Yoo-fi? Yoo-ef-ee?

They shoulda made it easier to pronounce if they wanted people to call it that

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[–] 85 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You're 100% correct.

But I'm gonna keep calling it BIOS anyway.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    It does seem to serve the same purpose, an “OS” under the OS so 🤷

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I don't think the OS is the same in BIOS. It is "Basic Input Output System"

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    BIOS sounds good. It's got that cold hard logic stamped steel ring to it.

    "We've got the update the BIOS". Okay. Everyone understands that.

    The BIOS boots before the OS. Got it.

    "Make sure to configure your UEFI"

    "My what?"

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    systemctl reboot --firmware-setup

    This will cause a Linux machine to reboot directly into the UEFI. I know it's not groundbreaking but it can be really handy if you use fast-boot. At least your days of pecking the Delete key during POST will be over.

    Windows does this too, though I've forgotten the method.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    This will cause a Linux machine to reboot directly into the UEFI.

    That's weird, on my machine it reboots me directly into the BIOS.


    Sidenote: if you dualboot, I can't recommend enough setting up a desktop entry which runs this command:

    systemctl reboot --boot-loader-entry=auto-windows

    It's basically a one-click Windows launcher.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Sidenote: if you dualboot, I can't recommend enough setting up a desktop entry which runs this command:

    Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between this and GRUB?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago*

    You have to interrupt the boot process to make a selection in grub, the one-liner above makes that one-time selection for you in advance. So you can walk away and get a coffee while your computer does the OS switch.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago*

    I mean, unless you’re trying to access it at boot time. I just Ctrl+Alt+Del and hit an F button or look it up.

    Actually, your instruction complicates it. Just put it on the boot splash, ffs.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    You-ee-ef-eye

    Just pronounce each letter. Am I doing it wrong?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I do say gooey though. Because it’s easy to pronounce and has an existing English equivalent homophone.

    UEFI does not.

    I also say Wizzy Wig.

    And usually I say sequel instead of SQL. Though I think I switch back and forth with that one, probably based on context, but I can’t explain when or why now that I’m trying to think about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    The prevent pronunciation of SQL as "sequel" is probably a result of it being frequently paired with an actual word, like MySQL or PostgreSQL. Or the fact that saying "M-S-S-Q-L" is a pronunciation obstacle course.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What does lowercase have to do with anything?

    The only thing that differentiates an acronym from an initialism is if it’s easily pronounceable as a word.

    GUI is. GIF is. PDF is not. NASA is, NSA is not. SCUBA is. LASER is. FBI, ATM, URL, FYI are not.

    That’s really it. UEFI doesn’t have a real direct pronunciation to it. So it’s just U-E-F-I.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I've heard a couple people seriously pronounced URL as Earl. Everybody gave them a what the fuck look.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Those are the same people that write "squeal" queries to get results out of a database.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, that's madness. First of all it's sequel.

    Second, fun fact, it's a backronym! SQL came after a cease and desist for calling it SEQUEL, such that it could be pronounced the same.

    So yes, you can totally say Sequel instead of S-Q-L, it's even historically accurate to do so!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Everyone says gooey, nobody I know has every said Gee You Eye.

    It's like Saytah, nobody is saying Ess Ay Tee Ay

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    U-E-F-I You ain’t got no alibi You ugly Eh! Hey! You ugly!

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago

    Ideally, I pronounce it "Libreboot."

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I say "yoofee", but it hasn't mattered so far because I'm pretty sure I've never actually said it to anyone.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I work close to firmware and this is how we all say it, and we say it often. When speaking to execs it's always said by pronouncing each letter. You can watch us code shift (lingually) in meetings depending on who is asking the question.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    I think BIOS has just morphed into meaning the firmware interface, nobody calls it UEFI. Everyone does indeed just say BIOS, which is okay. You can be more specific when it matters, which is basically never in the mass market.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    Like asking for a bandaid. Everyone knows what you mean, and asking for one and getting a generic bandage isn't going to matter.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    In America. Bandaid is not a word outside there, what is it? A brand name?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yet it's named in such a way, people maybe would be able to guess what it is

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yet if you guessed bandage, that’s not an actual bandage is it? From the other comments, I’ve learned it’s a ‘plaster’ or adhesive dressing.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (25 children)

    I pronounce it the way I was taught when earning my A+ cert ten years ago, "you-fee". This is how I've always heard it pronounced by other professionals. The only time I've heard it pronounced differently is by non-professionals.

    That being said, I still use the term "BIOS" when referring to "the firmware interface" for the simple fact that if you call it a UEFI and it's a BIOS, someone will smugly correct you. Other way around, nobody bats an eye.

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    I thought about referring to her when describing the pronunciation but decided to go with something more universally understood (and I'm sure at least on person thinks it rhymes with "yuppie").

    But I do appreciate the reference.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't. Would you care to explain please? I've seen this character posted a number of times in this thread.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    The character is Yuffie Kisaragi from 'Final Fantasy VII', a JRPG game for PS1 from 1997 with astonishing staying power. I'm guessing the recent-ish quasi-remakes for PS4 have something to do with that, but FF7 has been in popular culture for the last thirty years pretty much non-stop.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

    This breaks down for professionals that are self taught though. For example, I still to this day, say in my head "F-Stab " for fstab, instead of "F-S-Tab", and various other terms I learned when i was learning linux myself when I was 13. Didn't understand at the time that it stood for filesystems table, so f-stab is how I pronounced the term in my head. In the UEFI case, I'll just pronounce each letter at a time, U-E-F-I.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Give it time. "tracert" used to be "tray-cert" in my mind for the longest.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    nginx, "ing - inks" I'm terrible at license plate puns, too.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If it helps, I worked at a BIOS company on one of the early UEFI firmwares (with Intel, who created the thing!) and we called it U-E-F-I, and same also at the major PC vendor I later worked for.

    Much later I really cringed the first time I heard someone from MS say yoo-fi, but I've had to come around 😅 So I personally blame M$!

    No worries that I'll ever fuss at you over BIOS vs UEFI unless we're dealing with a bootloader. Just make sure you have your boot order set right, and your secure boot settings the way you like (assuming UEFI), and the bootstrap fairy will bring your OS 🧡

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    meanwhile flashing the bios is still called flashing the bios

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