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[–] 71 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"In other words, we think AI should be voiced by AI - not to offend AI. This feels especially important nowadays, with AGI almost here. That's all we can say, unpacking the whole AI cultural narrative isn’t really our place."

Ah yes, of course! AI characters must be voiced by AI, or you'll hurt ChatGPT's feelings. You don't want to make ChatGPT cry!

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago

    I feel like these people insult humanity every time they figuratively 'open their mouths.'

    Also, I want to say "AGI is nowhere near" but then I realized that we really do already have software as vapid as these people are. I guess, to be fair, that looks like proper, true intelligence from the perspective of someone who has none of their own. :-\

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago
    [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    I guess they wanted people to know they were chuds by telling the one chud joke: "Are you triggered yet, wokies? Tee-hee, we're so naughty! 🤭"

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not quite sure what the fuss is about with this one - I thought it was quite a clever joke, and I don't really think there's anything distasteful about it. Still, the game is of no interest to me whatsoever.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Meh. I think it's amusing, not offensive.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    "In other words, we think AI should be voiced by AI - not to offend AI. This feels especially important nowadays, with AGI almost here. That's all we can say, unpacking the whole AI cultural narrative isn’t really our place."

    Oh come on. That's funny. Why does this author have a stick up their butt about this absolutely nothing burger? I'm actually somewhat irritated that you wasted my time with this complete non-story. At least I know about a new game, but seriously we don't need to have a post about every single thing that's posted on a gaming website, because a lot of it is just filler, like this.

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  • [+] -14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Lmao the pearl clutching is absolutely sending me. Not only is their comment hilarious, the reaction in this thread is gold, too. Never change, Lemmy weirdos.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't see where's the problem here. It's the only specific case where a TTS gives better results than a voice actor

    I didn't see any outrage for the use of a TTS for glados in portal games

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  • 61 comments in c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 63 points 2 months ago (59 children)

    In-game AI character Ms. Second is using AI generated voice. Using humans voices for AI character would be cultural appropriation.

    I feel liket they're trying to be funny, but when you're actually hurting artists the joke doesn't land. Also, the joke feels rather... right wing.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The joke is stupid, but using AI voice for AI character really just makes sense

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  • [+] -28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (54 children)
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Angry language-policing? I don't follow, sorry. Are you talking about me saying the joke felt "right-wing"?

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago

    Not you, necessarily, but the fact that this is even an issue. This whole thing is just language policing. I get it, I think it's insensitive, but I also think you have to pick your battles and jumping down people's throats like this just makes them enemies. There's plenty of people who are consciously and actively trying to make the world a worse place and not just making casual jokes without challenging their underlying assumptions.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (33 children)

    You say while literally language policing…

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (32 children)

    Good lord, this is too tedious to explain.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (31 children)

    Obviously absurd hypocrisy requires no explanation

    Although I do feel a little bit let down that I’m not gonna get another ridiculous song and dance from you

    :’(

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (30 children)
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (29 children)

    Jumping from hypocrisy right to wishful thinking… How adventurous of you

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (27 children)

    Well, this was a pretty minimal effort for me as far singing & dancing goes, so I thought you'd seen one of my more command performances to be as disappointed as you are.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (24 children)

    minimal effort

    That about sums it up, honey. Why you thought you deserved more, well… You seem to have enough of an imagination, so I will let you fill in the blanks. After all, you’ve been shooting enough of them to keep us all entertained… 💋

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    This is a hate sub. You guys are so mad at me for propsing you moderate your hate that you're switching to hating me. Pretty pathetic example of human behavior.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    I was so busy laughing at you, I hardly noticed how “mad” I was, lol

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (21 children)

    Ok, glad you're having a good time.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (20 children)

    Is throwing a tantrum when no one buys your hypocritical bullshit how you define a “good time“?

    Were you having too much of a “good time” on Reddit that you had to flee here to have more of a “good time“?

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    It's interesting how far someone will go to discipline me for suggesting they not hate.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (18 children)

    This is what you believe discipline is?

