch pajamas. You had me at footie Grinch pajamas.

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    A girl did that with me once. We didn't get married, but we did have a pretty long relationship.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    I swear some women are as clueless about men as men are about women. I'm sure huge amount of this is because schools insist that sexed is gender separated.

    Why is wearing glasses and pyjamas supposed to be a turn-off?

    You know when women go on about how they have to have a different dress for every party, it is literally only women the care. Men aren't going to even notice if you're wearing the same thing two dates in a row. The catty comments come from other women. As a man I don't have nice clothes, I just have clothes. If we're going on a date I'm just going to be wearing clothes, I don't have special items that I only wear on a date so I am really not going to mind if you don't either.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I had an ex at one time who would get mad that I didn't check out other women.

    Like, she would assume I was doing it, but then when she realized I wasn't it would turn into a fight about how I'm not and every guy does.

    When I'm in a relationship I really don't have eyes for anyone else. The need to find someone just kinda turns off.

    She would also get mad and start a fight whenever I said she looked good without makeup, because I was a liar.

    After that relationship, self confidence became a huge checkbox I reviewed before entering any possible relationship.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I hate makeup.... i have told my wife for over a decade that I dont care for it and it looks worse in my opinion. She has mostly stopped wearing it or will do a small amount for big parties and thats it. She tells me to this day she doesnt believe me though and all I can say is that's super sad.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Dude no shade. But also not all dudes are the same.

    For example, I care what a girl wears. I don't care if she wears it many times, but I care if she dresses nicely and works on looking nice. Also I have multiple suits, different clothes for sports, work, camping etc.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm kind of in between you two… I find people attractive when they appear to be comfortable in their own skin. If that's in a hoodie and ripped jeans and combat boots, hell yeah. If she's a "girly girl" and you can tell she just really genuinely enjoys dolling up and having everything look on point, also hell yeah.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah but PJs are sexy. If she is comfortable wearing pyjamas around me that's great in my opinion. I'm unclear about how exactly this is supposed to be something I would be turned off by, and why that is therefore "a filter".

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    You're allowed to have preferences, but I don't understand how you're having difficulty understanding that other people can have preferences different from your own.

    I like when people dress up differently for different contexts. Pajamas can be sexy in some settings, but look sloppy in other settings. I'm not asking people to follow my preferences, but I am asking that you be open to the idea that these other preferences exist.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It could be an “empowerment” issue.

    Dresses and fancy preparation are empowering. They show that this person manages their life well and is successful. That of course all sounds positive. Only problem is, to someone struggling with that issue, it can be intimidating.

    I struggle to find a good way to express this, but guys like myself since school have grappled with a perception that women “have more social power than them”. Even if the guy isn’t a total loser with a rented home that consists of a TV and a pillow, girls are viewed as a pedestal-standing respected social icon by comparison. That’s definitely not universally actually true, but under young hormones it seems that way.

    Hence why pajamas, glasses, or to extend further: VTuber streamers that joke about failing basic life skills, or not showering that week, are often a successful endeavor. They show someone more humanized, disempowered and flawed. Question is whether a woman is okay with accepting a bit of that debasement to put someone at ease.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I want these footie grinch pajamas

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'd still go after that dork

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    We took it to the extreme. Our first date was a trip to another country with backpacks, a small tent, a bag of rice and one of those small gas stove. She cursed at me and the world on our first hiking trip, while sweating like a horse. She was in a terrible form and do not enjoy hiking trips.

    We had to shower in the lakes, and they were cold AF, so.. I did not present myself from my best side..

    We also nearly died. But, we've been together for 10+ years now.

    We stress tested the shit out of our relationship on that trip.

    After our near death experience, we settled somewhere nice, but during that night we were hit by an hurricane and my tent broke, forcing me to stay up all night, holding it together, while she slept. It was a special date.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    For a first date she willingly followed someone out of the country and into the wilderness‽ It sounds like it worked out well in the end but was she trying to end up as a missing person?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is like Should I Marry a Murderer documentary

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    “Dave was so nice, he was a 6 time widower and loved Freeform hiking. we’d always joke that Susan should stay close or else she’d become number 7. Nobody could have known what he was capable of.”

    Image of Dave water skiing suddenly inverts colors

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You two sound like a couple of fuckin maniacs, thanks for taking each other off the market for the rest of us!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Holy shit maniacs. My wifes first time meeting my family we went to meet them at a state park campsite and the cabin didnt have room for us. We slept cuddled up freezing on two camp chairs facing each other. She was a trooper and we've been married 16 years tomorrow...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That sounds so memorable. I'd rather have that than any "perfect" date.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago*

    Thanks. It was a really awesome trip, and we just got really close really early on, and we just knew at point, that we liked each other a lot. And we have some really funny and great memories from 6 days in the "wilderness".

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Sounds like something Jess in The New Girl would do.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Ah yes, glasses. I guess that’s my problem! If only I could see without them I would know this.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    There's an awful lot of comments here about women not knowing what men find attractive, for it being a post literally about a woman weeding out men by finding what they think is attractive.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    My current wife used to wear makeup and fake eyelashes and right when we started dating i told her she was only going to ruin her face with that and that it doesn't make that much of a difference.

    My wife is 11 years older than me and she occasionally puts on makeup to feel a bit better just for herself, we've been together for 6 years and married since August last year.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Oof, I don't think I'd like being told that. I don't even wear makeup now that the better Korean and mineral sunscreens are available but for decades used foundation to protect my skin and it worked. I'm with you on the eyelashes but makeup is not in any way ruinous to skin and to come out the gate with a declaration like that, I would have found it so off-putting.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    They may or may not be doing permanent damage but women do a lot of horrific things to their faces with makeup, eyebrows, makeup tattoos, and surgery.

    There is a pretty big echo chamber with fashion and it can send things off the rails fast. Same thing happens with body builders, plastic surgery aficionados, and looksmaxers and basically any group you can think of.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Sure. But plenty of women enjoy doing makeup to please themselves, and there's nothing inherently damaging in most of it, some is even made to help your skin.

    My husband likes the no makeup too, but he sure would not try to tell me it would "ruin my face". I mean - at this point he knows it doesn't as I'm holding up a lot better than he is. But regardless, it's just not really his call.

    Those eyelashes, yeah - I think they are dangerous. Also filler, Botox, not gonna do any of that, they don't look good long term and would not object to an "intervention" if I did because it's at least ruinously expensive if nothing else.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I agree that isn't the best way to phrase it and that how a person feels about how they look matters way more then someone else's opinion but we are basically saying that what women tell each other what men like and what most men actually like can be very different things.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Can I suggest onions, farting and scratching of ass too? It will weed someone out.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    She sounds like a keeper tbh

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