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[–] 64 points 1 month ago

I don't get why everyone is complaining about the folded mirrors when she has pixels all over her eyes.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Looks like it might be India? It used to be that everyone had them folded in because they would get snapped off in traffic. Also the noise from horns is loud AF. Still not great, but context matters.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    What's behind me is behind me. I look only to the future.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There sure are a lot of people in this thread willing to defend driving distracted for a fuckcars thread. I honestly can’t describe how fucking sick I am of “it’s okay when I do it” entitlement and I had hoped that the people here were above that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I dont use headphones while driving but I'm not okay with whats going on in this thread. No one runs around maliciously with their mirror tucked to be an asshole.

    Instead of taking a picture of someone without their knowledge (which looks like it was taken from a car on the road funnily enough and no one is ripping on the photographer), it would have been even easier to honk and let her know her mirror is closed.

    And then taking the next step and positing it online so people could make fun of her is even worse.

    Everyone occasionally has a day. Be a human and try and treat others with the respect you would like to have too.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    There’s a number of things that I strongly believe should result in an automatic short term suspension, because the driver clearly has no fucking clue what they’re doing. Driving without lights lights off at night (I don’t give a shit about your auto lights, turn them on manually because it’s not working) and driving with folded mirrors are two of the items. Failing to clear snow off glass is another.

    Driving with two earphones in is a problem. They simply do a better job of blocking ambient sound than the car speakers. People get mad ad pedestrians or cyclists who don’t hav situational awareness because of their headphones; drivers have a greater responsibility because of the size of their vehicle.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Driving without lights lights off at night

    I had a cop cite me for turning my bright-ass bicycle light off at night while riding on a quiet, lit sidewalk at 2am.

    That is entirely different than grandma getting in a black car and driving on a pitch black night, or a white car leaving their lights off during heavy rain and doing 20 below in the left hand lane.

    driving with folded mirrors

    I have had drivers who forgot to leave room at a stoplight fold their mirror to let me and the dozen other motorcycles by at a light.

    Anything that is likely to have nuance can't have zero-tolerance policies or you're subjecting a bunch of people to disproportionate to unjust punishment.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    If you were close enough to a car on a motorcycle that they had to fold their mirror in then you were too close and there was no room.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    Its vietnam, being inches from cars and other bikes happens every single time you go somewhere, whether by bike or walking. If I had blocked everyone behind me, I would have created a dangerous situation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Usually there is enough room. The cagers are just scared I'll clip the mirror.

    Mind you I don't live in the US and the lanes are much narrower on average, also people don't have guns.

    At long light cycles I will duck and weave between lanes and around mirrors as much as necessary to reach the front. As is legal in my state.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    She's preoccupied with the thought of picking up a delicious weet cornb.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago (25 children)

    The earphones aren't a problem per se, if you listen with approrpriate sound where you can still hear an ambulance coming or a car horn. I don't think this person is doing that, but lets guve them the benefit of the doubt. But the mirrors folded is next level stupudity. There is no doubt that this person should be driving at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Aside from like an F1 race, I don’t know of a single place where it’s legal to wear headphones while operating a motor vehicle.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Its dangerous not to wear hearing protection on motorcycles over like 60mph for long rides and much shorter rides if you go slower.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    For example. Reasoning is the same that allows you to listen to the radio: as long as you can hear car horns and emergency vehicles, you can listen to whatever at whatever volume. But you can be found more at fault if you crash into something, in certain cases.

    Anyway, now you know.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    The picture literally says that you can still be fined for distracted driving…

    Also, “it doesn’t explicitly say I can’t so it must be legal” is the Donald Trump defense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yes, IF an officer determines the device distracted you. That is literally the same ruling as a car radio.

    And because you brought him up, I think the way you won't admit your error is more like him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Okay, I’ll bite… how did I make an error?

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    The folded mirrors is probably to avoid clipping stuff in tight city streets. They're probably driving slower than walking.

    This is a poor person driving. I don't see the big deal.

    I see worse luxury car drivers every day.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't quite see how a persons bank account is relevant?

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  • [+] -11 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    Wealth and entitlement isn't relevant you say?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yes in a community about the problems cars pose, in a post about a bad driver.

    I don’t quite see how a persons bank account is relevant

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    In a community about the problems that cars pose, you don't think class has any factor in this or are you just performatively against cars?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/road-rage-speeding-driving-traffic-large-expensive-cars-suv-2022-5?op=1

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1118373109

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    In a community about the problems that cars pose, we don't give people a pass for being careless simply based on how shitty their car may be.

    (Also this photo was taken in India. That woman is richer than 80% of the population based solely on the fact that she owns a car)

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That is important context.

    More like 92%.

    So those mirrors would have been literally smacking into throngs of pedestrians on all sides if they weren't folded.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago

    So those mirrors would have been literally smacking into throngs of pedestrians on all sides if they weren't folded.

