1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

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[–] 242 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Why does this shit distro deserve all this funding and support? There's many better options doing a lot more for the ecosystem yet this gets the attention. It's don't understand.

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  • [–] 149 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    It uses AI to fix issues and errors. And billionaires need people to use AI as much as possible.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    to fix issues and errors

    and create more issues and errors, like executing USB device names as root.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But seriously what is the actual reason for the donation

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago*

    Bundling of their stuff into the base installation, I suppose. With simple math, if 1password gets like 33k subscription payments, that's about $100 000 already.

    Omarchy got perhaps a 100K installations just last month.

    They're buying customers and visibility with a sum that's probably pocket change for them.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 months ago

    I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they're good at keeping it "In The Family" so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It's the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    That's the thing about real world. People don't ask for permission to do things.

    If you think you can do better, who's stopping you?

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  • [–] [S] 107 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."

    I didn't know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn't many users?

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  • [–] 77 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.

    Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    It's probably not made up because 1Password is pre-installed and bound to a hotkey in Omarchy. Linux users making informed decisions about what to use for password management probably don't pick 1Password most of the time due to its terrible security record.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won't even have an ROI, but I didn't know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that's a whole other thing.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago

    That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn't just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it's product placement in return for funding.

    I'm on the fence if that's better or worse.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Terrible security record?

    Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that's just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.

    Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.

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  • [–] 94 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    "popular distribution"? Omarchy is neither of those two words, is it?

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Whatever it is, it's a stupid name, it sounds kinda like an STD.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

    • 12 mo: #21
    • 6 mo: #19
    • 3 mo: #16
    • 1 mo: #12

    Obviously growing in popularity. That's what aggressive marketing usually gets you.

    If you don't like that, perhaps consider stop talking about it, and him. Instead, every second week somebody writes an article about "DHH is fascist". What the fuck do they think the effect of those articles is?

    Are people actually so dumb that they think accusing him of fascism will make him disappear? That's like high-octane clickbait fuel.

    Same with Trump et alia. It's garmonbozia.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

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  • [–] 142 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    "popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy."

    I've literally never heard of it.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 months ago*

    It's yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.

    The fact that it's being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I've seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There's definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.

    It's just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that's been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they're familiar with Arch.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I've heard the name but have not spent the time to find out what it is. I thought it was some immutable distro. I think the same about bazzite and catchy (sp?) which are other distros I see mentioned from time to time and believe are immutable and flatpak-y and that's all I know. I realise I'm just one data point but I never see a lot about these sorts of distros in my general browsing.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Popular for Linux, not popular for Marvel movies.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It's virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It's literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.

    I'd say "what a time to be alive" to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there's probably some nefarious shit behind it.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Oh well if you've never personally heard of it, it must not be popular, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I'm not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what's up in that area.

    I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because... they're actually well-known. Meaning they've been around for years, I've used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    1Password says "Our contribution is made to the Omacom Foundation, not to an individual" but there are many instances of their VP of product praising DHH https://x.com/jmeller/status/1971530423030387081 https://x.com/jmeller/status/2094132068342964671

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  • [–] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The backlash to 1Password’s funding should have been predictable

    Managers don’t know shit

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  • [–] 173 points 2 months ago

    1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.

    Except... ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.

    Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn't.

    Art / artist.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

    Why I use KeyPass -- which is FOSS -- instead of entrusting everything to a privately-run paid website which can turn against everyone at anytime.

    edit: to that wiseacre below, do you think it's better to go back to passwords in a notepad? 🤣

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    KeePass is great, but it needs multi-user, granular permissions and conflict resolution on sync. Sharing with multiple simul users is like trying to work on stone tablets.

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  • [+] -24 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    It's funny you don't think that could happen to them too. Such confidence.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    You know keepass is a local keystore, right? There is no "them".

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  • [+] -24 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Unless you're the one literally writing the program. It is being developed by other people who at any point in time could have issues. Just saying not saying they do now but it can certainly happen.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well you better not use any software ever then, never know what 'can certainly happen'. Get a grip.

    Its GPL licensed, there'll be a dozen different forks before you know it.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago*

    The passwords are saved into a vault file. You can choose a different software that is capable of opening the vault. I use keepassXC for example. there's some variety of programs that can open this filetype, on many different platforms.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    You think if the developer bails out, the software will magically disappear from everywhere, leaving you with no way of recovery whatsoever?

    Let's say they decide to pull the plug. Everything you have that's already running will keep running. Code can be forked (in fact with keepass, it already happened). Data can be exported after the fact. Other software can actually open keepass database file.

    You really don't see the difference between this and "the server stopped sending you your own data, oops"?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    You don't auto update it, and you store the keys locally, and if you need passwords on a device you use a VPN to access them, I'm not to concerned about updating my manager I'm more concerned about my VPN 😂

    But I get what your saying.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Wasn't Omarchy literally just a couple of dotfiles for Arch and a easy Installer?

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  • [–] 67 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It is currently more than that, and it even has its own repos/mirrors, but the fact that basically every rich person is throwing money at this project should be a huge warning sign to everyone to avoid this.

    But at the end of the day, it's nothing revolutionary. It's customized Linux with a tiling window manager, all funded by billionaires and developed by a turbo racist.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Why does Omarchy even need this money when it’s run by a billionaire?

    This song have just been sent to Arch or some Linux foundations.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago

    Because there are multiple Linux options, once the commercial versions flood in, the most marketed will grab the biggest share of the uninformed populace. So obviously the billionaires want to wrestle control over it.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    How the fuck is Omarchy "popular"? I've been on Linux going on a decade, give or take, and I first knew about it when someone here in Lemmy mentioned that Dell and some other shit companies were proton a few millions on it.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's popular to a lot of the non Foss tech job devs that want to try Linux after mostly using macOS for Dev work. It comes with keybinds they are familiar woth has a pretty UI by default and is arch base. They probably work for companies that are also right wing so it's something they don't care about as much as people in alignment with the Foss ideology.

    Compared to today's mask off fascism in the states the guy behind Omarchy is pretty tame and probably less mask off evil than the people they work for

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Youtube has been feeding me Omarchy video lately, it seems like every single one I tried to watch brought up using Grok. I don't know anything about Omarchy, but it was enough to give me the feeling something wasn't right.

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