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[–] 185 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s an EU piracy watchlist? Did anyone submit Facebook to it?

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  • [–] 113 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yeah, the content mafia really hates everything that makes us actually own something.

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  • [–] 106 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Company happly sends media to my computer when requested.

    Company angry my computer do what I want with the media it got.

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  • [–] 160 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    They describe the tool as an application that retrieves content by parsing web page data and interacting with platform playback endpoints, with GitHub serving as the primary delivery method for its source code, pre-compiled binaries, and installation instructions.

    Omg, web browsers will be next!

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago

    Nah, bro. I'm using it to train my ai. Trust me bro.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    In Sweden you are allowed to make copies for private useage. I can record and save whatever piece of media I want, as long as I don't distribute it to other people and the material itself is not illegal (abuse material for example).

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  • [+] -12 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    The problem in cases like this is not the copying, but the ability to bypass DRM. Creating and distributing tools that can do that is illegal in the US due to the DMCA. I think there are similar laws in the EU but I'm not sure.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Bypassing copy protection is not a crime in my country. The DMCA is a joke here and TPB creators knew it. Unfortunately the media companies used their threats of sanction on Sweden if they were not persecuted. Straight up maffia tactics.

    Edit: TPB wasn't really relevant to copy protection but I brought it up because of DMCA. TPB never hosted any copyrighted content and should not have been held liable.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I grew up in a town with a huge standing weekly flea market everyone knew about where everyone knew you were buying stolen stuff, fake IDs, bootlegs, etc. The way I finally convinced my family that TPB wasn't illegal was by asking them if it was a crime to tell someone where the flea market was.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The funny part is if you could buy fake IDs then technically it was a crime to tell them where the flea market was.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Knowing where to commit a crime is not illegal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Aiding and abetting is though my dude.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Telling someone how to do a thing isn't aiding and abetting.

    If I tell you that you can kill someone by shoving them off the Brooklyn Bridge, I'm not potentially taking part in a homicide.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Actually based on how the law is written, yes you are. And also what you're saying is irrelevant because telling someone "hey go here to buy a fake ID" is absolutely aiding and abetting.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Aiding an abetting requires participation in the crime or encouragement to commit the crime to some extent. Simply saying how a crime can be committed is not aiding and abetting.

    It's very similar (and in some cases exactly the same) as being an accessory to a crime.

    If the Brady Foundation says that people are 3D printing lower receivers using design files from a specific fosscad site to create ghost guns, then someone does that in California, the Brady Foundation isn't "aiding and abetting."

    The accessory example of the above scenario would be directly telling someone exactly where and how to to get the specific parts and files they need and encouraging them to do so in a jurisdiction where it's illegal with the direct intent of having them commit a crime.

    Since the files are legal many places, as are the materials, it's almost impossible to prove a specific intent to violate the law. It's similar with TPB. MEGA got taken down because they directly hosted the files and specifically encouraged people to illegally pirate software using the site. TPB has never done either.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    You're going to get downvoted because pirates, by and large, feel entitled to other people's labor for free. I've been pirating for two+ decades and I'm fully aware that what I'm doing is wrong. It'd be great if people could stop trying to justify their actions.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I didn't make a statement on the morality of piracy, though. I only stated a fact about the DMCA and said I'm not sure what the EU situation is, hoping someone might know and add to the discussion. If people are downvoting me because they think I said piracy is bad, as you believe, then they are imagining things.

    Personally, I think piracy is totally fine most of the time. The copyright system is immoral and does much more harm than good. Case in point, downloading a video from youtube should be allowed and the DMCA is working against the interest of the average person in making it illegal.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Think of the poor billionaires!

    Piracy is morally right, we don't owe them anything.

    We see that copyright only matters to them if it is convenient, the latest example is training AI on copyrighted works without licenses. But there are many others.

    It is also ironic that copyright was originally created to protect small authors from having a big corporation steal their creation and profit from it. Which is still happening. This is also the reason why originally copyright supposed to last 14 years. Because it was thought that 14 years was long enough time to have monopoly on idea

    Only after corporations started bribing politicians they extended it to such ridiculous times and completely changed what copyright really was.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'll just go ahead and downvote you and move on. Not really interested in debating this right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    LOL, but interested enough to respond.

    You don't have time to debate, but you found time to write that comment.

    It is clear that there's no good argument about fighting for profits for the people that are stealing from us and.

    Anyone who is in California you should vote YES on proposition 40 and NO for 41 and 42 (Trojan horses that are to block 40, because they are afraid of it so much). Yes it is one time, but will open doors for a federal law in the near future.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Now can the IFPI treat genAI vendors as "commercialized piracy outlets"?

    When I first got into emulation as a very early teen, I've heard a rumor about an admin of an Amiga ROM site being shot to death for piracy. However, nothing similar comes to against those who do it on an industrial scale, specifically to destroy a portion of the human experience.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    The justice system will continue to be two-tiered until the ruling class decides that they want to stop being corrupt, sorry

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is the equivalent of calling right-clicking on a picture piracy. Utterly insane.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    There are scripts on some sites that attempt to block right-click saving, you know.

    Next up: uBlock Origin filters get called piracy

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago*

    of course they are crying about piracy again.

    the music industry cries about piracy every time their sales slump.

