A disruptive passenger was restrained with flexible handcuffs and duct-taped to a seat as his flight was diverted to make an emergency landing in Baltimore Thursday night, photos and video from other passengers showed.

Richard Olenick and Juan Mejia were more than halfway through the flight when a man two rows behind them in the first-class section started to become belligerent, Olenick said.

A flight attendant tried to control the situation but the man got increasingly agitated, started to hit the passenger next to him and then hit a woman who tried to intervene, Olenick said.

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[–] 57 points 2 months ago (11 children)

a racist AND a homophobe! what?! but also he might end up being fined as much as 40k for assualting passengers, so that's nice.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    If he's in first class that's chump change for him. Must be nice being rich and facing no real consequences

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    In my experience almost nobody is paying for the first class seats, they’re all frequent flyers who get upgraded there because they have status with the airline they fly on lots for work/business.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    I'll occasionally spend frequently flyer miles for a business class/first class domestic ticket. Buying tickets with frequently flyer miles is a bit different than paying with dollars. When paying in dollars, most everyone's idea about the price difference between economy and first class is mostly accurate. In dollars, its double, triple, or even more for a first class ticket over economy. However with points (miles) its sometimes only 1.25x more for the first class ticket. Its not like you can spend airline miles on rent or groceries, so spending a bit more for a much more comfortable experience can be worth it. This is especially true if you only fly a few times a year and you'll have enough points re-earned by the next time you need it for a ticket.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    He'll probably enjoy being banned from at least that airline.

    And the 40k are not for assaulting passengers, that will come in top.

    Besides criminal penalties, the agency can pursue fines of more than $43,000 against any passenger who “assaults, threatens, intimidates, or interferes with airline crew members.”

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I only first class, but am not obscenely wealthy. I don't fly often, and I'm a big dude and find it more comfortable. If I'm spending 2 grand going on a vacation every 5 or 6 years, I can splurge an extra couple hundred so I don't spend the whole time dreading the trip back.

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  • [–] 98 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    If it is supposed to move and it doesn't...WD-40.

    If it moves and it's not supposed to...Duct tape.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    There is NO duct manufacturer that calls for the use of duct tape.

    It has ZERO official use.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    That’s because it was originally ‘duck’ tape, due to it being made from duck cloth. After WWII the GIs back home from the war had liked how useful it was, and so used it for general repairs, including sometimes taping up air ducts, from which it got its more commonly-known name.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I have no idea if this is true but it's inconsequential so I'm going to choose to believe it.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Did you know that it was originally a band aid for combat situations?

    Also that nowadays the industry massively prefers gaffer tape cause it can be removed without leaving a mess.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Gaffers tape is pretty much just non-water-resistant duck/t tape, you see it used a lot to hold cables down in theaters and concert venues. I’ve only ever seen aluminum foil tape used for duct joints and repair.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It has too short of a life expectancy to be used for construction.

    The are no manufacturers that call for its use...that I know of.

    It is good for holding things in place till they've been secured but don't leave it on, the sticky stuff will make a mess.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Well, the original-original duck tape, which wasn’t a sticky tape, was recommended and used a lot in construction (and shoes, and fashion) back at the turn of the last century. Duck tape, the original sticky and somewhat waterproof version, was used by the military for quick repairs during WWII. Afterwards it was often sold in stores for quick home repairs.

    But yes, especially these days and for long-term repairs, there are better options.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    From Wikipedia:

    The first material called "duck tape" was long strips of plain non-adhesive cotton duck cloth used in making shoes stronger, for decoration on clothing, and for wrapping steel cables or electrical conductors to protect them from corrosion or wear. For instance, in 1902, steel cables supporting the Manhattan Bridge were first covered in linseed oil then wrapped in duck tape before being laid in place.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's kind of like the glass vials with paper flowers in them that are sold at gas stations. Reality is they are one use crack pipes.