    Wow. That explains a lot. lol

    Still not sure how everyone laughing at you constitutes “hate“

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Your ignorance continues. Laughing at someone is often a hateful act, especially when done as a group. Someone just suggested I leave this group for what I said.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    There’s that “wishful thinking” I mentioned earlier, lol

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    Huh. Interesting. Maybe English isn´t your first language, but laughing AT someone is generally considered rude and an open sign of disrespect, so that's why I interpret it as hostile. Maybe a cultural difference.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (14 children)

    Right, because laughing at you is just an English thing…

    Écoutez cet imbécile ridicule 😂

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Oh, so it is hostile, but not hate? Because I kind of feel like you don´t like on me on some fundamental level, but you've said its not hate, so I find it very confusing.

    And also imbécile made it into English, so you might prefer harder-to-translate personal insults. I just started watching Lastman, so I expect I'll be picking up a few.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (12 children)

    So I did get the song and dance after all.

    ツ

    Et pourtant, il pleure toujours

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I do hate to be a disappointment. Hope you have a great day. Hopefully one day we can shit on Trump together or something.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    If you hated being a disappointment, you never would’ve come here

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    But if I lack self-awareness, it would explain it, right?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Lol, you’re so goddamn close to getting it…

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    So I propose that by attacking this guy that we are: a) creating enemies unecessarily b) making communication with corporations stiffer c) probably wasting our efforts.

    And in return, you engage with me ceaselessly over several hours while denying any feeling of hate, accusing me of lacking self-awareness and not understanding logic.

    Is that a fair summary?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    What a rich fantasy life you have. Such a shame you use it to deflect the consequences of your actions rather than for introspection or self improvement.

    At least it’s entertaining!

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I'll see you on TenForward. Kinda surprised how nasty someone who can cry over Lal can be. People contain multitudes.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    For someone who was so upset about this:

    And now you're going through the thread to find other comments you can respond to with insults.

    Now you’re stalking me in other Lemmy communities?

    Obviously, you failed to realize that it was your blatant hypocrisy that got you into this mess in the first place 😂😂😂

    Oh, and they won’t put up with your bullshit there, either, lol

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not stalking you, just wondering who I'm talking to, especially if you're like this with everyone you talk to. Lemmy's a small community, and I thought your name was familiar and I spend quite a bit of time in Ten Forward, so I was glad to see you there.

    I just wonder what I did that tripped me from being a human being to someone you need to ruthlessly attempt to destroy. It's a little odd. But it turns out we had a very pleasant exchange on the subject of human suffering there in the post I mentioned, and you here seem hellbent on perpetuating suffering upon me. It's kind of weird and sad. Anyway, I look forward to engaging with you in a different meter in the future. I hope you have a good rest of your day.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Back to that “wishful thinking” again, I see, lol.

    And I was “destroying” you, was I? Quite the compliment! 😂

    Hopefully Amnesty International can see fit to take time out of their busy schedule attending to those in Gaza and Lebanon to attend to your “suffering“ LMAO

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    As an outsider looking in who actually read the whole chain the same way I would a trainwreck...

    The abyss you stared into is genuinely starting to stare out of your eyes, holy fuck.

    Those downvote arrows raining on that other poor bastard stopped making sense over 10 replies back, and they're gonna drag you right to hell with them.

    Did you even notice when your wit turned from an irony exposing mirror and into a dagger?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Edit: I see you are all on a hate train and here is no different than reddit. Get in the way of the hate train and get plastered.

    You must be plastered if you thought you could flee Reddit and come here and get away with trying to sling this kind of bullshit without being called out on it

    If you keep smelling shit everywhere you go, check your shoes

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    You're right, it is terrible here, you should probably go somewhere else.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Well, aren´t you a profile in courage.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    You fled Reddit because they wouldn’t buy your bullshit, then came here to find out that we wouldn’t either. And now you’re throwing a tantrum about it.

    What would you know about courage?

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    And now you're going through the thread to find other comments you can respond to with insults. Amazing. If your hate boner lasts much longer, I'd consider seeing a doctor.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    If you had enough self-awareness to see a doctor, you wouldn’t be here in the first place.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Sorry, I don't see the connection?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I just saw the doctor last week, so I do have the self awareness to see a doctor.

