Slyngstad | Bluesky

TranscriptA three-panel political comic by Slyngstad highlighting the long history of political activism in music. In the foreground of all three panels, two audience members are seen talking in profile.

Panel 1:

On Stage: A modern musician holding a microphone calls out, “FREE PALESTINE!”

Foreground: One audience member complains, “UGH, WHEN DID MUSICIANS START TO BE SO POLITICAL?”

Panel 2:

On Stage: Freddie Mercury performing at the 1985 Live Aid benefit concert, with the “Live Aid” global logo in the background.

Foreground: The second audience member replies, “START?”

Panel 3:

On Stage: Folk singer Woody Guthrie playing an acoustic guitar with his iconic slogan written across it: “THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS”.

Foreground: The second audience member continues, “MAYBE YOU JUST WEREN’T LISTENING.”

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[–] 128 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Rage Against the Machine but not like in a political way or anything, just like, noises and anger and centrism

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You won't believe the amount of right wingers who believe RATM are right wing. I assume because they sound angry?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" is kind of universal, but you'd think "Some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses" would have been a hint towards which side they lean towards.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I wonder if RATM might have a claim as the most political band of all time. The only song of theirs I can think of that isn't political is Born of a Broken Man. Even the songs they covered were political.

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  • [–] 176 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    You'd have to be some kind of American Idiot to miss the messages.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The Message must have been lost on these people Born in the USA it's a shame that The Revolution Will not be Televised because it might make it more obvious, but That's Just the Way it is.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It ain't me I ain't no fortunate son...

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  • [–] 47 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    you know what I miss that we used to do a lot of?

    punching the fuck out of racist sexist piece of shit nazis.

    that should make a comeback.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    We're trying here: A friend of mine got unconsentually kissed and by a guy with a... reputation, to say the least, who's been trying to get into her pants for a while. So my roommate/her boyfriend and I of course got pissed off and were like "so when do we smack the little shit?" (FAR from his first time)

    However, victims themselves aren't aware of what happened to them. She's already starting to forget as a trauma response and very easily got gaslit by him later that it wasn't that big/deep - til her boyfriend/my roommate reminded her that yes it fucking is.

    The situation is kinda on hold, and there's of course a lot of details that make it more complicated and such, but nothing's been done because the state of the victims here are so used to such shit that when it boils over, it seems like less of a big deal than it is.

    I'm in Europe, but haven't always been and can very certainly say that where I come from, the bitch would be smacked around by the victim itself and likely socially isolated for a while, no need for help - instead of no social consequence, victim unaware of what happened to them despite having a trauma response they subjectively typically have and unsmacked

    Shit's out of whack and more often than not (about this specifically, but in general as well) feel like I'm the crazy one for seeing almost rape and saying "that bad" TT

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Oh I’ll happily do it. I grew up in a hockey family. My brothers all learned how to fight early and I learned through uhh… my own experiences with bullies. I hit one kid so hard, he told me how he was disoriented as fuck and we ended up becoming friends.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That cracks me up dude. "nice punch! We should be friends!" is a great simple story. Thanks for sharing it with us.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I really don’t like to embellish or promote violence. It was just funny the way it worked out. I was still new to the neighborhood, so the kids that lived there were essentially hazing me on the bus. The kid kept pushing me against the window, while bracing himself on the back of our seat and the one in front of us. All I remember is blacking out, punching him in the face as hard as possible, and then him trying to get me in a headlock but failing because he was so disoriented. It was wild. He tried to goad me into fighting again afterwards, but I did my best to defuse things and told him I didn’t want to fight.

    Later that day, he came over to my house, admitted that I fucked him up good, we had a laugh, and then it was all good from then on.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    This is not even a strawman. I seen people on reddit argue "art is supposed to just be fun, not push any ideologies."

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ironic, the idea that art should just be for fun is its own ideology

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I think what often gets missed is that art should be engaging. And that engagement - even negative engagement - can be fun.

    But also, politics is very engaging and often very fun (especially when you're winning).

    So, what I'm seeing isn't "Art shouldn't be political" but "Art shouldn't make me feel like I'm losing."

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Those people are embarrassing. They're probably the same people that say like "Dracula is just a story about a guy who bites people shut up about all this politics and feminism".

    Education is difficult and, in the US are least, under funded.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago

    not even an hour in before I could recomment
    art is political

    🤘rock on political musicians, 🤘rock on

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    Laughs in System of a Down

    Prison song, BYOB (bring your own bombs), BOOM, Deer Dance, PLUCK, Holy Mountains, Protect the Land … a few of which were used to directly raise funds to support victims of an Armenian genocide ..

