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[–] 242 points 2 months ago* (46 children)

I hope this takes off and people start using "tweet" and "twitter" again and it makes "x" completely irrelevant like his Hitler salute should have

Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I'm out

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  • [–] 170 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

    Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

    Well, they need something to pay the lawyers with once Musk takes notice.

    Edit: I've just discovered this interesting concept called "reading the article" and found out that they've already been sued, though it's still not entirely settled.

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  • [–] 119 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

    Spread the word my brother! You've got to let everyone know about this new fad!

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I read it but honestly, probably 80% of the time I do not. Because articles are very often full of pop ups and ads and tracking and paywalls, and are unnecessarily verbose (most can be summarized in 1-2 sentences), and are just republishing someone else's work while adding nothing, and simultaneously devoid of useful information or any actual sources.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Some of that can be solved with Firefox and unblock.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    100% can be solved by knowingly making a glaringly obviously false claim about the topic and someone will correct you in a dickish tone while citing the article

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  • [–] 75 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    https://twitter.now/

    vibe coded slop asking for $20 bucks to sign up.. i think I'm okay

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think I've ever seen that many em dashes ever. Not even in the most copy/paste AI slop wall of text. Holy moly.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Wow you were not kidding. Some of them are extra awkward and unnatural too, it's almost a parody of what slop text looks like.

    We believe people should have more control over what they see — and more transparency about the information in front of them.

    An early illustration of the idea — you decide how much low-trust noise reaches your feed:

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

    They probably need the money to pay for their AI-based "fact-checking":

    A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

    Using a technology that's known for making shit up, for fact-checking, is so dumb, but it will probably bring in investors because AI.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Do they expect everything posted to be just news and information that can be fact-checked? Is this AI going to fact-check my opinions and shitposts too?

    The homepage feels like AI slop too.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Are we sure it’s not mostly still bots on Twitter? I deleted my account back then and have not been back.

    At least, not willingly back, since some people still hyperlink to Twitter directly rather than just sharing screenshots of whatever the content was. So you click the text hyperlink thinking it’s to a web article, only for it to bring you to some random string of tweets visibly displayed in the least logical order.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    it cost $20 to join?! I'm out

    Yep, I can't spend the money now, which is probably true for a lot of people, and I'm definitely gonna forget this is a thing by the time it's free or I have the money, which is probably true for a lot of people.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Dude reread that post.

    “I hope this takes off and makes the Nazi platform irrelevent….but not for $20. I’m okay with Nazis for $20.”

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Same. I’m not calling you cheap. I’m pointing out that saying $20 to pop a Nazi’s balloon shouldn’t be an offensive ask.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yeah, everyone is outraged at being a product when using free services, but then also outraged at paid ones.

    I'm a bit suspicious of how they want to implement scoring, I feel like it's either going to be gamed by users or rigged by owners, but otherwise it looks fine as an idea and as a replacement for xitter

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  • [–] 359 points 2 months ago (27 children)

    Lol. It'd be hilarious if this succeeded. It was so dumb of Musk to change the name.

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  • [–] 199 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Most of what musk does is dumb.

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  • [–] 99 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    He didn't get rich from being smart.

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  • [–] 92 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    I assume he got rich how most people get rich, luck and being a sociopath.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    And also by being a vaporware scam artist. Thunderf00t on YouTube has a whole collection of videos showcasing Musk's whole repertoire of bullshit.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    yea..... that's pretty much all Thunderfoot posts about nowadays.... he hella fell off, for multiple reasons. But like, a decade ago he used to talk about scam kickstarters, atheism, interesting science topics, etc. And then in those debunking science videos he would bring the math and receipts that made it fun to watch... But then in the past 5 years it's just been Elon... nearly every video is about Elon. It's obsessive.

    And tbf, that's not the only ick around Thunderfoot. I mean, he did kinda get his start during the Anti-SJW culture war shit doing anti-femisist ragebait videos. Basically occupied the same spaces as Sargon, Bearing and GradeAunderA.... and he's never really "grown" out of that, or addressed it, let alone apologized for it. He harps on Elon, and sometimes Trump/AlexJones/StevenCrowder but he's never really talked about how he and his ilk helped bring them about.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    His latest video was exploring 'anti-baking soda' as a potential novel way to do CO2 capture at scale.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fvxNmStSC3M

    He also 'got his start' before Anti-SJW youtube was a thing. His first series that popped off, back in the day, the day being 2008ish, was "Why do People Laugh at Creationists?'.

    I don't know that he ever ... explicitly collabed with Sargon or any of those guys, but yeah he did exist in roughly the same genre-space, around the GamerGate era of i dunno, 2013 to 2015, ish?

    While he has covered Elon a lot, thats because he started calling bullshit on Elon's nonsense since way, way before that was common... he's been tooting his own horn a bit, following around 10 years of Elon's trolls telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about, and well, it turned out he did.