    Well no. Even here in India we tend not to drive straight into throngs of pedestrians, nor do said pedestrians throng in the middle of the road. It's just flat out irresponsible to drive with folded mirrors -- even more than you'd think considering how horribly people drive/ride motorbikes here

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    This picture looks like it was taken in India.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I don't care about the earphones. May as well say the deaf can't drive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Yea, earphones aren't going to make a difference, or maybe you shouldn't drive with a radio on? Or that the sound deadening in the car doesn't already block most of the sound outside the car.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Not only is it illegal in several countries, it is also proven to negatively impact attention and reaction times.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile OP seems to be driving with their seatbelt off because it's out of focus frame left

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Side note about driver awareness: I see a lot of cars on the road with rear windows so dirty that they're virtually opaque. The cars clearly have wipers and washers. I can only assume these drivers never check their mirrors. Baffling.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    The best example of ignorance yet. Like nothing outside of their car exists!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It was a really snowy day.

    Their entire car was covered with snow, except for an eyeslit the size of a business envelope for the driver to look out of.

    Crazy people in giant metal boxes.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Years ago I used to live relatively close to a car wash. During the winter months I would pay for a monthly subscription to the car wash. On cold mornings with heavy snowfall I would clear enough of my car to see both wing mirrors, out part of the back windshield, and part of the front windshield, enough that, being very vigilant, I had a good sense of my surroundings. I’d then drive directly to the car wash, which would clear the rest of my car for me while I stayed in the nice warm car.

    I stand by this practice, but I was more attentive than usual in my driving on those mornings.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I want some of that weet corn

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What's with the sun visor? Looks like a partially deflated helium balloon to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    probably still safer than the average super insulated modern vehicle with blinding headlights, massive blind spots, and a cockpit lit up like an airport so the driver's night vision is ruined

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Do you guys remember that before Bluetooth cars, headphones were the only way to drive and take a phone call without getting a ticket? And we don't know this woman's situation, someone could have hit her car and the mirrors broke and she's on her way to the mechanic. Let's normalize not taking pictures of people without their knowledge and then making fun of them on the internet.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Do you guys remember that before Bluetooth cars, headphones were the only way to drive and take a phone call without getting a ticket

    Absolutely. Speakerphones were never a thing, and phone manufacturers never made wired accessories or aux cables to connect to your car stereo.

    Nokia 810 car phone

    Sony Ericsson car phone kit

    someone could have hit her car and the mirrors broke

    True. Broken mirrors look exactly like they've been neatly tucked in.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Are you really advocating for a world where a momentary mistake should be blasted online for strangers to mercilessly make fun of you? She isn't a public figure.

    Not everyone could afford that attachment you showed. Everyone and their brother had those wireless Bluetooth earbuds to the point that there is a whole era of movies that make fun of finance bros and their overuse. Idk why you're so upset about this but taking a wireless phone call via an earbud isn't illegal.

    I don't know her car situation, but shit happens. As a human with empathy I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Someone could have been hurt and she's on her way to the hospital and was too upset to check her mirror and was getting directions on the phone. There are just so many things that this picture could show but everyone wants to assume she's a malicious asshole. For all any of us know, this literally could be a snapshot of the worst moment of her life.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Let's be real here. She gives zero shits about anyone around her. I see it DAILY. No fucking way she's taking that to the mechanic right now. I don't care about the headphones but she does not give a fuck about anyone else

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    The car isn't the problem, the idiocy is the problem

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    That's kinda like saying guns aren't the problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    For guns, the problem is that any idiot can buy and use one pretty easily. The checks are minimal. Same as with cars. Idiot's fault either way.

    But for guns you can only get and carry one if you're a moron in america, in almost no other countries is it that easy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Was anyone unaware of that? I don't think the community name has to be "cars are bad mainly because of the shit ass culture that comes with them" to make valid points.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    FuckIdiots would be the name then

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Idiots are especially dangerous in cars.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    No distractions, I am trying to drive here!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Should have FSD on and napping!

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago

    There's no problem with driving with earphones.

    The mirrors are a problem though

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    headphones are perfectly normal

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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    Legality aside, how are headphones worse than radio? If you can hear sirens, car horns and whatever else you need, why does it matter if the music comes from a radio speaker or headphones? Keep in mind, some countries use the same reasoning for cars and bikes, and I'd rather not annoy everyone with drive-by beats.

    Also, I imagine headphones in cars is more common if you are young and your car is old.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If you can hear sirens, car horns and whatever else you need

    That "if" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. Also it's technically illegal in India, where this was taken

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Ok, when I drive with my headphones at a volume that I can still hear my bicycle chain rattling, I'm not automatically worse than someone with their car radio so loud I can hear it 100m behind them. So I don't think laws that prohibit headphones specifically are necessary, let it be managed by the same laws that bind drivers to keep their radios at a sane level.

    But point taken that some governments classify any headphones as distracting, I suspect because one can generally identify radios that are too loud, headphones that are too loud are harder for police to prove.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago

    LOL.

    There's loads of places where people drive with mirrors tucked in so motorbikes don't clip them when they drive past while you're waiting at the lights.

    Headphones? Who cares.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    POV is in a car taking a picture of someone else in a car. This is in !fuckcars@lemmy.world.

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