    I'm afraid you're not making a lot of sense.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    It surprises nobody that you fail to understand what I’m saying.

    lol

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    And it's no surprise to me that the hate train continues to upvote violations of logic. It really is something to see.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    If you could see logic, you wouldn’t be here in the first place

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    1 + 1 = 2

    Edit: Yeah, got downvoted for that lol

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Uh-oh, I think I broke it, lol. The troll bot has reverted to basic arithmetic!

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    [–] 30 points 2 months ago

    nice of them to announce that the devs are fucking asshole right wing clowns up front.

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  • 15 comments in c/gaming@lemmy.zip view that post
    [–] 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Saved you a click:

    The developers describe how their game uses AI Generated Content like this:

    In-game AI character Ms. Second is using AI generated voice. Using humans voices for AI character would be cultural appropriation.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Sometimes people try to make a joke and they miss. I don’t think i would assume malice without additional red flags.

    It does raise the issue that if you want to use a synth voice for a robot, are people going to skip your game just because of the AI disclosure without reading it? I can understand why they would be nervous about it.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Update - 10:39 UTC - Gaijin replied and simply said:
    "We do not use generative AI for anything other than for Ms. Second. And even there, the choice is deliberate: we use an AI-generated voice not to cut costs, or speed up production, but because we see it as a postmodern artistic statement – an AI character quite literally speaking with an AI-generated voice"

    Update #2 - 13:04 UTC - Gaijin followed up to say:
    "In other words, we think AI should be voiced by AI - not to offend AI. This feels especially important nowadays, with AGI almost here. That's all we can say, unpacking the whole AI cultural narrative isn’t really our place."

    No, it's even stupider than a bad joke - these are roku's basilisk idiots.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    "there's no such thing as God and the devil, and you're an idiot for believing that. Now excuse me while I try to live my life under the assumption I'll either be tortured or rewarded for all eternity by a vengeful omnipotent AI."

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I am not sure I understand the negative criticism?

    The joke is that this is the one place where an AI voice makes perfect sense because the character is an artificial intelligence.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The "joke" is the "cultural appropriation" bit, which is either...

    A) A shitty joke making fun of cultural appropriation as a thing to get mad about, or...

    B) An attempt to sound "politically correct" by someone who has no fucking clue what "culturual appropriation" means (hint: you have to have a culture for it to be appropriated).

    Both make them look like assholes.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I dunno, I feel like "cultural appropriation" itself has been appropriated by people who are more against multiculturalism and mingling of ideas from many cultures than concerned about the culture losing anything. It's kinda like "woke" at this point where it doesn't really have a clear meaning but changes depending on who is using it.

    Though I also reject the idea that any person or people can "own" or monopolize ideas and styles and that there's anything wrong about others adopting them from outside their culture of origin, though they should be honest about it, like that the wood carvings they are trying to sell were mass produced in China and weren't made by natives who wouldn't back the claims about how it can improve your life even if they had made it. Also, it's different if a style is adopted just for the sake of mockery and hatred.

    Though based on the follow up messages in the OP, it looks like they are either really committed to the bit or are being serious, which is ridiculous.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Oh look someone screeching over minor inconsequential shit.

    Progressives can’t take a swing going in their direction.

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  • 5 comments in c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca view that post
    [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    Incredibly distasteful? It’s worse, it’s incredibly lame.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago

    “In other words, we think AI should be voiced by AI - not to offend AI. This feels especially important nowadays, with AGI almost here. That’s all we can say, unpacking the whole AI cultural narrative isn’t really our place.”

    Not only is their joke lame and distasteful the studio is also revealing they have no idea what they are talking about. No, AGI is not almost here. This is a bigger joke than their stupid post.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    So they used AI voice with the excuse that the character is an AI? Barely interesting.

    Using humans voices for AI character would be cultural appropriation.

    The fuck?

    In other words, we think AI should be voiced by AI - not to offend AI.

    What?

    This feels especially important nowadays, with AGI almost here.

    Goodbye.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Kinda get the feeling they used genai for more than that with the awful joke and statement about AGI being close to reality.

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