    He literally has a personal grudge against Elon Musk.

    For all his faults, he is one of the oldest, OG youtubers, since damn near day 1, who is also still around, and hasn't imploded.

    His first vid is 19+ years old, so, 2007ish, and its calling out GWB as a war mongering liar.

    All that being said, if you want a more recent youtube channel thats basically just mostly been tearing Musk to shreds, with science: Common Sense Skeptic.

    By 'more recent' I mean they've only been around for 5 or 6 years, I think.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    A surprising number of people do not understand how getting rich works. Literally anyone can do it. You simply need to do whatever everyone else refuses to do.

    You take on the risks. You debase yourself you compromise any and all ethics. You whore out for shareholders who will give you endless money to shield them from consequences they directly funded.

    It’s profitable because there is always demand for a new villain and damn near nobody wants to do it. For a good fucking reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    You seem to be mistakenly conflating getting rich with increasing wealth. Just about nobody gets rich. Many people leverage their existing wealth to gain more. Frequently, that exchange is the start of what is now defined as enshitification.

    Everyone cannot do it. Fundamentally its easy: Have money and pick something to middleman. Waste capital until you 'disrupt' that flow. ????. Maybe profit. Who the fuck cares? You got yours. Repeat.

    Simple: have wealth. Easy.

    Step one is have money to make money. Aside from being the result of two wealthy people fucking... care to detail how so many people are checking that box?

    Certainly - there ARE paths to wealth... but they are rare, risk heavy, and frequently are destined to be prey to a resource rich competitor.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    A lot of it has to do with over-promising and under-delivering. The rest is marketing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm hearing 'once you have money do.....'

    Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from? Pray, tell - what do they come for?

    Before that is even a factor you must either be first - with research and development ... and manufacturing... and distribution... or better. Or cheaper! Or able to undercut the competition.

    Of the things mentioned... I seem to be struggling to find the element lacking a substantial financial investment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from?

    They're not all gullible. A lot of VC types are obsessive gamblers, they'll throw money at anything that sounds like it might have a high return.

    Pray, tell - what do they come for?

    That's where the marketing comes in. Elon is pretty good at selling these big ideas, making them sound futuristic and world-changing. He not only sells those ideas to VCs, but also to the government. A lot of his businesses have pulled in substantial government contract money. The public rarely gets any return from those tax dollars.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    VC won't give you the time of day if you lack a product or platform. This isnt go-fund-me or r/wsb. VC appear to bet big but are frequently pretty well informed and diversified. Their big bets aren't much from their prospective... and frequently will be the first to squeeze "their due" from a failing venture.

    I dont see how Elon makes a good example for this. If anything it supports what I said:

    Elon is wealthy. He has a platform. He has shit he's bought and is reselling snake oil from those things. He's not poofing something from nothing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I used to be surprised at how stupid billionaires can be. But, then I remembered they don't actually do anything where they work, and the real employees run behind them and clean up their messes. When they stick their fingers in the works, they fuck it up, Cybertruck being one example.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Third generation curse.

    I personally believe the cybertruck was a designer who was making fun of musk. He submitted a pinewood derby car he made when he was 7.

    Its the literal emperors new clothes.

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  • [–] 133 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    So, I'm just checking..

    1. It is not open source?
    2. It uses AI to "Fact-Check"?
    3. It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?

    Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    2022: Come on, it's just 8$ it's basically the price of a coffee.

    2026: Come on, it's just 20$ it's basically the price of a coffee.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Literally every year since the internet was created: the dollar sign goes before the number, my dude.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Didn't know since we don't follow this convention where I'm from.

    Shrugs

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Every one of these symbols goes before the number: $€£¥₹

    Where are you from where it comes after? What currency do you use?

    The only time this comes after the number, that I am aware of, is when you use abbreviations like USD or EUR instead of the symbol.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Is it that relevant in this day and age? I was taught you put £ (or whatever currency you're using) first when you're writing so Johnny Fraudster can't turn your 100£ into 1100£.

    That all feels a bit immaterial on the web.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Yes, it’s relevant in this day and age, because it’s still incorrect to do it the other way (at least in English and with $£¥ and a couple others, as another commenter pointed out).

    When I read “20$” my first thought is that the person writing it didn’t pay attention in elementary school.

    And being lenient about it on the web leads to the behavior leaking into the real world on things like shop signs.

    Don’t even get me started on people who (mostly IRL) write things like “0.99¢” which makes me want to give them a cent and tell them to keep the change.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Now think about how much worse it is for every non-English western language! But good luck with your endeavour.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Thanks! Yeah I guess it might be hard for some people, but I speak some French and Spanish and it's not hard for me to remember to ¡use proper exclamation points in Spanish! or «use guillemets instead of quotation marks in French». This feels like the same sort of thing.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago

    The real power move here would be to grab the domain name and run a free Mastodon instance off of it.

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