    Meanwhile duct tape is actually horrible for taping up the holes in ducting.. Reality is it's for restraining people.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If that’s really duct tape, I wonder how easily it comes off of those upholstered seats without ruining them.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Remember kids. If she doesnt find you handsome she should at least find you handy.

    Moves and shouldnt? Duct tape. Doesn't move and should? Wd-40

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    Absolute man-child

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago*

    And they claim that they couldn't do anything about those idiots that started preaching and singing religious nonsense, and basically holding a Christian rock concert mid flight...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    First class ain't what it used to be.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Looks like they took his Burger King crown away.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    This won’t stop until countries start punishing airlines for letting these repeat offenders onto flights in the first place

    I would bet good money that this asshole has done this before, probably many times

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    From what I know the airlines do enforce lifetime bans for things that endanger others or just plain terrify the crew.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Of course, but only actions that threaten the crew/staff. OF COURSE, they are important, but fellow passengers? The bans and what might trigger those bans should also come under strict scrutiny!

    Sadly, they do not. Airlines do absolutely not give a shit what other passengers have to put up with the whole point is to discover how much they will put up with to find out terribly. They can be treated while paying the most amount they can be charged for a ticket.

    That also needs to be regulated and stopped. “Free market capitalism” might as well be called “Vampire capitalism” and treated as such.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Airlines care a lot when they have to make an unscheduled landing due to passenger behavior.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Absolutely they've about an unscheduled stop, but let's not pretend this isn't a complex problem that is contributed to by the airlines themselves (as in Executives) squeezing every penny they can out of passengers at the expense of passengers, crew, airport staff, and more. Deregulating the airlines just made them bigger, which doesn't help them be responsive and dynamic to a societal epidemic of mental health issues. More rules, lifetime bans, fines, and doing more of the same aren't going to fix a problem that is bigger than the airlines.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

    Why are they blurring his face? Fuck that. You need to let people know who these idiots are.

    Edit: Okay. I've been properly chastised. I'm not entirely swayed, but you all have given me pause and things to think on.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Why? So people who live thousands of miles away can see a headline, dox them, then harass their family based on assumptions for years?

    You have no idea why this happened, or what the situation around it is. You have no reason to judge and punish this person.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    That's fair. But when you're arrested on suspicion of committing a crime, your identity is made public. I guess I'm more wondering why this guy's name and image are withheld in this instance.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Which is where I am and where this happened and where the article is being published, sooo.... I guess my question still stands?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Probably because the news service doesn't want to potentially get sued. The same reason they often use 'allegedly' when talking about people accused of crimes.

    Also, though they do it here in the states, it's still wrong to release the names and images of people accused of crimes. People should not have their name and face plastered across the internet merely because they've been accused. Being accused of a crime is not the same as being convicted of a crime. Why should someone have their life potentially ruined because they are accused of something. Lots of people are wrongly accused and never convicted. We should at least wait until a conviction before publishing such information.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    well we do it here in America, so you know it's the right thing to do

    ...how's that going for you these days?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    was going to reply to @exlisper@lemmy.curiana.net but figure I will to you. Last protest we had a guy drive by. park. come back and he was trying to throw another guys sign over a fence. He put hands on the other guy so I tried to pull him away. Cops actually came pretty fast I think because they kinda monitor our protest. From what the guy was screaming me and another protester were basically debating on if he was mentally ill, drunk, or both. We came to the conclusion both as he smelled of alcohol but even then some of what he said sounded more crazy than drunk. Ultimately you had us and him and a bunch of police and their vehicles so drivers by were taking a lot of pictures and I imagine it went on social media more. So the guy basically upped the visibility of our protest as far as what he accomplished. That being said I think he was mentally ill but maga seems to have a lock on that demographic here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Jaun Mejia the baseball player who pitches for the Colorado Rockies?

    Naah must be another Jaun.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Hold up. I was thought by this community to use kinesthetic tape for this...

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