    Couldnt possibly be 90% of music is copy and paste slop. not to mention the rise of actual AI slop "music"

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't think these assholes understand that its a VERY useful tool for archiving the internet, which helps keep powerful people accountable. We must fight to keep this tool so that journalists and activists can keep speaking truth to power.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Man fuck them. A garden hose is a tool, just because I can choke my asshole neighbor to death with it doesn't make it a garrote.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    cassette tapes are going to melt their brains

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Wait till you learn that most European countries require you to pay a protection fee to these fuckheads every time you buy anything capable of storing data including hard drives, SD cards, blank CDs etc. just because you could maybe store pirated music on them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Man, the industry pushed so hard into cd's to get away from tape and recordable media.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    IIRC Google researchers have publicly used it for machine learning experiments. For example, for grabbing a sample video as part of some demo code.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Just so you know, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) represents around 8,000 music labels across 70 countries.

    Chucklefucks. Some unsigned artists, especially underground rappers, uploaded their tracks to Youtube, long before Facebook video and Spotify. That I also use DLP to grab very interesting videos before they can be unlisted or deleted.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    How soon before WINE is included in this?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Of course it's the music industry...

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    Can it download any of those paid movies? That might be the only thing that makes sense

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    It's not piracy anyway even if that worked as the owner isn't being deprived of what they own.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    That's not what piracy is, though. That's why piracy isn't theft.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    Piracy is an act of robbery on the high seas.

    Robbery is larceny from the person or presence of another by violence or threat.

    Larceny is the unlawful taking of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it permanently.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    In this context, we are referring to the "Copyright or patent infringement" definition, which is not theft.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    That's not directed at you specifically.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    technically it can, but not for free. if you have a subscription to access the media, the site is supported and drm-free, and you have a way to pass the account credentials to yt-dlp, it will download. if it plays inside a browser with drm disabled, yt-dlp can likely get it for you. you could download stuff from crunchyroll that way before they added drm. if it does have drm, you can still download the encrypted stream and decrypt it later with something like gpac if you have the keys, but that's a bit besides the point.

    however there's very little supported sites now that have paid subscriptions and no drm. and in neither case is yt-dlp circumventing anything, it cannot access something you had no access to in the first place.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I would expect it can as long as you can provide a cookie for a login that owns the movie. But you know what can also do that? Firefox with OBS running, it just takes the full runtime to download.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    I mean technically speaking unless you have permission of the copyright owner to download their video any tool you use to download (almost) any YouTube video would be a piracy tool.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Your web browser necessarily has to download a YouTube video in order to display it to you. It just doesn't provide an easy way for that data to be more than ephemeral.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Going to YouTube and having your browser download the video so you can watch it would be an approved way to download the video, making further copies of it more than likely not.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_shifting

    It's why DVRing is legal. This tool is no different functionally than a screen recorder pointed at the video. That's how they used to work, but that changed once TV went digital (they don't reencode, they store the pre-compressed segments.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Ok that's fun I was unaware of this term. It's kind of interesting though to apply the term to something like digital streaming media that's already, for lack of a better term, pre time-shifted.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    And here we see copyrighta blightus, the copyblight firm to the rest of us, looking to expand it's territory.

    This species is, of course, an invader to the quiet widely watched waves; an invasive element that can, and will, upset the local ecosystem.

    If you listen closely, you can hear the call of these parasites; it sounds a little like "you wouldn't steal a car".

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It would have made an interesting ST: TNG episode where the Federation orders the Enterprise to attack a planet where the National Potato Council claims there are pirates writing replicator software to distribute free food. Meanwhile, the B plot is Data struggling to manage his subscriptions to holodeck sims.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Tricky to make that work in the (moneyless) Federation. Maybe the Enterprise gives a Whateverian ship asylum against the Ferengi just inside Federation borders, and then the Nagus (Wallace Shawn's Nagus, of course, I can't imagine that Rom would do such a thing) demands that they extradite the Whateverians to face prosecution for theft. An investigation ensues, and it turns out that they didn't actually take anything physical, they just pirated a replicator pattern for the Whateva root, the root of an extinct plant which the people of Whatever III desperately need and are running out of. So now Picard has to figure out how to not cause an interplanetary patent incident and still make sure that the Whateverians get what they need.

    The B-plot is pretty solid, though. That can basically stay as-is.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Allow me to explain why piracy can’t die in a way buisness majors can understand.

    She’s gorgeous. She’s fantastic in bed. She pegs you and won’t tell anybody. You want to marry her.

    You will be subjected to nonstop crazy bullshit for the rest of your life. She’s no longer fun, just expensive. She’s abusive. Nobody is happy.

    And now she has ads.

    You drink more. You stop coming home after work until she’s asleep. You refer to local hookers by their legal first names.

    One day she throws a clot and dies. And you feel relief. The abuse, the lies, the manipulation, the pretending to be happy is finally done. You are free.

    This in an anolgy for streaming services.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    There aren’t enough bullets going through their corrupt faces, apparently.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    the same category as illegal downloading websites.

    Doesn't parse, please make it make sense.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Ridiculous horseshit, fuck these clowns.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I thought this said the International Federation of the Pornographic Industry and got really confused lmao.

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