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  • [+] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Umm like EVERY 60s song. What do they think fortunate son is about?!!! Fucking dense boomers.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    Michael Jackson is arguably the most famous musician ever, or at least VERY close and a lot of his music is explicitly political, “they don’t really care about us” comes to mind, I think “man in the mirror” also qualifies, I know other stuff he’s done definitely does too I’m just not a big MJ head, I know the guy is problematic but it’s obtuse to claim musicians are just getting political now when arguably the biggest musician of all time was very political in his own right decades ago.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago

    Agreed about They don't really care about us, but Man in the Mirror is more personal. Black or White has a certain political slant, and Earth Song has a very direct message.

    Let's look at some other musicians who might have a claim to "most famous ever": Elvis was not really political - if anything he was pro-establishment.

    Mozart and Beethoven however were very political. Beethoven scratched out the dedication to Napoleon in the Eroica when Napoleon made himself an emperor. Previously Beethoven had been a major supporter of Napoleon because he was pushing enlightenment ideals. Mozart was less directly political, but The Marriage of Figaro was very subversive at the time (which I know from the movie Amadeus, but apparently that checks out).

    The Beatles didn't start out political, but they became more so over time.

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  • [+] -26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Nobody has ever made the claim that “musicians” are just now getting political. That’s just the comic artist to make the comic.

    It’s literally the definition of a strawman argument.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Americans were literally outraged that rage against the machine gas become political. Or we're not gonna take it by twisted sisters might not be the right wing anthem they thought it was.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    "Americans" weren't surprised by that, a handful of right-wing dipshits were. Stop ascribing a monolithic opinion to a third of a billion people. It's tiresome.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Don’t have this issue as much with punk and hardcore music :P

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately, punk music does have nazi fans, hence the song Nazi Punks Fuck Off

    I knew some dudes who were big into punk and hardcore in the early ‘00s. They seemed decent at first, so I hung out with them for about a month before I figured out they were racist neo nazi shitstains. I dropped that group of friends so fucking fast.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I am aware sadly. Good thing I said “as much” because the issue still exists, just not as much.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Very true, apologies, I totally missed that

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No worries. I could have used better English but I got lazy :P

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Okay I need some help. Is there a place I can figure out precisely the boundaries of hardcore music because I've been told a few times I should do a hardcore band.

    I do blues, folk, jazz, and church music. Hardcore sounds fun but I should know what it is before I try

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    There aren't really any boundaries.

    You have: American hardcore Powerviolence Crust Euro hardcore

    And about 100 other subgenres, that have their own styles. It's mostly just energy speed and pissed off.

    For example bands like Brain Tourniquet, storm of sedition, fentanyl, candy apple, tower 7, kinetic orbital strike, kohti tuhoa, extortion, Woodstock '99, Doped Up, and my current obsession 偏執症者 (Paranoid) all fall under the Hardcore label but all sound distinct from each other.

    Edited to add links to band pages

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I'm no expert (more of a metalhead) but I don't know any of these. When talking about hardcore I'm thinking more about Sick of it All, Hatebreed, Terror, Walls of Jericho, 25 Ta Life and the like.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I know some of them, but they're not super likely to show up on hardcore discussion threads.

    Yours would. Although 25 ta life would just be Rick riding a horse memes.

    Terror is always good. Incendiary, Backtrack, Have Heart, Trap Them, Nails, Left Behind, Trapped Under Ice. But yeah, hardcore has been around long enough there's lots of different flavors and offshoots.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I apologize if my last post seemed dismissive, I'm a lifelong hardcore fan. Like old enough to buy Minor Threat out of step when it came out.

    I edited my first post to add links for context for the bands I named, if I had the time I would add hundreds more, cheers!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    No offense, I fully understand there are a lot of subgenres. I dont want to dismiss the bands you like, I was just surprised to not see what seem (to me) to be the more popular names. But that may be just be my own bubble, and should definitely not be considered an absolute reference or an attempt at gatekeeping what's "good" hardcore. Anyway, thanks for the links!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I consider that NYHC style stuff meathead macho hxc, and not fully representative of hardcore as a whole.

    Like punk there is a spectrum of sounds, scenes, and subgenres.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I heard “We Didn’t Start the Fire” today and thought “Well, that was a fucking lie.” It was a very popular song with people who just totally disregarded the sentiment entirely.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It was a very popular song with people who just totally disregarded the sentiment entirely.

    I was just thinking about how that seems to be a theme. Art has a message. People don't pick it up.

    Like, if you'll pardon a genre change, the protagonists of final fantasy 7 are literal eco terrorists who blow up an allegory for an oil plant. How many of those fans love the game and didn't give a single thought to environmentalism? Barret would disapprove

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    When I was a kid I caught it but thought “Things aren’t as bad as in the game, but if they ever are I would also go to the same lengths!” Within a few years though, it became apparent that things were pretty bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    See, it's easy. The lyrics that name foreign entities? Those are bad people. The domestic entities and events their country was involved in? Naturally-occurring events that simply happened. Just history.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Toot toot. Patta pum patta pum.

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